Matt39 Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 Could there be a bigger mismatch in baseball? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted August 20, 2008 Author Share Posted August 20, 2008 Check that. Biggest mismatch in baseball: Burnett vs Arod. And thw "best player baseball" isnt coming up on top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 Maybe, but it was Johnny Damon who gave the game away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 Done. Finished. Over. When you piss away a great outing like this from Rasner, you aren't winning anything. And Zambrano takes the hill Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted August 20, 2008 Author Share Posted August 20, 2008 Maybe, but it was Johnny Damon who gave the game away. Damon made the back breaking error. But when your 4 and 5 hitters K 6 times you really have no shot. Arod and Giambi should not be batting 4th and 5th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 Damon made the back breaking error. But when your 4 and 5 hitters K 6 times you really have no shot. Arod and Giambi should not be batting 4th and 5th. No argument. They're all pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KudosForND Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 Damon made the back breaking error. But when your 4 and 5 hitters K 6 times you really have no shot. Arod and Giambi should not be batting 4th and 5th. very true arod sucked tonight badly and giambi always does arod cant do that after he call him self,abreu,giambi out matsui should be batting 5th now that he is back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted August 20, 2008 Author Share Posted August 20, 2008 very true arod sucked tonight badly and giambi always does arod cant do that after he call him self,abreu,giambi out matsui should be batting 5th now that he is back. Giambi is so bad its comical. And Arod cannot bat cleanup anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBrick Wall Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 Giambi is so bad its comical. And Arod cannot bat cleanup anymore. That statement is the only thing that's comical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anskyruben Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 That statement is the only thing that's comical. Your continuous defense of this pathetic collection of assbags is comical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn306 Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 The story with Yanks bats has been the same for the past 4-5 years. Beat up on the lesser pitchers and do nothing against the studs. It doesn't matter if it Verlander, Sabathia, Carmona, Beckett whoever. They are the bullies who when you punch them in mouth just go away quietly. The time has come for Cashman to get rid of guys like Giambi, Damon, Matsui, Abreu. You are not going to move Jeter. He won't move A-Rod or Posada. Cano should get another year to see if he takes his game to that level that we all think he should be at. You can't sit and gripe about the injuries. They lose Matsui the bring in Nady. They lose Posada, they bring in Pudge. They tried Sexson but he is a lost cause. The Yanks need to go out and find some hitters that won't wilt against a 95 mph fastball. This group, for whatever reason has not meshed well. It is time to go out and reshape this team. Shut down Joba and Wang for the rest of the year. Let Hughes audition is September and in the off season make the changes that need to be made. Bottom line is this lineup has done very little against the big pitcher in the big spot 4 straight years now. It HAS to be changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted August 20, 2008 Author Share Posted August 20, 2008 Your continuous defense of this pathetic collection of assbags is comical. BBBuuutttt his OPS is great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted August 20, 2008 Author Share Posted August 20, 2008 The story with Yanks bats has been the same for the past 4-5 years. Beat up on the lesser pitchers and do nothing against the studs. It doesn't matter if it Verlander, Sabathia, Carmona, Beckett whoever. They are the bullies who when you punch them in mouth just go away quietly. The time has come for Cashman to get rid of guys like Giambi, Damon, Matsui, Abreu. You are not going to move Jeter. He won't move A-Rod or Posada. Cano should get another year to see if he takes his game to that level that we all think he should be at. You can't sit and gripe about the injuries. They lose Matsui the bring in Nady. They lose Posada, they bring in Pudge. They tried Sexson but he is a lost cause. The Yanks need to go out and find some hitters that won't wilt against a 95 mph fastball. This group, for whatever reason has not meshed well. It is time to go out and reshape this team. Shut down Joba and Wang for the rest of the year. Let Hughes audition is September and in the off season make the changes that need to be made. Bottom line is this lineup has done very little against the big pitcher in the big spot 4 straight years now. It HAS to be changed. Arod against a power righty is a K 90% of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 Arod against a power righty is a K 90% of the time.Kinda bizarre they got rid of Soriano for him for the same exact reason. Quality pitchers get him out, he doesn't grind, and against better pitchers he gives away ABs. Cannot fault him for the Overbay play though. That was just an unbelievable play, from his knees, going the other way, throwing a strike to 2nd base. When a team is going bad like this, exactly what happens to them; new and interesting ways to fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBrick Wall Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 Arod against a power righty is a K 90% of the time. You're a moron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsMan57 Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 The season was over Friday night when in the 9th inning down 1 run they got 3 hits and 1 walk in the inning and didnt score a run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBrick