SouthernJet Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 Nice time to ride to the rescue, Charlie by Jason Whitlock It is very brave and quite magnanimous for The Great Weis Hope to throw his offensive coordinator under the bus by publicly announcing his decision to reclaim leadership of the Notre Dame offense with defensive powerhouses Navy and Syracuse on the Irish schedule. Too often, I waste column inches blasting Charlie Weis, Notre Dame and the lifetime contract awarded to an unproven blowhard. I never take the time to point out the good side of "Pear Bryant." Well, that changes today. I cannot deny the courageousness and nobility of Weis embarrassing offensive coordinator Mike Haywood following Notre Dame's 17-0 loss to Boston College over the weekend. Look, most college coaches of reasonable character and integrity would've stripped Haywood of his control of Notre Dame's offense privately. A low-key, moderate-ego coach would've kept the behind-the-scenes maneuvering behind the scenes. But Weis has virtually no ego. He is arguably the most ego-less coach working today. That's why he made it crystal clear to anyone who would listen that he will be responsible for any offensive success the Irish have when they face defensive juggernauts Navy and Syracuse. The undersized Middies are giving up just 27 points per game to Division I opponents. The 2-7 Orangemen are nearly as stingy, surrendering just 37 points per outing. As you can see, a week after battling the nation's 10th-best defense (Boston College), it's extremely noble for Weis to alert the media of his plans to fix Notre Dame's offense. I'm sure the same media members who championed Weis' lifetime contract will once again sing his praises when the Irish show remarkable improvement and climb to 7-4 before getting waxed by USC. Again, Notre Dame's progress and Pear Bryant's greatness can best be seen by analyzing Washington's failure under Tyrone Willingham. You must remember that Tyrone Willingham's recruiting is what destroyed Notre Dame football, and as long as Tyrone is recruiting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn306 Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 Charlie Weis can kiss my Fighting Irish rooting @ss. The man singlehandedly is destroying a great college football traditional power. Even worse than Gerry Faust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonehands Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 Whitlock is 100% correct, again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boozer76 Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 The NY media needs a writer like Whitlock, or even better Whitlock himself! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 Not saying he's wrong. But Weis is running up against the same things Willingham and Davies did-high academic requirements and the fact that ND no longer has the cache with young football players it did even 15 years ago. If you're a top talent, why go to South Bend when you can go to any number of SEC or ACC schools or Texas, or USC or ASU? Plus they expect you to actually go to class and get passing grades at ND. It's not 1978 any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted November 11, 2008 Author Share Posted November 11, 2008 Not saying he's wrong. But Weis is running up against the same things Willingham and Davies did-high academic requirements and the fact that ND no longer has the cache with young football players it did even 15 years ago. If you're a top talent, why go to South Bend when you can go to any number of SEC or ACC schools or Texas, or USC or ASU? Plus they expect you to actually go to class and get passing grades at ND. It's not 1978 any more. yup.. look at latest list,,,its hard to graduate kids AND win.. North Carolina, wake, Penn State seem to be doing both 2008 NCAA Graduation Success Rate for BCS Football Programs 1. Notre Dame 94% 2. Stanford 93 T3. BC 92 T3. Duke 92 T3. Northwestern 92 6. Vanderbilt 91 7. Wake Forest 83 8. Texas Tech 79 T9. Baylor 78 T9. Nebraska 78 T9. UNC 78 T9. Penn State 78 T13. UConn 77 T13. Indiana 77 T15. Colorado 75 T15. Iowa 75 T15. Syracuse 75 T15. Virginia Tech 75 19. Cincinnati 73 T20. Illinois 70 T20. Michigan 70 T20. Miami 70 T20. Rutgers 70 24. Florida State 69 T25. Clemson 68 T25. Florida 68 T25. Maryland 68 T25. Wash State 68 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boozer76 Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 Not saying he's wrong. But Weis is running up against the same things Willingham and Davies did-high academic requirements and the fact that ND no longer has the cache with young football players it did even 15 years ago. If you're a top talent, why go to South Bend when you can go to any number of SEC or ACC schools or Texas, or USC or ASU? Plus they expect you to actually go to class and get passing grades at ND. It's not 1978 any more. yup.. look at latest list,,,its hard to graduate kids AND win.. North Carolina, wake, Penn State seem to be doing both 2008 NCAA Graduation Success Rate for BCS Football Programs 1. Notre Dame 94% 2. Stanford 93 T3. BC 92 T3. Duke 92 T3. Northwestern 92 6. Vanderbilt 91 7. Wake Forest 83 8. Texas Tech 79 T9. Baylor 78 T9. Nebraska 78 T9. UNC 78 T9. Penn State 78 T13. UConn 77 T13. Indiana 77 T15. Colorado 75 T15. Iowa 75 T15. Syracuse 75 T15. Virginia Tech 75 19. Cincinnati 73 T20. Illinois 70 T20. Michigan 70 T20. Miami 70 T20. Rutgers 70 24. Florida State 69 T25. Clemson 68 T25. Florida 