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if the playoffs started today......

Ok, I know it's early, and we're technically at the half-way pole, and not coming down the stretch

but

this is pretty interesting

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/standings?season=2008&breakdown=2&split=0&seasonType=2

this is the current AFC picture per ESPN

Tennessee

Pittsburgh

Baltimore

Buffalo

NY Jets

New England

we would be the #5 seed, and go on the road to buffalo, and the pats would be the #6 seed and go to baltimore

right ?

this season just officially got really ****ing exciting :headbang:

GO JETS !!!!!!

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Actually if the playoffs were held today

AFC

#1 Tenn

#2 Pitt

#3 NE

#4 Den

#5 Bal

#6 Buff

After looking at the Tiebreaking procedures, this is correct. Baltimore (5-3) and Buffalo (3-2) hold the advantage over the Jets (4-3). How? By percentages.

.1000

.600

.571 - Jets

Since all 3 teams do not face each other, this is how it would be decided.

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After looking at the Tiebreaking procedures, this is correct. Baltimore (5-3) and Buffalo (3-2) hold the advantage over the Jets (4-3). How? By percentages.

.1000

.600

.571 - Jets

Since all 3 teams do not face each other, this is how it would be decided.

Of course, this will all be moot when we've gained sole possession of 1st place 2 weeks from now. ;)

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After looking at the Tiebreaking procedures, this is correct. Baltimore (5-3) and Buffalo (3-2) hold the advantage over the Jets (4-3). How? By percentages.

.1000

.600

.571 - Jets

Since all 3 teams do not face each other, this is how it would be decided.

Ummm. NO.

Division ties are ALWAYS broken 1st.

3 way tie for our division. NE takes the tiebreaker (1-0 against NYJ/BUF, Jets 1-1 NE/BUF, Buf 0-1). So that leaves BUF/NYJ tied for 2nd. NYJ wins H2H tiebreaker. What's this mean? Only way BUF can make the WC is if the NYJ were the 5 seed and they beat everyone else out.

And if you need more proof, becuase some of you are thick sculled,

http://www.nfl.com/standings?category=conf&season=2008-REG&split=Overall

TEN

PIT

NE

DEN

BAL

NYJ

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Ummm. NO.

Division ties are ALWAYS broken 1st.

3 way tie for our division. NE takes the tiebreaker (1-0 against NYJ/BUF, Jets 1-1 NE/BUF, Buf 0-1). So that leaves BUF/NYJ tied for 2nd. NYJ wins H2H tiebreaker. What's this mean? Only way BUF can make the WC is if the NYJ were the 5 seed and they beat everyone else out.

Looks like we're going to the playoffs!

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Ummm. NO.

Division ties are ALWAYS broken 1st.

3 way tie for our division. NE takes the tiebreaker (1-0 against NYJ/BUF, Jets 1-1 NE/BUF, Buf 0-1). So that leaves BUF/NYJ tied for 2nd. NYJ wins H2H tiebreaker. What's this mean? Only way BUF can make the WC is if the NYJ were the 5 seed and they beat everyone else out.

And if you need more proof, becuase some of you are thick sculled,

http://www.nfl.com/standings?category=conf&season=2008-REG&split=Overall

TEN

PIT

NE

DEN

BAL

NYJ

This is correct. Buffalo is behind us in the division. They don't then leapfrog us in any playoff scenario that wipes out head-to-head & divisional records. No matter how many teams have the same record, it's always head-to-head record, then divisional record, then common games record, then conference record.

http://www.nfl.com/standings/tiebreakingprocedures

First 4 are always the division winners.

After that it's best record for slots 5/6. That's determined by:

Two Clubs

1. Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games between the clubs).

2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.

3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.

4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.

5. Strength of victory.

6. Strength of schedule.

7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.

8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.

9. Best net points in common games.

10. Best net points in all games.

11. Best net touchdowns in all games.

Three or More Clubs

(Note: If two clubs remain tied after third or other clubs are eliminated during any step, tie breaker reverts to step 1 of the two-club format).

1. Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games among the clubs).

2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.

3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.

4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.

5. Strength of victory.

6. Strength of schedule.

7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.

8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.

9. Best net points in common games.

10. Best net points in all games.

11. Best net touchdowns in all games.

TO BREAK A TIE FOR THE WILD-CARD TEAM

If it is necessary to break ties to determine the two Wild-Card clubs from each conference, the following steps will be taken.

1. If the tied clubs are from the same division, apply division tie breaker.

2. If the tied clubs are from different divisions, apply the following steps...

Because we own Buffalo head-to-head, nothing else matters. If we were 1-1 against each other, our div record is still better after that. There is no scenario where Buffalo is in & we are out (thus far) while we have the same overall record.

That was a huge win for us on Sunday. A loss would have given Buffalo a leg-up on the tie-breaker (though we play once more), and they'd be 1-1 in the division instead of 0-2. Our division record would be 1-2 instead of 2-1. Huge.

At least now we control our own fate. But with 3 teams tied (and a 4th only 1 game back), there's really too much football left for this to be meaningful. If we go 3-5 the rest of the way & finish 8-8 then it all goes out the window.

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This is correct. Buffalo is behind us in the division. They don't then leapfrog us in any playoff scenario that wipes out head-to-head & divisional records. No matter how many teams have the same record, it's always head-to-head record, then divisional record, then common games record, then conference record.

http://www.nfl.com/standings/tiebreakingprocedures

First 4 are always the division winners.

After that it's best record for slots 5/6. That's determined by:

Two Clubs

1. Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games between the clubs).

2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.

3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.

4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.

5. Strength of victory.

6. Strength of schedule.

7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.

8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.

9. Best net points in common games.

10. Best net points in all games.

11. Best net touchdowns in all games.

Three or More Clubs

(Note: If two clubs remain tied after third or other clubs are eliminated during any step, tie breaker reverts to step 1 of the two-club format).

1. Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games among the clubs).

2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.

3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.

4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.

5. Strength of victory.

6. Strength of schedule.

7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.

8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.

9. Best net points in common games.

10. Best net points in all games.

11. Best net touchdowns in all games.

TO BREAK A TIE FOR THE WILD-CARD TEAM

If it is necessary to break ties to determine the two Wild-Card clubs from each conference, the following steps will be taken.

1. If the tied clubs are from the same division, apply division tie breaker.

2. If the tied clubs are from different divisions, apply the following steps...

Because we own Buffalo head-to-head, nothing else matters. If we were 1-1 against each other, our div record is still better after that. There is no scenario where Buffalo is in & we are out (thus far) while we have the same overall record.

That was a huge win for us on Sunday. A loss would have given Buffalo a leg-up on the tie-breaker (though we play once more), and they'd be 1-1 in the division instead of 0-2. Our division record would be 1-2 instead of 2-1. Huge.

At least now we control our own fate. But with 3 teams tied (and a 4th only 1 game back), there's really too much football left for this to be meaningful. If we go 3-5 the rest of the way & finish 8-8 then it all goes out the window.

you just made my #### hard!!

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