afosomf Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Watch out for terrence cody out of Bama, he is a jenkins clone and will be a top 5 pick by end of year. Bradford, Stafford would be tough to pass up in top 10 By Todd McShay Scouts Inc. (Archive) rich - Subscriber since 02/01/2005Updated: October 24, 2008 Comment Email Print College football is well past the midpoint while the NFL is just about there, so we're starting to get a feel for the needs of NFL teams and what college players could step in and help out immediately. With that in mind, here's a look at how the top 10 of the 2009 NFL draft would look right now. Note that this list includes draft-eligible players (denoted by asterisks), so there is a chance some of these players could return to school. Also, to determine the top 10 draft order, we looked at strength of schedule to break any ties in team records. 1. Cincinnati Bengals (Record: 0-7) -- Andre Smith*, OT, Alabama Drafting a running back with the first overall pick is risky business, which is why the Bengals would pass on Ohio State RB Chris Wells here, assuming Wells comes out. Cincinnati needs help in the trenches on both sides of the ball, and Smith appears to be a franchise-type left tackle prospect. The 6-foot-5, 350-pound junior displays good initial quickness and overwhelming strength. 2. Detroit Lions (0-6) -- Sam Bradford*, QB, Oklahoma It's unlikely Bradford will leave school after his redshirt sophomore season, but he is eligible to do so, and I would select Bradford over any quarterback in the country right now. He receives high marks in all the skill sets important to evaluating a quarterback, including mental capacity, toughness, intangibles, leadership, accuracy, release quickness, footwork and arm strength. 3. Kansas City Chiefs (1-5) -- Matthew Stafford*, QB, Georgia Whether it's the upcoming NFL draft or in 2010, Stafford will be a tough prospect to evaluate. He makes some incredibly difficult throws and appears to have all the tools necessary to succeed at the next level, yet his inconsistent decision-making and occasional loss of the strike zone are troubling when breaking him down. 4. Seattle Seahawks (1-5) -- Michael Crabtree*, WR, Texas Tech No wide receivers were drafted in the first round of the '08 draft, let alone in the top five picks. Crabtree and his physical gifts are special, though. And if any team is in a position to risk a high pick on Crabtree, it's the Seahawks, whose wide-receiving corps has been decimated by injuries this season. 5. San Francisco 49ers (2-5) -- Vontae Davis*, CB, Illinois The 49ers need secondary help and Davis is the best cover corner college football has to offer right now. He would offer an immediate boost to San Francisco's defense. 6. Miami Dolphins (2-4) -- Malcolm Jenkins, CB, Ohio State Ohio State might not be faring as well as Jenkins hoped when deciding to return to Columbus, but his individual effort as a senior has exceeded expectations. Jenkins is not quite as fluid as Davis, but his versatility and playmaking skills will be attractive to teams drafting in the top half of the first round. 7. Houston Texans (2-4) -- Michael Johnson, DE, Georgia Tech Johnson's production continues to come up short in comparison to exceptional raw talent. Still, it will not be surprising if he lands a spot in the top half of the first round on pure potential alone. Houston has other positional needs to fill, but it won't shy away from drafting another defensive lineman in the first round, especially a speed-rushing end like Johnson to play opposite Mario Williams. 8. Oakland Raiders (2-4) -- Eugene Monroe, OT, Virginia The Raiders have several holes to plug, especially at the wide receiver position. But if Crabtree is gone, Al Davis and the brain trust would be wise to select the best available offensive lineman to protect their investment in QB JaMarcus Russell. 9. St. Louis Rams (2-4) -- Michael Oher, OT, Mississippi LOT Orlando Pace has been riddled by injuries the past two seasons and ROT Alex Barron has failed to live up to expectations as a first-round pick. So it's safe to say the Rams will be in the market for offensive line help early in next year's draft. Oher is a possibility, but he needs to prove he's agile enough to play on the left side in the NFL. 10. Cleveland Browns -- Brian Orakpo, DE/OLB, Texas Wells would be a fan-base pleaser, but it's tough to pull the trigger this high in the draft on a running back with some durability concerns. Instead, Cleveland could take advantage of what projects to be a strong defensive line group by adding a pass-rusher to play opposite Kamerion Wimbley; this is the wiser personnel choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonehands Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Sam Bradford number 2? Please. He has got a lot of learning to do before he is a pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Get me Beanie Wells or Ray Maualuga PLEASE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hofstra Jet Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 vontae and vernon together again.. they are related Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted October 24, 2008 Author Share Posted October 24, 2008 Get me Beanie Wells or Ray Maualuga PLEASE! ain't gonna get Beanie going 8-8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 why do they even bother with these before week 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Blackout Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Some people don't need to wait until there is a winner to discuss things. the list of 10 teams will change why bother