#90 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 To everyone who keeps defending this cupcake, here is what he did........ During the first kickoff after the jets scored on the opening drive, Gholston got ripped into by Mike Westhoff on the sidelines. Apparently he either missed his assignment or had the wrong technique. Either way, you could see Westhoff was really pissed. Gholston took the yelling, and seemed to nod in response. That seemed to piss off Westhoff even more, because Westhoff wouldn't calm down and kept yelling at him. .......Great pick Tangini! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhinHater Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Yeah this is turning out to be a huge bust. I know people keep saying you have to give him time, but we are going into game number 8, week 9 and we have yet to see him. Bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachTsurfing Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 I don't think you can call him a bust pick yet. Mangini can't even coach favre the right way. Give him some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodWearsAGrayHoodie Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Mayo has 48 tackle on the season. Just sayin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Mayo has 48 tackle on the season. Just sayin. Mayo makes tackles 5 yards beyond the LOS ala VIlma. He's average. Just sayin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetfan13 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Mayo has 48 tackle on the season. Just sayin. an lb averaging 6 tackles a game? I guess your front 4 isn't that good after all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Gholston has been awful thus far. Again I can't give up on the guy in his first season but this is very worrying indeed. I wouldn't mind but we could seriously do with some help rushing the passer. Bryan Thomas is back to invisible mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodWearsAGrayHoodie Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 He's average. Just sayin. I don't think he is going to the pro-bowl this year or winning rookie of the year. But he is decent player who has contributed since day one. He is doing outstanding in comparison to Gholston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 I don't think he is going to the pro-bowl this year or winning rookie of the year. But he is decent player who has contributed since day one. He is doing outstanding in comparison to Gholston. Yeah, it's ridiculous labeling a player 'average' just like it's ridiculous to label a player a bust after 8-9 weeks. As of now though - Mayo >>> Gholston Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 I predict that VGhol will be the next Drob. Vrabel worked out with this guy in the off season. If NE thought he would be the next Lawrence Taylor they would have made the moves to get him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 I predict that VGhol will be the next Drob. Vrabel worked out with this guy in the off season. If NE thought he would be the next Lawrence Taylor they would have made the moves to get him. So to be good he needs to be 'The next Lawrence Taylor'? I think he could still turn out to be a decent player, maybe even very good if he can get his head around what it takes to be a 3-4 OLB and learn some better pass rsuhing mover. I don't think the physical element is his downfall, which was the case with D-Rob in the 3-4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 If getting yelled at by Mike Westhoff is a sign of being a lousy player then he sure as hell has coached a lot of lousy players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Mayo has 48 tackle on the season. Just sayin. Tackles is the most overrated stat. Just sayin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 So to be good he needs to be 'The next Lawrence Taylor'? I think he could still turn out to be a decent player, maybe even very good if he can get his head around what it takes to be a 3-4 OLB and learn some better pass rsuhing mover. I don't think the physical element is his downfall, which was the case with D-Rob in the 3-4. He was billed as the next Monster LB. Thats why he was drafted so high. VGhol never played in the 3 - 4, so who knows of he will ever get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Can I also point out, Jamaal Anderson was labelled a bust by many Falcon Fans last season. He had A LOT more playing time than Gholston last year, starting 16 games and recorded a grand total of 0 sacks. This is his second season and his pass rushing has really improved, he has two sacks in the last two weeks and really showing signs of coming on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 He was billed as the next Monster LB. Thats why he was drafted so high. VGhol never played in the 3 - 4, so who knows of he will ever get it. He was billed as a 'monster' but everyone knew that he could take time to adapt. He wouldn't be the first DE to struggle with the transition to OLB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Mayo has 48 tackle on the season. Just sayin. We didn't need Mayo. He can't hold David Harris' jock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Calvin Pace was a bust after his first season too and he's a certefied beast in 2008. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drago Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Yeah this is turning out to be a huge bust. I know people keep saying you have to give him time, but we are going into game number 8, week 9 and we have yet to see him. Bust. Not really defending him but come on. Look who coaches this team. This staff is the same group of degenerates that keeps 4 QB's with 2 RB's for the first 4 games. Rarely give Leon the ball, pass against horrible run defenses, run against horrible pass defenses, consistantly call shot gun on 3rd and short or on the goal line, and were happy with D-rob for the first 2 years of a 34 defense. The CS sucks, until schotty, sutton and mangini are gone, then we can have a look at gholston...until then? I'll just assume Gholston should be playing and Mangini forgot that he actually received two first round picks this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Can I also point out.... No, you cant. Gholston is a bust, endastory! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Gholston sucks. Zero moves, plays stiff. He slap boxes lineman, waits around...then stands around the pile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 No, you cant. Gholston is a bust, endastory! Damn. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSFAN5180 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Gholston will be fine the second half of the season he will silence the nay-sayers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMaynard Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Gholston will be fine the second half of the season he will silence the nay-sayers. He is going to shoot people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharrow Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Mario Williams was a bust after his first year too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSFAN5180 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 He is going to shoot people? I hope not we might see him starting in Buffalo this weekend with the Harris injury.Breakout game courtesy of the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Calvin Pace was a bust after his first season too and he's a certefied beast in 2008. Pace is an excellent example of the flaws in the "He needs time to develop" argument. If Gholston develops the way Pace did, the Jets will get one decent season for what? 42 million? Ouch. In today's NFL top 10 players have to start producing some time in their first year, or they are a bust to the team that drafted them. Who gives a crap if Gholston is a stud for whoever he signs his next contract with. I'd like to get some bang for the bucks. What's worrying me about this kid is, he isn't getting any heat on the passer even when he has his hand in the dirt, and is just supposed to tee off. He's worrying me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4HCrew Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Why not pick on offensive lineman who are getting the quarterback killed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSFAN5180 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Why not pick on offensive lineman who are getting the quarterback killed? Have to agree with 4HCrew on this one.They have been under the radar but have been anything but protective of the QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vudu Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Mayo makes tackles 5 yards beyond the LOS ala VIlma. He's average. Just sayin. Mayo>Gholston Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Mario Williams was a bust after his first year too Yes... Yes he was. We shall see with Gholston. Obviously no one can be happy about him right now, but it's unfair to compare him to Mayo. Gholston needs to learn the position, he needs to mature, and he has all the physical ability. He is not a workout warrior, as he performed all through college, unlike D-Rob... I'm willing to give him until early in the season next year before I start making judgements. I'd love him to be out there making an impact right now, but the early projections of him being great were wishful thinking at best. I honestly believe it will come, and if/when it does, he'll be a real problem for other teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSFAN5180 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Yes... Yes he was. We shall see with Gholston. Obviously no one can be happy about him right now, but it's unfair to compare him to Mayo. Gholston needs to learn the position, he needs to mature, and he has all the physical ability. He is not a workout warrior, as he performed all through college, unlike D-Rob... I'm willing to give him until early in the season next year before I start making judgements. I'd love him to be out there making an impact right now, but the early projections of him being great were wishful thinking at best. I honestly believe it will come, and if/when it does, he'll be a real problem for other teams. Bravo EY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Mario Williams was a bust after his first year too LOL, no he wasn't. Not for anyone who watched him that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEPRESSED JET!!!!!! Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Gholston has been awful ,but at the same time he is not going to get any better standing around on the sideline . Mangini needs to play him so he may become more comfortable.IMO I really think under a different coaching staff, Gholston would be a different player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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