Wall Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 Your continuous defense of this pathetic collection of assbags is comical. I'll be the first to say this team sucks, but A-Rod is still one of the best players in baseball and Giambi is still one of the best first basemen in baseball. ONe game doesn't change that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted August 20, 2008 Author Share Posted August 20, 2008 I'll be the first to say this team sucks, but A-Rod is still one of the best players in baseball and Giambi is still one of the best first basemen in baseball. ONe game doesn't change that. No sir, you are a moron. Giambi is awful defensively, cant run and cant drive the ball into the gaps. He's great at hitting solo home runs though. Giambi with RISP is an automatic out. And dont be confused- these are either K's or pop ups that dont advance runners. Ditto Alex. Arod and Giambi's inability to hit with RISP is the main reason why this offense sucks. Throw a power pitcher against either of those guys and its over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 I was one of Giambi's biggest fans He's done....sad to say it, but he's useless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterNorth09 Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 The story with Yanks bats has been the same for the past 4-5 years. Beat up on the lesser pitchers and do nothing against the studs. It doesn't matter if it Verlander, Sabathia, Carmona, Beckett whoever. They are the bullies who when you punch them in mouth just go away quietly. The time has come for Cashman to get rid of guys like Giambi, Damon, Matsui, Abreu. You are not going to move Jeter. He won't move A-Rod or Posada. Cano should get another year to see if he takes his game to that level that we all think he should be at. You can't sit and gripe about the injuries. They lose Matsui the bring in Nady. They lose Posada, they bring in Pudge. They tried Sexson but he is a lost cause. The Yanks need to go out and find some hitters that won't wilt against a 95 mph fastball. This group, for whatever reason has not meshed well. It is time to go out and reshape this team. Shut down Joba and Wang for the rest of the year. Let Hughes audition is September and in the off season make the changes that need to be made. Bottom line is this lineup has done very little against the big pitcher in the big spot 4 straight years now. It HAS to be changed. The problem is they can't even hit the scrub pitchers now. The pitching has been remarkably resilient even with the losses of Wang, Joba and Hughes and Kennedy being a disaster. Darrell Rasner pitched another f'n gem last night and got no run support. If Rasner got any run support he'd probably have 10-11 wins by now. He has proven himself to be a very capable 5th starter this year. The Yankees need to move A-Rod to the 3 spot and bring in a clutch power-hitter (Manny or Mark Texiera) to bat clean-up. Arod's BA this season with runners in scoring position is terrible (I'm pretty sure it's below .250) the man cannot continue to hit at the 4 spot next season. Use his BA and on base percentage to get more RBI chances for Texiera or Manny. Giambi is also having a sub-par season. He has to go. The Yankees have $80 mil coming off the books so they'll have a ton of money to spend in free agency. Buy Sabathia, Texiera or Manny, resign Mussina AND Pettite. Next year's team: 1: Damon (LF) 2: Jeter (2B) 3: Arod (3B) 4: Texiera (1B) 5: Nady (RF) 6: Matsui (DH) 7: Posada © 8: Cano 9: Brett Gardner SP: Wang SP: Sabathia (or Sheets) SP: Mussina SP: Joba SP: Pettite Mariano closing with Veras and Marte setting him up and Rasner and Geise in for long relief. That team is going to be a beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBrick Wall Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 No sir, you are a moron. Giambi is awful defensively, cant run and cant drive the ball into the gaps. He's great at hitting solo home runs though. Giambi with RISP is an automatic out. And dont be confused- these are either K's or pop ups that dont advance runners. Ditto Alex. Arod and Giambi's inability to hit with RISP is the main reason why this offense sucks. Throw a power pitcher against either of those guys and its over. About the only thing true in this post is that Giambi can't run. Congrats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted August 20, 2008 Author Share Posted August 20, 2008 About the only thing true in this post is that Giambi can't run. Congrats. Considering everyone on this forum agrees with me, you're the one looking like an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBrick Wall Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 Considering everyone on this forum agrees with me, you're the one looking like an idiot. Another spectacular argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted August 20, 2008 Author Share Posted August 20, 2008 Another spectacular argument. You have yet to put forth any argument. Please eplain how Giambi provides any value to this team. He cant drive the ball anymore, he cant hit with RISP and gets killed by good pitching. Add in the fact his subpar defensively and slow. Do you even watch the games? How someone could be PRO Giambi at this point is mind boggling. Even his biggest fan, Jon just called him finished. Watch the games, Giambi still hitting in the 5 hole is embarrassing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn306 Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 The problem is they can't even hit the scrub pitchers now. The pitching has been remarkably resilient even with the losses of Wang, Joba and Hughes and Kennedy being a disaster. Darrell Rasner pitched another f'n gem last night and got no run support. If Rasner got any run support he'd probably have 10-11 wins by now. He has proven himself to be a very capable 5th starter this year. The Yankees need to move A-Rod to the 3 spot and bring in a clutch power-hitter (Manny or Mark Texiera) to bat clean-up. Arod's BA this season with runners in scoring position is terrible (I'm pretty sure