Aten Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Ham lost his mind, no question. But this "viva la revolucion" mentality is petty, immature, moronic, and completely counter-productive. People thought they were more important than they are. It's not that people thought they were more important than they are, it's that JI thought it was more important than it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsrule128 Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 man this is crazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Division Marduk Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 man this reminds me of when realityinsiders.com died and realitytvlounge.com was born now realityinsiders is a porn site and i am a mod at realitytvlounge ok m ur point is.......? He wants JI to turn into a Kaysar porn site? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleDown Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Ham lost his mind, no question. But this "viva la revolucion" mentality is petty, immature, moronic, and completely counter-productive. People thought they were more important than they are. I agree to an extent, but if there is a market out there, and you have the ability to take your "business" elsewhere, then you do it when you are displeased with management. Ham's behavior was unacceptable, and Sooth's handling of the situation and attitude toward long time posters who were a large part in driving the site to its success were pathetic and discouraging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauliec Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 It's not that people thought they were more important than they are, it's that JI thought it was more important than it is. JI is nothing. What makes it great is the community, what its success hinges on is the community. I know that, you know that, and everyone knows that, which is why I'm able to ignore some of the more bone-headed moves from the administration. But when integral members of the community lash out, then everyone suffers. I still cannot comprehend the idea of an internet ego. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Important? It's a ****ing message board. Get over yourselves already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladyJET2280 Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Important? It's a ****ing message board. Get over yourselves already. you are in a potty mouth mode today arent ya? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyHector Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Once I read that Klecko was threatening legal action if his likeness is used on JI, I knew I had to sign up over here to enjoy further AKF hilarity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 No I can't ban anyone. So now you can all tell me what you really think of me. And I can't send you threatening PMs or anything. I just have to take the abuse and admit I have a small penis and try to make up for it by being an internet tough guy. Here I liked you all along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyHector Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 I think Paulie's real motivation is that he can't bear to leave behind his 27k post count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 you are in a potty mouth mode today arent ya? What the ****? You weren't aware that I'm a big fan of profanity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Stop stirring the pot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Once I read that Klecko was threatening legal action if his likeness is used on JI, I knew I had to sign up over here to enjoy further AKF hilarity. Lol.. I'm here for teh AKF... and the Ribs.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladyJET2280 Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 What the ****? You weren't aware that I'm a big fan of profanity? nah its the first time I am blinded by the **** lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauliec Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 I think Paulie's real motivation is that he can't bear to leave behind his 27k post count. There's no way I want to split my time between two forums. It's bad enough I'm on one already. We had a good thing going on at JI, and the virtual egos ruined it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruby2 Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 There's no way I want to split my time between two forums. It's bad enough I'm on one already. We had a good thing going on at JI, and the virtual egos ruined it all. Seriously. I already have no life. Now I have to balance between 2 Jets boards. O god, not good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Bravo Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 There's no way I want to split my time between two forums. It's bad enough I'm on one already. We had a good thing going on at JI, and the virtual egos ruined it all. Sooth ruined it for all of us. He would rather lose 75 members than punish his friend GJ&H. