Would Brady have beaten us?

[BigOrangeJetFan]

There were a few throws that Brady would have made, but Cassell's mobility, especially on that TD to Moss were plays that Brady couldn't make. What do you think?

[PS17]

There were a few throws that Brady would have made, but Cassell's mobility, especially on that TD to Moss were plays that Brady couldn't make. What do you think?

Yes, Brady would have beaten us. Case closed, if anyone else disagrees they're crazy. That play where Moss was wide open downfield and Cassel threw the ball 3 feet over his head, Brady makes that play to Moss in his sleep & then the game is a different story.

[Pragmatic Bus]

brady is not that mobile and we probably had more sacks. jets defense has struggled against mobile QBs

fitzpatrick

philip rivers

matt cassel

jemarcus russell

[serphnx]

If we don't have these coaches, we still win the game imo. Actually, since Brady would have kept coming, maybe we never shut it down and win by 10.

[Irish Jet]

I have to think Brady would have had fun with our pass defense. Then again we would have schemed him differently. It's tough to know but I'd say he would have.

[tparich]

Hard to say..If we get some good hits on Brady early then he seems to shut down.

[RSJ]

Matt Cassell > Tom Brady

[anskyruben]

The entire game would've been different. I think if this team continues as is, they will get stronger as the season goes. If Favfre returns for a second year with a similar casty, I think we can beat Brady no problem. I don;t think people understand that it takes time for a guy like Favre to gel with his receivers. You can see the progress as the weeks go by.

[Jared]

Maybe. I think a bigger effect would've been having Adalius or Rodney. Rodney may be slow, but I have to imagine he would've played better underneath coverage against some of those TE plays where range isn't as big of an issue.

[nyjfan]

I think NE would have won with Brady. Our offense can handle them selves but our

defense is crap against the pass. It probably would have been a high scoring

game on both sides with our defense giving up one too many scores to win the

game.

[ZachEY]

Yes, Brady would have beaten us. Case closed, if anyone else disagrees they're crazy. That play where Moss was wide open downfield and Cassel threw the ball 3 feet over his head, Brady makes that play to Moss in his sleep & then the game is a different story.

While the answer is still yes, I would assume that under no circumstances with Brady at QB, would you find a situation in which Ahmad Carroll was lined up against Randy Moss with little over the top help.

[ECURB]

JETS win either way... Brady does not get those killer 1st down runs... he would have been under more pressure and always plays a notch down under pressure... (see the Giants SB win)

[jetophile]

Matt Cassell > Tom Brady

Haha, that's just hilarious. However, it could also be the harbinger of doom so what am I talking.

[CoachTsurfing]

Yes, Brady would have beaten us. Case closed, if anyone else disagrees they're crazy. That play where Moss was wide open downfield and Cassel threw the ball 3 feet over his head, Brady makes that play to Moss in his sleep & then the game is a different story.

I think it would have been a closer game in the beginning. But, the outcome would have been the same. At least in my heart it would have.

[NIGHT STALKER]

My heart says no and my head says yes.

[afosomf]

Ask yourself this question??

Mattie cass threw for 400 yadds and is terrible on throws on 15

[Jetfan13]

Brady wouldn't have had 62 yds rushing and however many 1st downs while doing it..

and guess what, we won, who cares

[Blackout]

Yes

the thing is, he wouldn't have had 400 yards or 60 rushing

[NIGHT STALKER]

Brady wouldn't have had 62 yds rushing and however many 1st downs while doing it..

and guess what, we won, who cares

You know what Al, that's the bottom line...we're in first place and that's all that really matters at the end of the day.

[Blackout]

with brady the pats would probably be 8-1 or so

they'd have 100 more points atleast too

[aec4]

Yes, Brady would have beaten us. Case closed, if anyone else disagrees they're crazy. That play where Moss was wide open downfield and Cassel threw the ball 3 feet over his head, Brady makes that play to Moss in his sleep & then the game is a different story.

I disagree and I'm not crazy.

I honestly don't know what would happen and I have NO IDEA what gameplan on defense we would have had if Brady was at qb. It probably would have been different, so questions like this are pointless.

[afosomf]

I disagree and I'm not crazy.

I honestly don't know what would happen and I have NO IDEA what gameplan on defense we would have had if Brady was at qb. It probably would have been different, so questions like this are pointless.

????

Since Cass sucks at throwing the long ball....why didn't sutton take

away short routes and grand canyon running lanes...inquiring minds want

to know.

[PS17]

????

Since Cass sucks at throwing the long ball....why didn't sutton take

away short routes and grand canyon running lanes...inquiring minds want

to know.

Because, unfortunately Bob Sutton suffers from mental retardation.

