Leon Washington

[JMJ]

We have been screaming this for 2 years now and now a national stage got to see it:

How freaking explosive is Leon Washington?!?!

How irresponsible is it to only give him 7 touches of the football all game long? He is the only player on our team who is a threat to take it to the house no matter where he touches the football and he now has 4 TDs on only 81 offensive touches this season (and he has a 5th on special teams where he leads all return men with at least double digit returns in kick return average with 29.6 yards per return, and he is 3rd in punt return average for all return men with at least double digit returns with a 12.9 average).

Get Leon Washington the damn football! Use him like the Eagles do Westbrook, or the Saints do Reggie Bush. I don't care how you use him but *****ing use him!

[JETSorDIE]

ditto

[Thai Jet]

We have been screaming this for 2 years now and now a national stage got to see it:

How freaking explosive is Leon Washington?!?!

How irresponsible is it to only give him 7 touches of the football all game long? He is the only player on our team who is a threat to take it to the house no matter where he touches the football and he now has 4 TDs on only 81 offensive touches this season (and he has a 5th on special teams where he leads all return men with at least double digit returns in kick return average with 29.6 yards per return, and he is 3rd in punt return average for all return men with at least double digit returns with a 12.9 average).

Get Leon Washington the damn football! Use him like the Eagles do Westbrook, or the Saints do Reggie Bush. I don't care how you use him but *****ing use him!

Agreed

[afosomf]

I would use Leon in Wild Hog formation too

i just do not understand why your best player on offensive player

is on sidelines!!!

[joiseyjet]

How many years does this kid have left on his contract ? We should sign him to a extention now before the Players Assoc. comes up with their new Salarey Cap/contract in 2010 ,this is one guy who does deserve the new contract .

[Ccssrs69]

Ding Ding Ding - I personally think we need to move him into a slot position every once in a while. He is so God Damn Fast, there is very few that can keep up with him.

[PaJetFan]

I've been saying this every day since he arrived two years ago. GIVE HIM THE BALL - at least 30 - 40 % of running plays!

[afosomf]

Leon's 1st TD was covered fairly well by pats, the kid has the quickness

and wiggle like a westbrook to make something out of nothing.

[CTM]

Ding Ding Ding - I personally think we need to move him into a slot position every once in a while. He is so God Damn Fast, there is very few that can keep up with him.

I'd like to see more of this too..

Leon's not really that good of a running back. He's more comparable to Reggie Bush type then a Westbrook imo..

[Boozer76]

The thing alot of you seemingly don't realize is for the majority of our offensive futility in the 3rd and 4th quarter we were running a slurry of plays designed to go to Leon, and they didn't work at all. It wasn't until we went back to handing Jones the ball that we got back on track and won the game. Leon is explosive as hell, but trying to force the ball into him is not the answer. I do like the idea of lining him up in the slot, especially with Jones in at tailback.

[afosomf]

The thing alot of you seemingly don't realize is for the majority of our offensive futility in the 3rd and 4th quarter we were running a slurry of plays designed to go to Leon, and they didn't work at all. It wasn't until we went back to handing Jones the ball that we got back on track and won the game. Leon is explosive as hell, but trying to force the ball into him is not the answer. I do like the idea of lining him up in the slot, especially with Jones in at tailback.

Booz do not agree, favre missed a wide open Leon, on 3rd down, he pulled

the ball down and ran, also look at replay on his TD pass, that is all Leon.

leon hardly touched the ball, he is better than golden bush IMO

[JMJ]

The thing alot of you seemingly don't realize is for the majority of our offensive futility in the 3rd and 4th quarter we were running a slurry of plays designed to go to Leon, and they didn't work at all. It wasn't until we went back to handing Jones the ball that we got back on track and won the game. Leon is explosive as hell, but trying to force the ball into him is not the answer.

What game did you watch? Leon only had 7 touches all game long and one of them was in overtime. That leaves 6 touches in regulation. 2 of them came on the opening drive and one of them was an all-Leon TD. He also had a huge 3rd down conversion reception in the second half. That leaves three other touches total all game long. Just how were we "forcing the ball to him" or "running a slurry of plays to him that weren't working at all?"

Is there an option here to nominate a worst post of the week? Exhibit A is quoted above ...

[Boozer76]

Booz do not agree, favre missed a wide open Leon, on 3rd down, he pulled

the ball down and ran, also look at replay on his TD pass, that is all Leon.

leon hardly touched the ball, he is better than golden bush IMO

I agree Wash is better than Bush, but we totally went away from our gameplan of handing the ball off to Jones. When we did that our offense completely stalled.