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 I'm going to take this up as a serious offer. You completely abused your power as a mod at JI. Making you mod was probably the biggest mistake Sooth ever made, in a long list of mistakes running that site. You banned people because of BS vendettas, you loved internetz drama, and you were all around bully. A complete shocker, because you were one of my all time favorite posters. You completely changed when you became a mod. I also don't believe that all the mods badmouthed Jets Babe in the mod forum. I wouldn't doubt that you lied about that to fire her up and join your bull**** revolution. This whole thing is immensely stupid, and I blame you and EY completely. Virtual ego to that max. Jesus, go out and get laid or something. Then stay at JI. Sooth made it clear that posters are not valued, and the site will go on. I did not ask one single person to come here, but am I unhappy about how it transpired, absolutely not. And if you want to compartmentalize, where does your ****-fit with Tx fit in the world of BS internetz drama? You're no better. But really, I post at JetNation now, I have my reasons, and they're merited. Other people seem to be doing the same, and I'm glad to have them around. You can stay on JI, it's fine, really it is. But don't begrudge those who left for their own reasons, most of them good reasons, or else you're just telling me that Klecko and I are the kings of the internet and everyone will do what we say without a reason. I really don't think that's the case. JI has plenty of posters, and as Sooth says, the site will go on. Enjoy it... I'll be here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aten Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 JI is nothing. What makes it great is the community, what its success hinges on is the community. I know that, you know that, and everyone knows that, which is why I'm able to ignore some of the more bone-headed moves from the administration. But when integral members of the community lash out, then everyone suffers. I still cannot comprehend the idea of an internet ego. SAR fills the entire front page with OT threads. A mod tells him to knock it off. He doesn't. The mod bans him. Sooth overrules the mod, lifts the ban, and says it's okay for certain posters to spam. I post 'Free Yellin' as spalin@alaska.gov one time in response to one of Ham's blog entries. I am banned indefinitely. The mods all confer and decide this is an appropriate resolution. Sure, JI is all about the community. I think I just have a different community in mind than you and Ham and Sooth do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 There's no way I want to split my time between two forums. It's bad enough I'm on one already. We had a good thing going on at JI, and the virtual egos ruined it all. Can't disagree with this.. I don't know what's going to happen in the future, and I'll still post over at JI in the politics forum, but the bottom-line is that lines appeared to be drawn between Ey/Kleck and Ham. I saw the whole meltdown that started this, and while EY did ask to be banned (literally), Ham was completely at fault imo. The threats of physical violence that followed, along with an apparent him or me mentality between Ham and Kleck meant a nasty divorce was coming unless Sooth was able to soothe things over. Apparently he sided with Ham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 nah its the first time I am blinded by the **** lol Your first time?!?! Joe, you lied to me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aten Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Then stay at JI. He's campaigning for mod. I'm sure they're all duly impressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 SAR fills the entire front page with OT threads. A mod tells him to knock it off. He doesn't. The mod bans him. Sooth overrules the mod, lifts the ban, and says it's okay for certain posters to spam. I post 'Free Yellin' as spalin@alaska.gov one time in response to one of Ham's blog entries. I am banned indefinitely. The mods all confer and decide this is an appropriate resolution. Sure, JI is all about the community. I think I just have a different community in mind than you and Ham and Sooth do. Is that what got you banned? Lol.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladyJET2280 Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Your first time?!?! Joe, you lied to me! there is a first for everything...uh huh and what did JOe say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 He's campaigning for mod. I'm sure they're all duly impressed. Tell the ****sucker if he can actually deliver a JetsInsider magnet I'll defect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauliec Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Then stay at JI. Sooth made it clear that posters are not valued, and the site will go on. I did not ask one single person to come here, but am I unhappy about how it transpired, absolutely not. And if you want to compartmentalize, where does your ****-fit with Tx fit in the world of BS internetz drama? You're no better. But really, I post at JetNation now, I have my reasons, and they're merited. Other people seem to be doing the same, and I'm glad to have them around. You can stay on JI, it's fine, really it is. But don't begrudge those who left for their own reasons, most of them good reasons, or else you're just telling me that Klecko and I are the kings of the internet and everyone will do what we say without a reason. I really don't think that's the case. JI has plenty of posters, and as Sooth says, the site will go on. Enjoy it... I'll be here. First of all, my beef with TX transpired because of his massive ego. He thought he could do whatever he want and got away with it because he was buddy-buddy with Sooth. TX's classic excuse was, "I've been here since 2003, who the hell are you?" -- and Sooth agreed with him. Same exact situation as Ham. It's bull****, all the way around. Your intention was to break JI. You had a vendetta, and you wanted to rise victorious. You wanted to win. Don't deny it; don't play innocent. At least man up and admit that you're