[JetsMan57]

Yes, Brady would have beaten us. Case closed, if anyone else disagrees they're crazy. That play where Moss was wide open downfield and Cassel threw the ball 3 feet over his head, Brady makes that play to Moss in his sleep & then the game is a different story.

You're pretty much saying the game would have played out exactly the same and the Pats would have been in that same exact position.

Maybe Brady does beat us, but how much better could he have played than Cassel? Yes, Cassel missed some easy throws, but he also had some huge runs, 67 yards rushing that killed the jets, something Brady cant do, so it all off sets eachother.

The story is when the Jets offense had the pedal to the metal the Pats D had no answer for us. It would have been a different game.

[afosomf]

You're pretty much saying the game would have played out exactly the same and the Pats would have been in that same exact position.

Maybe Brady does beat us, but how much better could he have played than Cassel? Yes, Cassel missed some easy throws, but he also had some huge runs, 67 yards rushing that killed the jets, something Brady cant do, so it all off sets eachother.

The story is when the Jets offense had the pedal to the metal the Pats D had no answer for us. It would have been a different game.

Jets would have scored points no doubt

would have been a quick game few possessions

i was being sarcastic with blowout comment...Pats D blows with second string

[NIGHT STALKER]

I cannot believe this debate is raging forward. We won the game...who really knows the "what ifs"...it's all hypothetical BS.

We're in the first place...let's enjoy the ride and hope it lasts awhile.

[Garb]

Yah, I'm a Pats fan....but I do truly believe Brady would have won the game. Sure, he's not as mobile as Cassel. That's a given. But Brady has the ability to make a third read. He reads defenses better. He can actually throw left. I'm telling you - Cassel has great difficulty throwing left. I saw wide open receivers on the left side of the field throughout Thursday nites game and Cassel didn't even look that way.

BTW - Cassel can throw the deep ball. He's hot and cold with the accuracy though. The deep routes were covered quite well Thursday. The Jets were giving him the short stuff. He took it. Pats have always been a short passing game team though...until last year with the Moss acquistion.

[faba]

that is like asking if Joe Willie was the QB would the jets have won- live in the present and deal with it.

[nyjfan]

Too many what-if's in this game. Lots of people are saying the Pats would have

won if it hadn't been for the mistakes they made. But what about the Jets? They

made plenty of mistakes that could've added points and taken more time off the

clock. The dropped touchdown is the first mistake and we had to take a FG instead.

The fumble at mid-field where it might have given us a first down was a huge one

late in the game where we could have put the game away. A 3rd down where Favre didn't see an open Leon which made us punt. An interception right through the hands of our safety that he wasn't caught. And the prevent offense & prevent defense late

in the game that pretty much invited the Pats back in to the game by throwing

short and getting lots of YAC. The Jets "should" have put the game away in regulation.

That prevent defense BS you can't do against the Pats because a guy like Wes Welker

will take you right down the field in 3 plays. Which he did along with MC getting room to run. Plus changing how they covered Randy Moss on the very last play of the game

as silly but we shouldn't of been in that situation in the first place.

[billo83]

What if David Harris played in the game? The defense is much better with him in the line up. That's why these what if's are silly. Injuries are part of the game period.

[Blackout]

that is like asking if Joe Willie was the QB would the jets have won- live in the present and deal with it.

joe willie woulda

[Gainzo]

This is why I post at JN.

In the "Could Pennington have won that game" thread the overwhelming sentiment was no freakin' way, but in this thread it's the opposite.

With Brady maybe the Pats would have won but we don't know as the game would have been played differently, etc.

You guys crack me up.

[war ensemble]

Can we please stop with these threads? Seriously, there's no concrete answer so why even bother?

[villain_the_foe]

Yes, Brady would have beaten us. Case closed, if anyone else disagrees they're crazy. That play where Moss was wide open downfield and Cassel threw the ball 3 feet over his head, Brady makes that play to Moss in his sleep & then the game is a different story.

Well then label me crazy. We would have had a chance in this game no matter what. The whole outcome of this game would have been different if Brady would have played. We cant have "situations" that Cassell was in and then replace cassell with brady and then say that we would have won/lost the game. If Brady would have started the game would have been different. Now, how would the defense would have responded would have been at question, same for the offense. But thats an unfair question as well as an unfair response by you Mr. Suck.

example. During the last 1:30 mins in the fourth qtr Mangini would not have called Prevent D with Brady in the pocket. This specifically was to test Cassells playmaking decision. We all know that Brady would have eaten up those yards just like Cassell did. The difference is that we know that Brady would have done it, so we would have played differently. Cassell had to show and prove.

Oh, and if Kellen holds on to the TD that he dropped then the game would have been a different story. What type of nonesense are you talking? You making it sound like Brady has never overthrown a receiver.

[TaborJet]

I think the Pats win with Brady.