StillerPaul Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 Now! This game tells you all ya need to know about Ben Roethlisberger and Eli Manning. Two very good young QB's! Neither one wanted the other to outdo them, and it shows! Also keep in mind it was their rookie year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragmatic Bus Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 Now! This game tells you all ya need to know about Ben Roethlisberger and Eli Manning. Two very good young QB's! Neither one wanted the other to outdo them, and it shows! Also keep in mind it was their rookie year. Eli manning > Big Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 Eli manning > Big Ben Yeah, that one run of good games he's had in his career makes sure of that. Big Ben is a much, much better QB than Eli Manning based on what they've done throughout their careers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillerPaul Posted October 25, 2008 Author Share Posted October 25, 2008 Eh, i try not to get into the 'Oh, such n such player is better than the other guy' stuff too much. Sometimes ya can't avoid it tho i guess. I know both those teams tried to help their young QB's along with the run game etc., but man the flashes of greatness were there with both those QB's imo. Matter of fact, i hope they BOTH have great HOF careers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vudu Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 Eli manning > Big Ben I agree. I will even go out on a limb and say at the end of his career Eli will have had a better career than older bro Peyton! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragmatic Bus Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 Yeah, that one run of good games he's had in his career makes sure of that. Big Ben is a much, much better QB than Eli Manning based on what they've done throughout their careers. you got me there buddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragmatic Bus Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 I agree. I will even go out on a limb and say at the end of his career Eli will have had a better career than older bro Peyton! Eli manning is perfect for New York Media. the pressure he was under last year getting booed at home and still going out and play balls to the wall and win the SB. but that is just one year right? wrong! he has been pulling comebacks like that all his life dating back to his college years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vudu Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 you got me there buddy Edit: wrong post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vudu Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 Eli manning is perfect for New York Media. the pressure he was under last year getting booed at home and still going out and play balls to the wall and win the SB. but that is just one year right? wrong! he has been pulling comebacks like that all his life dating back to his college years This is what I meant to quote. I think that Eli has a beter supporting cast RIGHT NOW than Peyton has. The Colts are an OLD team and their age is starting to show on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 Eli manning is perfect for New York Media. the pressure he was under last year getting booed at home and still going out and play balls to the wall and win the SB. but that is just one year right? wrong! he has been pulling comebacks like that all his life dating back to his college years I give credit to Eli Manning for coming into his own towards the end of last season. He played great in the playoffs and deserved to go to and win the SB. You can't however just erase the struggles he had throughout his career before that. While Eli was having his head called for in NY, Big Ben was putting together all-pro seasons and winning a SB himself. Now, Eli may very well turnout to be a better QB eventually and he has had a great start to the '08 campaign BUT so has Ben (in MUCH more difficult circumstances) and based on what both QB's have done from there rookie seasons onwards, Ben IMO has been much better. Bringing up college achievements also, couldn't possibly be any more pointless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragmatic Bus Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 This is what I meant to quote. I think that Eli has a beter supporting cast RIGHT NOW than Peyton has. The Colts are an OLD team and their age is starting to show on the field. peyton never had any big comebacks before the patriots game in the playoffs the year colts won a championship eli manning, however, is known was his big game heroics since his college days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragmatic Bus Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 I give credit to Eli Manning for coming into his own towards the end of last season. He played great in the playoffs and deserved to go to and win the SB. You can't however just erase the struggles he had throughout his career before that. While Eli was having his head called for in NY, Big Ben was putting together all-pro seasons and winning a SB himself. Now, Eli may very well turnout to be a better QB eventually and he has had a great start to the '08 campaign BUT so has Ben (in MUCH more difficult circumstances) and based on what both QB's have done from there rookie seasons onwards, Ben IMO has been much better. Bringing up college achievements also, couldn't possibly be any more pointless. i guess big ben is better than tom brady too since tom brady didn't exactly lit it up when he first came in the league its not about who has the most stats uptil now its about if you had a choice between the 2 who would you pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragmatic Bus Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 This is what I meant to shoot. nice aim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 i guess big ben is better than tom brady too since tom brady didn't exactly lit it up when he first came in the league its not about who has the most stats uptil now its about if you had a choice between the 2 who would you pick Yeah, Tom Brady didn't light it up. Won the SB in his 2nd season (First ever playing season) but didn't 'lit it up'. Okay. Also, I NEVER mentioned stats anywhere, I was saying who had performed better. I would choose Ben over Eli BECAUSE of the fact that I think he's a better QB. I think he's a better QB BECAUSE I think he's played better than Eli throughout career. Really, what don't you get? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragmatic Bus Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 Yeah, Tom Brady didn't light it up. Won the SB in his 2nd season (First ever playing season) but didn't 'lit it up'. Okay. Also, I NEVER mentioned stats anywhere, I was saying who had performed better. I would choose Ben over Eli BECAUSE of the fact that I think he's a better QB. I think he's a better QB BECAUSE I think he's played better than Eli throughout career. Really, what don't you get? how has he played better than Eli throughout his career choose one thing 1-win pct 2-sb wins 3-stats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragmatic Bus Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 if i'm starting a team and i have the choice between eli or big ben. i would take Eli in a heart beat no questions asked big ben is a good QB Eli manning is an Elite Qb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 how has he played better than Eli throughout his career choose one thing 1-win pct 2-sb wins 3-stats 1 - Ben's % is a lot better than Eli's. I think he is 44-17 while Eli is 36-26. So.. 2 - They have both won 1 SB. 3 - Ben is again MUCH better when it comes to stats too. Eli has less TD's and more picks so again I don't see your point. Not to mention Bens stats get seriously affected by his 06 campaign where he was clearly injured throughout. Overall, judging by performance and simply watching the two players, I think Ben is a much better NFL QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragmatic Bus Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 1 - Ben's % is a lot better than Eli's. I think he is 44-17 while Eli is 36-26. So.. 2 - They have both won 1 SB. 3 - Ben is again MUCH better when it comes to stats too. Eli has less TD's and more picks so again I don't see your point. Not to mention Bens stats get seriously affected by his 06 campaign where he was clearly injured throughout. Overall, judging by performance and simply watching the two players, I think Ben is a much better NFL QB. The President's Council on Physical Fitness and Sports. oh yeah beat that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 I agree. I will even go out on a limb and say at the end of his career Eli will have had a better career than older bro Peyton! That is pretty far out there on that limb. Don't look down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamont_jordan_rules Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 Eli manning is perfect for New York Media. the pressure he was under last year he went home and still played with his balls but that is just one year right? wrong! he has been pulling it like that all his dating life even back to his college years ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillerPaul Posted October 25, 2008 Author Share Posted October 25, 2008 I think i just witnessed some Big Ben hate turn into Eli love... Not sure what to make of it yet... LOL Anyways, yeah Ben has much better stats but wins are most important. Anyone who thinks Eli has more come from behind wins is NUTS imo. Look it up, not even close. Ben's 4th quarter majic is what makes him special. I still think Eli is a fine young QB and hope the best for him tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragmatic Bus Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 I think i just witnessed some Big Ben hate turn into Eli love... Not sure what to make of it yet... LOL Anyways, yeah Ben has much better stats but wins are most important. Anyone who thinks Eli has more come from behind wins is NUTS imo. Look it up, not even close. Ben's 4th quarter majic is what makes him special. I still think Eli is a fine young QB and hope the best for him tho. i wanna personaly attack you by hitting you with a stick LATHI CHARGE!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsis Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 Eli manning > Big Ben Big Ben has better stats than eli so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragmatic Bus Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 Big Ben has better stats than eli so far. LATHI CHARGE!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillerPaul Posted October 26, 2008 Author Share Posted October 26, 2008 i wanna personaly attack you by hitting you with a stick LATHI CHARGE!!! So long as it's not the ugly stick. Please gawd not that again !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragmatic Bus Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 So long as it's not the ugly stick. Please gawd not that again !! dont worry i dont hit ugly ppl. god's punishment is enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillerPaul Posted October 26, 2008 Author Share Posted October 26, 2008 dont worry i dont hit ugly ppl. god's punishment is enough See how i psyched you right out of beatin' the hell outta me? Don't mess with the Steeler mojo.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragmatic Bus Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 See how i psyched you right out of beatin' the hell outta me? Don't mess with the Steeler mojo.... so your saying your ugly? there are levels of uglyness i can ignore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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