in your glory right now. Such ****ing nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladyJET2280 Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 First of all, my beef with TX transpired because of his massive ego. He thought he could do whatever he want and got away with it because he was buddy-buddy with Sooth. TX's classic excuse was, "I've been here since 2003, who the hell are you?" -- and Sooth agreed with him. Same exact situation as Ham. It's bull****, all the way around. Your intention was to break JI. You had a vendetta, and you wanted to rise victorious. You wanted to win. Don't deny it; don't play innocent. At least man up and admit that you're in your glory right now. Such ****ing nonsense. Sounds like everyone needs to go on Dr. Phil and express how they feel... Just kidding but honestly , Shouldnt this be argued on JI or in Pm mode.... Just saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauliec Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Can't disagree with this.. I don't know what's going to happen in the future, and I'll still post over at JI in the politics forum, but the bottom-line is that lines appeared to be drawn between Ey/Kleck and Ham. I saw the whole meltdown that started this, and while EY did ask to be banned (literally), Ham was completely at fault imo. The threats of physical violence that followed, along with an apparent him or me mentality between Ham and Kleck meant a nasty divorce was coming unless Sooth was able to soothe things over. Apparently he sided with Ham. You're right, everyone is at fault. It's just a shame it had to escalate to such a boiling point. Insanity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 First of all, my beef with TX transpired because of his massive ego. He thought he could do whatever he want and got away with it because he was buddy-buddy with Sooth. TX's classic excuse was, "I've been here since 2003, who the hell are you?" -- and Sooth agreed with him. Same exact situation as Ham. It's bull****, all the way around. Your intention was to break JI. You had a vendetta, and you wanted to rise victorious. You wanted to win. Don't deny it; don't play innocent. At least man up and admit that you're in your glory right now. Such ****ing nonsense. Paulie- I'm not defending EY, he's more then capable of doing that. But like you mentioned The TX stuff, the Pennington stuff, then all this Hammer stuff, it all reeks of Sooth taking care of his agenda and that always irked me. I know I'm not a legend like yourself over there but I tried making quality posts, and truthfully the environment became so toxic people cared more about the stupid posts and petty arguments that it became intolerable IMO. Seeing Klecks thread was the last reason I needed. Sometimes it's more then just the egos bro, for me it's about the principal of the matter which is you have a site run by a "brotherhood" of internet ego's, and the dictate who has free reign and who doesn't. I respect you, always have and I hope that perhaps you will split your time, if not I do hope they make you a mod and you can conduct yourself in a fashion that is outside of some of the others over there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aten Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Is that what got you banned? Lol.. Yes. Perm. For that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borgoguy Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Am I the only one that is not buying this whole JN/JI fiasco? Guaranteed, this is a scam. Look how beautifully it played out, with the anticipated escalation in post counts for both sites. Nice job Soothie and Max. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor99 Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Am I the only one that is not buying this whole JN/JI fiasco? Guaranteed, this is a scam. Look how beautifully it played out, with the anticipated escalation in post counts for both sites. Nice job Soothie and Max. It's actually the Illuminati and the New World Order behind the whole thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyHector Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 I tried making quality posts You need to try harder. Consider this forum a clean slate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borgoguy Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 It's actually the Illuminati and the New World Order behind the whole thing. Bravo, ragazzo. We will clear Sacco and Vanzetti yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Babe Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Paulie- I'm not defending EY, he's more then capable of doing that. But like you mentioned The TX stuff, the Pennington stuff, then all this Hammer stuff, it all reeks of Sooth taking care of his agenda and that always irked me. I know I'm not a legend like yourself over there but I tried making quality posts, and truthfully the environment became so toxic people cared more about the stupid posts and petty arguments that it became intolerable IMO. Seeing Klecks thread was the last reason I needed. Sometimes it's more then just the egos bro, for me it's about the principal of the matter which is you have a site run by a "brotherhood" of internet ego's, and the dictate who has free reign and who doesn't. I respect you, always have and I hope that perhaps you will split your time, if not I do hope they make you a mod and you can conduct yourself in a fashion that is outside of some of the others over there. What he said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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