speculating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Blackout Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Right. Wait until game 3 of the finals. "the finals" is this the NBA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Thai Jet Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Watch out for terrence cody out of Bama, he is a jenkins clone and will be a top 5 pick by end of year. Bradford, Stafford would be tough to pass up in top 10 By Todd McShay Scouts Inc. (Archive) rich - Subscriber since 02/01/2005Updated: October 24, 2008 Comment Email Print College football is well past the midpoint while the NFL is just about there, so we're starting to get a feel for the needs of NFL teams and what college players could step in and help out immediately. With that in mind, here's a look at how the top 10 of the 2009 NFL draft would look right now. Note that this list includes draft-eligible players (denoted by asterisks), so there is a chance some of these players could return to school. Also, to determine the top 10 draft order, we looked at strength of schedule to break any ties in team records. 1. Cincinnati Bengals (Record: 0-7) -- Andre Smith*, OT, Alabama Drafting a running back with the first overall pick is risky business, which is why the Bengals would pass on Ohio State RB Chris Wells here, assuming Wells comes out. Cincinnati needs help in the trenches on both sides of the ball, and Smith appears to be a franchise-type left tackle prospect. The 6-foot-5, 350-pound junior displays good initial quickness and overwhelming strength. I'm prayin Andre stays at Bama for his senior year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 The list of 10 NBA teams you'll support this season? no, the list of jackass d-bag posters who are on my Ignore list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 The list of 10 NBA teams you'll support this season? :rl: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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#27TheDominator Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Looks like Irish made the list. You can quote people on ignore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Blackout Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Why am I not in the list? because then I can't give you custody rights on weekends Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 The list of 10 NBA teams you'll support this season? :rl: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Wasn't he a Cavs fan last year before the Celtics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 Terrence Cody is a beast and he is already experienced in the 3-4.......I hope his knee is OK. I heard it was just a sprain and he's only out 2 weeks, but it looked bad during the Ole Miss game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted October 25, 2008 Author Share Posted October 25, 2008 Terrence Cody is a beast and he is already experienced in the 3-4.......I hope his knee is OK. I heard it was just a sprain and he's only out 2 weeks, but it looked bad during the Ole Miss game. suppose to be back for LSU game this kid is most popular player in Alabama will be a monster in NFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 suppose to be back for LSU game this kid is most popular player in Alabama will be a monster in NFL That he will. I've love to see him stay put in Tuscaloosa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 suppose to be back for LSU game this kid is most popular player in Alabama will be a monster in NFL Ya if you can get the kid in shape and teach him anything about technique. The hype that surrounds this kid is both deserved and not. He's basically the defensive version of Phil Loadholt; a JUCO transfer with mammoth size, but doesn't really have the college production or skillset to warrant a first round selection. He has dominated in the few games he's played, but you'll be hard pressed to see him do that at the NFL level when the Oline doesn't weigh 80+ pounds less than him especially when he has no idea how to use his hands or show any semblance of technique. Now, while i seem very critical of him, I happen to love the guy. I just think with his weight issues, lack of durability and stamina, he's not a first round prospect as of yet. If he stays another year and learns to play his position and not just bull rush through people he could be one of the top DTs taken off the board next year. I just would like to see him work on his conditioning and stamina, because he'll do you no good if he can't keep his butt on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aec4 Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 Sam Bradford number 2? Please. He has got a lot of learning to do before he is a pro. Gholston went #6, ANYTHING is possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 Ya if you can get the kid in shape and teach him anything about technique. The hype that surrounds this kid is both deserved and not. He's basically the defensive version of Phil Loadholt; a JUCO transfer with mammoth size, but doesn't really have the college production or skillset to warrant a first round selection. He has dominated in the few games he's played, but you'll be hard pressed to see him do that at the NFL level when the Oline doesn't weigh 80+ pounds less than him especially when he has no idea how to use his hands or show any semblance of technique. Now, while i seem very critical of him, I happen to love the guy. I just think with his weight issues, lack of durability and stamina, he's not a first round prospect as of yet. If he stays another year and learns to play his position and not just bull rush through people he could be one of the top DTs taken off the board next