[CTM]

I agree Wash is better than Bush, but we totally went away from our gameplan of handing the ball off to Jones. When we did that our offense completely stalled.

Huh?

If you check the play by play (below), Jones got the ball once every 3 downs in the third quarter?? Leon got thrown to 1 time, to convert our only 1st down of the quarter and didn't run it once?

New York Jets at 13:03

1-10-NYJ 33 (13:03) 4-B.Favre sacked at NYJ 24 for -9 yards (75-V.Wilfork).

2-19-NYJ 24 (12:32) 20-T.Jones up the middle to NYJ 29 for 5 yards (75-V.Wilfork, 51-J.Mayo).

3-14-NYJ 29 (11:45) (Shotgun) 4-B.Favre sacked at NYJ 20 for -9 yards (93-R.Seymour).

4-23-NYJ 20 (11:26) 6-R.Hodges punts 46 yards to NE 34, Center-85-J.Dearth. 83-W.Welker to NE 36 for 2 yards (31-A.Carroll, 16-B.Smith).

New York Jets at 08:29

1-10-NYJ 16 (8:29) 20-T.Jones right guard to NYJ 21 for 5 yards (54-T.Bruschi).

2-5-NYJ 21 (7:55) 4-B.Favre pass short right to 86-C.Baker pushed ob at NYJ 22 for 1 yard (21-D.O'Neal, 54-T.Bruschi).

3-4-NYJ 22 (7:25) PENALTY on NYJ-65-B.Moore, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at NYJ 22 - No Play.

3-9-NYJ 17 (7:08) (Shotgun) 4-B.Favre pass short middle to 29-L.Washington to NYJ 27 for 10 yards (31-B.Meriweather, 58-P.Woods).

1-10-NYJ 27 (6:33) 20-T.Jones up the middle to NYJ 31 for 4 yards (75-V.Wilfork, 93-R.Seymour).

2-6-NYJ 31 (5:59) 4-B.Favre pass short left to 87-L.Coles to NYJ 35 for 4 yards (27-E.Hobbs).

3-2-NYJ 35 (5:18) (Shotgun) 4-B.Favre pass incomplete short left to 29-L.Washington.

4-2-NYJ 35 (5:13) 6-R.Hodges punts 43 yards to NE 22, Center-85-J.Dearth, fair catch by 83-W.Welker.

New York Jets at 04:16

1-10-NYJ 22 (4:16) 4-B.Favre pass short right to 87-L.Coles pushed ob at NYJ 26 for 4 yards (21-D.O'Neal).

2-6-NYJ 26 (3:55) 20-T.Jones up the middle to NYJ 30 for 4 yards (99-M.Wright, 54-T.Bruschi).

3-2-NYJ 30 (3:08) (Shotgun) 4-B.Favre scrambles left end to NYJ 31 for 1 yard (51-J.Mayo).

4-1-NYJ 31 (2:36) 6-R.Hodges punts 49 yards to NE 20, Center-85-J.Dearth. 83-W.Welker to NE 22 for 2 yards (31-A.Carroll).

[JMJ]

Huh?

If you check the play by play (below), Jones got the ball once every 3 downs in the third quarter?? Leon got thrown to 1 time, to convert our only 1st down of the quarter and didn't run it once?

:snipped the play-by-play

I'm posting on the train from my blackberry so I couldn't go post that myself. Thanks.

[SMC]

Leon is the Jets most dynamic player and, as JMJ said, he needs more touches.

Hate to defend Mangini in this, but I think its easier said than done to give him more touches in a game. They mentioned last night that Thomas Jones has been tackled for a loss the least amount of times than any RB in the NFL. So there's an obvious tendancy to put him in there more often because you're pretty much going to do no worse than no gain, and probably are going to get at least 3.5 yards. Thomas Jones was running the ball pretty well last night and he wasn't gassed, so I could see why Mangini would stick with him.

So when you have a RB like that, its hard to switch him out for the Homerun hitter, swing or miss. That said, I think that Leon should be in on more pass and running plays.

[SMC]

I'm posting on the train from my blackberry so I couldn't go post that myself. Thanks.

That's what you call dedication.

[madmike1]

You mean you guys don't want to trade him back for Herm?

[Columbia Jet Fan]

I'm posting on the train from my blackberry so I couldn't go post that myself. Thanks.

I do this too!! We need to get Max to get a JetNation Mobile version up...

