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I was on my way home from work today, and hosts of a radio talk show here in the Midwest were saying the Jets lack offensive weapons, have no coherent defensive unit, and won't likely do better than 8-8 this year. Is that how all of you see it? Media coverage of the Jets hasn't been espedcially plentiful in my area, and I can only hope the perspective of these talking heads smply isn't an accurate one.

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The Jets do not have superior offensive talent by any stretch of the imagination, but look no further than the Giants game...

Sure, the two big plays were called back on penalties, but if you watched them, Favre used these weapons to make big plays. The penalties themselves were not related to the outcome at all.

As far as the defense goes, look at the early returns from the additions this year. Kris Jenkins makes them bigger and stronger up front... Pace is having a solid offseason and providing good pressure. The ends are mediocre and #2 safety and #2 CB are an issue... but overall, this defense should get to the QB and cause some turnovers.

We're not an elite team, but we should be in the hunt with Favre.

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If the Jets were not wrongfully penalized this game, then the score would have been different. Hell, the Jets would have blew out the Giants. Lets say the Jets score a field goal on that one Brad Smith catch that was called back, and of course the Cotchery touchdown that was called back.

Jets would win 20-7. 10 of those points scored against one of the best defenses by the starting offense.

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Don't worry about the defense L2B. They have a STUD at each level with NT Kris Jenkins, ILB David Harris, and SS Kerry Rhodes. When I say stud I mean legitimate pro-bowl starter.

Plus to add in, there are other possible candidates with Calvin Pace and Darrelle Revis. The question mark comes on whether this offense can gel in time.

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If the Jets were not wrongfully penalized this game, then the score would have been different. Hell, the Jets would have blew out the Giants. Lets say the Jets score a field goal on that one Brad Smith catch that was called back, and of course the Cotchery touchdown that was called back.

Jets would win 20-7. 10 of those points scored against one of the best defenses by the starting offense.

They were not wrongfully penalized... The penalties were the correct calls, the just didn't have an affect on the outcome of the plays...

Poor discipline.

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this is another misnomer by football idiots. you don't need a Terrel Owens or an Antonio Gates to win a super bowl.

good teams win just as this, as a team.

what you need to win is a Quarterback, now the jets have one, they had one in chad, he was just lacking in big play capability (not a shot just a fact)

Jerricho Cotchery is a superbly talented wideout who hasn't even hit his prime, he's also become Favre's favorite target. Coles is still a tough as nails wideout, who will fight for every ball thrown his way. Brad smith is starting to improve.

When david clowney returns probably after the bye big play capability is a factor. Chris baker is a solid option when they need to make a crucial first down or a goal line TD. and dustin keller will create mismatch problems for linebackers and safeties causing defenses to respect the pass in running situations.

to say the Jets have no offensive talent is assinine. they aren't flashy, but they show up, do their job, and can score points.

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this is another misnomer by football idiots. you don't need a Terrel Owens or an Antonio Gates to win a super bowl.

good teams win just as this, as a team.

What do,

Terrell Owens

Chad Johnson

Roy Williams

Randy Moss

Larry Fitzgerald

Anquon Boldin

Braylon Edwards

Steve Smith

All share in common?

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The Jets do not have superior offensive talent by any stretch of the imagination, but look no further than the Giants game...

Sure, the two big plays were called back on penalties, but if you watched them, Favre used these weapons to make big plays. The penalties themselves were not related to the outcome at all.

As far as the defense goes, look at the early returns from the additions this year. Kris Jenkins makes them bigger and stronger up front... Pace is having a solid offseason and providing good pressure. The ends are mediocre and #2 safety and #2 CB are an issue... but overall, this defense should get to the QB and cause some turnovers.

We're not an elite team, but we should be in the hunt with Favre.

Agree completely. If there was rep I would give you some but no can do.;-)

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If the Jets were not wrongfully penalized this game, then the score would have been different. Hell, the Jets would have blew out the Giants. Lets say the Jets score a field goal on that one Brad Smith catch that was called back, and of course the Cotchery touchdown that was called back.

Jets would win 20-7. 10 of those points scored against one of the best defenses by the starting offense.

WRONGLY PENALIZED!? Both penalties were CLEAR and OBVIOUS. On Smith's catch, the WRs never set. Sorry, but 2 guys can't be in motion. On the Cotchery TD, Franks came off the line and left the tackle uncovered. Probably not Franks' fault, but still a penalty.

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I was on my way home from work today, and hosts of a radio talk show here in the Midwest were saying the Jets lack offensive weapons, have no coherent defensive unit, and won't likely do better than 8-8 this year. Is that how all of you see it? Media coverage of the Jets hasn't been espedcially plentiful in my area, and I can only hope the perspective of these talking heads smply isn't an accurate one.

I think they will be better than 8-8 because their schedule is not that strong.

If they do better than that it will be because their defense has stepped up.

One thing you will learn about this team is that since the arrival of the Devil in 2001 (Herm Edwards), the Jets have been a horrendous run defense the first say 6-7 weeks of the season. If they have that fixed (and I think they might this year) then they will be very good.

On the offensive side of the ball, it will come down to the OL. If the can dominate then they should be able to run ball and take some shots down the field. If they struggle then we are looking at last year all over again cause Favre is going to spend alot of time on his back.

On paper the Jets have made alot of improvements from last years 4-12 debacle. Now they have to show it on the field.

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...hosts of a radio talk show here in the Midwest were saying the Jets lack offensive weapons, have no coherent defensive unit, and won't likely do better than 8-8 this year.