year. I just would like to see him work on his conditioning and stamina, because he'll do you no good if he can't keep his butt on the field. This Kid is the ideal 3-4 NT......and he proves it every game he has played in. Ole Miss never moved the ball when he was in the game. Yes his technique could be better, but find me a better NT in the college ranks right now? He is also very athletic for his size. Thaijet, sorry man but Alabama's LT is gone after the season. No reason to stay another year, when he will be a top 5 pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BroadwayJoe12 Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 This Kid is the ideal 3-4 NT......and he proves it every game he has played in. Ole Miss never moved the ball when he was in the game. Yes his technique could be better, but find me a better NT in the college ranks right now? He is also very athletic for his size. Thaijet, sorry man but Alabama's LT is gone after the season. No reason to stay another year, when he will be a top 5 pick. Not right now he isn't. He needs to lose weight, atleast 40-50 pounds, and that's assuming he weights 370 as listed, but he looks vastly bigger and has admitted to getting up to 420. Once he loses this weight he is going to need to regain about 25-30 pounds of good weight and muscle, because right now he's mostly fat. This is a huge deal, becuase right now his conditioning and stamina is his biggest obstacle to overcome, next to learning to use his hands better. He really has to show that he has enough athletic ability to play the pass well in addition to just using his sheer size and power to just bull rush through the Oline. As of now I don't see the stamina or hand technique to take on constant double teams and keep Lineman from locking on to him. He also needs to develop his first step, or he's just going to get engulfed by the better Centers and Guards in the NFL. I really like Cody, but right now I think he should stay another year and polish up his play. He has all the potential in the world, but there are plenty of guys who come out with freakish size and potential. THe guy that comes to mind would be Mike Williams about 20 years ago; the OT from texas was taken top 10 i beleive by the bills and just had massive size and everyone thought he was dominate the running game. Well, he was just so fat and unathletic that DEs just ran around him. I think Cody could develop into a first round prospect, but just not this year. Guys who may not have the potential of Cody, but who are already much more polished, while showing potential; Terrance Taylor (6' 320) outta michigan is an absolute beast in the weight room and already has good technique and shows some decent pass rush moves, Vince Oghobaase outta Duke, most likely won't come out but is a solid player...Antonio Dixon outta Miami and Boo RObinson out of Wake Forest. And than two of my favorite, while not first round prospects, B.J. Raji, Boston College [6-1, 325] and Ron BRace who have anchored the BC line, which is one of the best in college football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted October 25, 2008 Author Share Posted October 25, 2008 Not right now he isn't. He needs to lose weight, atleast 40-50 pounds, and that's assuming he weights 370 as listed, but he looks vastly bigger and has admitted to getting up to 420. Once he loses this weight he is going to need to regain about 25-30 pounds of good weight and muscle, because right now he's mostly fat. This is a huge deal, becuase right now his conditioning and stamina is his biggest obstacle to overcome, next to learning to use his hands better. He really has to show that he has enough athletic ability to play the pass well in addition to just using his sheer size and power to just bull rush through the Oline. As of now I don't see the stamina or hand technique to take on constant double teams and keep Lineman from locking on to him. He also needs to develop his first step, or he's just going to get engulfed by the better Centers and Guards in the NFL. I really like Cody, but right now I think he should stay another year and polish up his play. He has all the potential in the world, but there are plenty of guys who come out with freakish size and potential. THe guy that comes to mind would be Mike Williams about 20 years ago; the OT from texas was taken top 10 i beleive by the bills and just had massive size and everyone thought he was dominate the running game. Well, he was just so fat and unathletic that DEs just ran around him. I think Cody could develop into a first round prospect, but just not this year. Guys who may not have the potential of Cody, but who are already much more polished, while showing potential; Terrance Taylor (6' 320) outta michigan is an absolute beast in the weight room and already has good technique and shows some decent pass rush moves, Vince Oghobaase outta Duke, most likely won't come out but is a solid player...Antonio Dixon outta Miami and Boo RObinson out of Wake Forest. And than two of my favorite, while not first round prospects, B.J. Raji, Boston College [6-1, 325] and Ron BRace who have anchored the BC line, which is one of the best in college football. sorry to disagree, Cody is an F'n Monster and by end of year will be a top 5 pick.. You can have Taylor. Rollllllllllllllll F'n TideEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 go read another thread if you don't like them, stop mucking this one up with your b.s. some people do like this type of discussion. some people like Satan worship too doesn't mean there needs to be a thread on that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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