it's below .250) the man cannot continue to hit at the 4 spot next season. Use his BA and on base percentage to get more RBI chances for Texiera or Manny. Giambi is also having a sub-par season. He has to go. The Yankees have $80 mil coming off the books so they'll have a ton of money to spend in free agency. Buy Sabathia, Texiera or Manny, resign Mussina AND Pettite. Next year's team: 1: Damon (LF) 2: Jeter (2B) 3: Arod (3B) 4: Texiera (1B) 5: Nady (RF) 6: Matsui (DH) 7: Posada © 8: Cano 9: Brett Gardner SP: Wang SP: Sabathia (or Sheets) SP: Mussina SP: Joba SP: Pettite Mariano closing with Veras and Marte setting him up and Rasner and Geise in for long relief. That team is going to be a beast. I agree with alot of that. My feeling on Matsui is that he is getting older now, missed most of the 06 season and this season so it is probably time cut bait on him. Damon while still a very capable hitter apparently doesn't like to bunt (See Saturday's game against the Royals) and has an arm that makes Pennington's look like John Elway. Texiera will be really intersting because I think the Angels are going to do everything in their power to re-sign him. They are not afraid to throw money so I would be surprised if didn't resign with them. Manny, as much as I hate to say would probably be a great fit in the Yankee lineup because he is just so oblivious to the things around him. The question is can the Yankees or even us the fans be able to put up with the nonsense that he puts teams through. The off season is going to be very interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBrick Wall Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 You have yet to put forth any argument. Please eplain how Giambi provides any value to this team. He cant drive the ball anymore, he cant hit with RISP and gets killed by good pitching. Add in the fact his subpar defensively and slow. Do you even watch the games? How someone could be PRO Giambi at this point is mind boggling. Even his biggest fan, Jon just called him finished. Watch the games, Giambi still hitting in the 5 hole is embarrassing. In the last three years before this one Giambi is hitting .283 with a .467 OBP w/RISP. Which season looks like the fluke? Both he and A-Rod also have a high OBP w/RISP, which suggests they are not getting good pitches to hit and/or pitchers are pitching around them. I would love to see Teixeira in pinstripes but signing Giambi for another year or two would be far from the worst thing in the world. He still is putting up nearly a .400 OBP and a .900 OPS at this stage in his career. He is FAR from the Yankees biggest problem, which would be their centerfielder for 2/3 of the year, Cano, Jeter, and Abreu's struggles, and injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted August 20, 2008 Author Share Posted August 20, 2008 We need Manny. The Yankees problem hasnt been getting on base. Its driving in runners. Our 4 and 5 hitters have been awful at this. Manny will hit regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted August 20, 2008 Author Share Posted August 20, 2008 In the last three years before this one Giambi is hitting .283 with a .467 OBP w/RISP. Which season looks like the fluke? Both he and A-Rod also have a high OBP w/RISP, which suggests they are not getting good pitches to hit and/or pitchers are pitching around them. I would love to see Teixeira in pinstripes but signing Giambi for another year or two would be far from the worst thing in the world. He still is putting up nearly a .400 OBP and a .900 OPS at this stage in his career. He is FAR from the Yankees biggest problem, which would be their centerfielder for 2/3 of the year, Cano, Jeter, and Abreu's struggles, and injuries. Resign Giambi????? LOL Log off. Please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted August 20, 2008 Author Share Posted August 20, 2008 In the last three years before this one Giambi is hitting .283 with a .467 OBP w/RISP. Which season looks like the fluke? Both he and A-Rod also have a high OBP w/RISP, which suggests they are not getting good pitches to hit and/or pitchers are pitching around them. I would love to see Teixeira in pinstripes but signing Giambi for another year or two would be far from the worst thing in the world. He still is putting up nearly a .400 OBP and a .900 OPS at this stage in his career. He is FAR from the Yankees biggest problem, which would be their centerfielder for 2/3 of the year, Cano, Jeter, and Abreu's struggles, and injuries. And Abreu is our best hitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clueless Joe Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 All I know is that it's not my fault. I hate to lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 No sir, you are a moron. Giambi is awful defensively, cant run and cant drive the ball into the gaps. He's great at hitting solo home runs though. Giambi with RISP is an automatic out. And dont be confused- these are either K's or pop ups that dont advance runners. Ditto Alex. Arod and Giambi's inability to hit with RISP is the main reason why this offense sucks. Throw a power pitcher against either of those guys and its over. Truth. Giambi cant turn on anybodys fastball, at this point. What do we do with Abreu for next year? He's too streaky IMO, but he's been solid in the clutch this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBrick Wall Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 And Abreu is our best hitter He's declining, but don't let the facts get in the way of your eyes. Attention everyone: don't disagree with Matt39. He has eyes. He watches the games. His eyes are infallible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 This thread is deja vu all over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 That statement is the only thing that's comical. I found this post pretty funny. Nice job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 I hate to say it, but I too think Abreu aka Mr. Softee is our best player May have to resign him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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