68 T25. Maryland 68 T25. Wash State 68 Nonsense. Weis has had the #1 ranked HS draft in just about every year as ND's coach now. He's got the players, he just sucks ass as a coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyHector Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 The NY media needs a writer like Whitlock, or even better Whitlock himself! He'd never do it... it would be too difficult to find ways to slip in his requisite Ball State references in NY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 Nonsense. Weis has had the #1 ranked HS draft in just about every year as ND's coach now. He's got the players, he just sucks ass as a coach. How much of that is ND hyping it's recruits rather than reality? Jimmy freaking Claussen float your boat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boozer76 Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 How much of that is ND hyping it's recruits rather than reality? Jimmy freaking Claussen float your boat? It has nothing to do with ND's hype. It's the ranking of the players prior to them commiting to their school of choice. ND has repeatedly had the top ranked class with Weis. The problem is he and his coaches are so pisspoor at coaching and developing these kids that they end up looking like crap. Jimmy Clausen with the right team and coaches would probably be a stud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyHector Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 How much of that is ND hyping it's recruits rather than reality? Jimmy freaking Claussen float your boat? Rivals ranks the Notre Dame recruiting classes as follows: 2006 - 8th 2007 - 8th 2008 - 2nd Even if you give Weis a bye on his current senior class (ranked 40th by Rivals), you should still be getting a lot more from a team with so many highly-touted recruits. PS - Jimmy Claussen was the #1 ranked QB in the nation when he committed to ND (and Rivals' #1 overall prospect). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 Nice time to ride to the rescue, Charlie by Jason Whitlock One of, if not the best sportswriter around in my book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbon Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 yup.. look at latest list,,,its hard to graduate kids AND win.. North Carolina, wake, Penn State seem to be doing both 2008 NCAA Graduation Success Rate for BCS Football Programs 1. Notre Dame 94% 2. Stanford 93 T3. BC 92 T3. Duke 92 T3. Northwestern 92 6. Vanderbilt 91 7. Wake Forest 83 8. Texas Tech 79 T9. Baylor 78 T9. Nebraska 78 T9. UNC 78 T9. Penn State 78 T13. UConn 77 T13. Indiana 77 T15. Colorado 75 T15. Iowa 75 T15. Syracuse 75 T15. Virginia Tech 75 19. Cincinnati 73 T20. Illinois 70 T20. Michigan 70 T20. Miami 70 T20. Rutgers 70 24. Florida State 69 T25. Clemson 68 T25. Florida 68 T25. Maryland 68 T25. Wash State 68 Uh . . . did you just not notice Texas Tech? Tech is proof that everything that Whitlock said about Weis is correct. Texas Tech is only the 4th most popular option for top level high school talent from Texas behind UT, Texas A&M, and Oklahoma (not necessarily in that order). They maintain high academic standards (for a state school) and have a good graduation rate. And last time I checked they were #2 nationally, undefeated and played a schedule considerably tougher than Notre Dame's. There are plenty of great student athletes in this country. High academic standards are not the reason for ND's failures, they are an excuse for the Weis apologists. Personally, I think Whitlock is exactly right about Weis as a coach. I'm hoping for 6-6, but fully expect the Irish to finish 7-5 and go to a bowl game where they will get the hell beaten out of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsMan57 Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 Not saying he's wrong. But Weis is running up against the same things Willingham and Davies did-high academic requirements and the fact that ND no longer has the cache with young football players it did even 15 years ago. If you're a top talent, why go to South Bend when you can go to any number of SEC or ACC schools or Texas, or USC or ASU? Plus they expect you to actually go to class and get passing grades at ND. It's not 1978 any more. Yes but Fat Chuck's superior coaching ability was supposed to offset that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 Yes but Fat Chuck's superior coaching ability was supposed to offset that. Simply not happening. Not to put too fine a point on it, but from the ND games I've seen the last decade or so, they're always slower, smaller and weaker(and antecdotally whiter) than their opponents as well as the top Div.I teams. And that's not good. If Jimy Claussen is or was ever the top prep QB in all the land, the guys who evaluate talent need to be fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyHector Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 If Jimy Claussen is or was ever the top prep QB in all the land, the guys who evaluate talent need to be fired. Wouldn't Charlie Weis, the man who recruited Claussen to play at ND, be one of those "guys"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 Wouldn't Charlie Weis, the man who recruited Claussen to play at ND, be one of those "guys"? Yes,sir. Not defending Weis, merely pointing out whether it's him or Willingham or Davies or anyone ND is not what it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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