Not a lot of glitz beyond your ex-QB, but the Jets have two proven 1000 yard WR's in Coles and Cotchery, and Thomas Jones ran for 1100 yards behind one of the worst OL's in football last year. They've upgraded the starting OL, added a first round TE in Dustin Keller who looks like he'll be making a lot of plays as a rookie, and have vowed to get RB Leon Washington more involved in the offense - a player who ran back three KO's for TD's last year.

Defensively, they've added a few key players. I can't say whether they're coherent at this point or not, but the pieces are there. Stopping the run has long been a problem for the Jets, but 360lb Kris Jenkins oughta help there. Getting to the QB has also been an issue, which is why they've been stock-piling OLB/DE hybrids designed to specifically get after the passer. I think the biggest problem remains the coordinator. The Jets dee has played well after the bye in both of Mangini's seasons here, and the good news for the Jets is that the bye comes early this year.

I thought they looked like an 8-9 win team before they brought in your boy. It's up to him to get them over that hump, IMHO.

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It's real simple. Compare the 2006 Jets with the current team. The Jets have significantly upgraded many positions with few if any downgrades (maybe Ellis and Coles are older and slowing down a little?)

Meanwhile, the schedule this year is as easy or easier than 2006.

The 2006 team went 10-6 with a rookie HC and OC.

Yeah, 8-8 sounds about right. :rolleyes: duh ....

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The Jets do not have superior offensive talent by any stretch of the imagination, but look no further than the Giants game...

Sure, the two big plays were called back on penalties, but if you watched them, Favre used these weapons to make big plays. The penalties themselves were not related to the outcome at all.

As far as the defense goes, look at the early returns from the additions this year. Kris Jenkins makes them bigger and stronger up front... Pace is having a solid offseason and providing good pressure. The ends are mediocre and #2 safety and #2 CB are an issue... but overall, this defense should get to the QB and cause some turnovers.

We're not an elite team, but we should be in the hunt with Favre.

I agree with this. BUT -- I think the defense has the potential to change things up a bit. If they can get to the QB like I think they can, everything steps up a level.

The Giants proved it last year, harass the QB and expectations can change in a hurry.

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I was on my way home from work today, and hosts of a radio talk show here in the Midwest were saying the Jets lack offensive weapons, have no coherent defensive unit, and won't likely do better than 8-8 this year. Is that how all of you see it? Media coverage of the Jets hasn't been espedcially plentiful in my area, and I can only hope the perspective of these talking heads smply isn't an accurate one.

our offensive weapons are what i like to think of as sleepers. they're much more than serviceable, but they're not elite, household names. a position of concern pre-draft, was depth at wideout. here we are at the end of summer with an embarrassment of riches. clowney, before he went down, was a sure threat to chansi stuckey and brad smith for the 3rd WR spot. the stuckey/smith comp. has been hotly contested this summer as well. what your local "pundits" neglect to realize are all of the jet WRs are YAC-types, which is a staple for a west coast offense, which is what favre ran out in GB, which is part of the offensive philosophy OC, brian schottenheimer has brought to the jets. with a rebuilt O-line and the upgrade at QB - if favre can really abosorb the playbook - the offense is of little concern to me. some might mention the running game, or lack thereof, to that i say this is PS, everything is vanilla.

that said, i will be looking for the defense to really step it up when the season opens. the problem is, our first two games are against QBs who have practiced against our D for at least 3 seasons (brady and pennington, who signed with miami, which just installed the 3-4). the giant game was quite telling because there is a bit more on the line for the two NY reps. they showed a little of what was possible. they'll be good this year and, barring injury, great next season; maybe even elite. we've got a lot of young talent, with experience in positions at this D's foundation: the DL. the 3-4 may be all about the linebackers, but they'll do nothing if that line isn't at least serviceably stout. offense or defense it's always about them lines and our DL looks very serviceable, a surefire benefit for our LB corps. and they're no slouches themselves. they're big, fast, strong and young, but not inexperienced and better yet they tackle "through" the target. in short, they're perfect 3-4 guys. david harris will be a household name; calvin pace should surprise; and gholston, when he learns the position, will be a monster. the pressure the front seven should be able to generate should also ease things for the secondary and again we have good, young, but not inexperienced talent there. kerry rhodes has been playing at a probowl level for the past 2 years and this is only his 4th season; darelle revis has proven why the jets traded up for him, as he faced the no. 1 WR on every team the jets played last year and more than held his own; and rookie CB dwight lowery is poised to continue the "fantastic four" trend (rhodes and offensive weapon, leon washington were both selected in the 4th round and have made significant contributions; veritable diamonds in the rough).

all this whets the optimistic whistles of many a jet fan, but they're still in the process of putting it all together. chemistry is of extreme import and i don't believe we're completely there yet. however, that is not to say they won't be able to find their rhythm as the season progresses. and as the giants showed last year and many others before them, "it ain't how ya start, it's how ya finish!" 8-8 is quite possible and if that's how it ends up, trust that it'll be a good 8-8; meaning decisive wins against the teams we're supposed to beat and "we were in it 'til the end' losses to teams we presumably have no chance against. but i wouldn't be surprised to see them go 10-7 and slip into the playoffs. so, i hope i've been able to enlighten you to your unfounded fears; we'll be good this year, maybe even better than that, but we will be great next year.

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Thanks for that thoughtful essay (and thanks to everyone else who responded). The pundits here don't know the Jets especially well, but they're sure talking as if they do. they've painted a truly bleak picture for the Jets (some of these loudmouths have made it sound like the Jets would be lucky to win 3 or 4 games this year). I greatly appreciate your perspective, and you've made me feel much better about things.

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