[CTM]

That's what you call dedication.

Character I'd call it..

When you start a thread I feel like it's an obligation to respond to people commenting in it.

I hate when somebody starts a thread with lots of words and stuff and then doesn't even respond to anyone commenting. Seriously, I don't know if people who do that think the profound nugget of wisdom they just dropped on us is all that's required, but I think a decent person takes the time to interact with those that took the time to read and comment on their musings.

[JMJ]

Character I'd call it..

When you start a thread I feel like it's an obligation to respond to people commenting in it.

I hate when somebody starts a thread with lots of words and stuff and then doesn't even respond to anyone commenting. Seriously, I don't know if people who do that think the profound nugget of wisdom they just dropped on us is all that's required, but I think a decent person takes the time to interact with those that took the time to read and comment on their musings.

No comment.

[CTM]

No comment.

Well played..

Jerk

[JMJ]

Well played..

Jerk

Sorry man. I wanted to include this smiley which would have lightened the tone:

But you can't include smilies in blackberry posts (I'm at the office now).

[ZachEY]

I'd like to see more of this too..

Leon's not really that good of a running back. He's more comparable to Reggie Bush type then a Westbrook imo..

You can't expect him to run between the tackles.

I'm pretty certain Kris Jenkins takes dumps that are comparable in size to Leon Washington.

[J.E.T.S. JETS JETS JETS]

Leon washington is the damm man he has doing it for the JETS all season.

[afosomf]

You can't expect him to run between the tackles.

I'm pretty certain Kris Jenkins takes dumps that are comparable in size to Leon Washington.

He is the same size as Barry Sanders was!

He is the home run hitter!!!!

[villain_the_foe]

I would use Leon in Wild Hog formation too

i just do not understand why your best player on offensive player

is on sidelines!!!

Actually, I understand it. Washington plays his position EXTREMELY WELL. It doesnt matter if he doesnt start the game because he surely ends it.

[DoubleDown]

Leon is an explosive weapon on offense, but his luster wears off the more touches he gets. He's a change of pace player, not someone you design the bulk of your game plan around. I think the Jets are using him correctly as a spark while TJ gets most of the workload. I would love to see us run some two RB sets which would keep the defense off balance and allow Leon to play in the slot and split out wide.

Leon would be used much more often on offense if he wasn't such a liability in pass protection.

[villain_the_foe]

Leon is an explosive weapon on offense, but his luster wears off the more touches he gets. He's a change of pace player, not someone you design the bulk of your game plan around. I think the Jets are using him correctly as a spark while TJ gets most of the workload. I would love to see us run some two RB sets which would keep the defense off balance and allow Leon to play in the slot and split out wide.

Leon would be used much more often on offense if he wasn't such a liability in pass protection.

good point. I would like to see the Jets use a split back formation as well. TJ can also catch the football. Defenses wouldnt be able to blitz in a situation like that.

[Jetfan13]

How many years does this kid have left on his contract ? We should sign him to a extention now before the Players Assoc. comes up with their new Salarey Cap/contract in 2010 ,this is one guy who does deserve the new contract .

next year is his final year and there is already grumblings about him not being offered an extension. If we lose him so help me God I will burn everything I have that reminds me of the Jets, including my spare bedroom

[Ghost]

Thomas Jones and Leon Washington is a great duo.

[CTM]

Sorry man. I wanted to include this smiley which would have lightened the tone:

But you can't include smilies in blackberry posts (I'm at the office now).

Ha! I saw your lack of smilies use and followed suit..

I knew your post was in jest, as was mine

[124]

You can't get much better than our duo and how they're playing right now. Jones leads the AFC in rushing, before last nights game, and Leon is 2nd or 3rd best return man in the league and brings some explosivness to the offense.

[DireJet38]

Time to ante up the paper.

Open the checkbook, Woodrow.

[Sperm Edwards]

He is the same size as Barry Sanders was!

He is the home run hitter!!!!

Consider:

1) Leon is not Barry Sanders.

1) Leon doesn't get to face too many opponents where both DT's are under 290 lbs.

2) Barry used to lead the league in carries for lost-yardage almost every year. We didn't watch every Detroit game back then; all we saw were ESPN highlights showing the 40-60 yard gains.

4) Again, Leon is not Barry Sanders.

Drew Brees is 6'0" tall. That doesn't mean you rationalize going after midget QB's like that because Drew Brees is short for a QB. He's that good because he's that good at any size.

Leon gets stuffed plenty. The problem is that our power-back doesn't exactly push the pile himself.