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Peter King is a.......reasonable man ?


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I have to admit, I opened MMQ ready to unleash my righteous indignation.....and then he goes all non-patsy* homer on me.....

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/peter_king/11/16/week11/index.html

6. New York Jets (7-3). Every time Leon Washington touches the ball, I lean forward in my seat.

7. New England (6-4). Some clarity on the Matt Cassel free-agency situation: The Patriots have until Feb. 19 to determine whether to place the franchise tag on Cassel, whose contract expires after the season. That gives them three months from today to decide.

Quote of the Week II

"Ty Law now is gonna back off Randy Moss and give him a free release. I don't know about that one.''

-- Cris Collinsworth, on NFL Network's 34-31 New York Jets win over New England on Thursday night, talking with eight seconds left in the fourth quarter, as the Patriots lined up for a fourth-and-one at the Jet 16.

Law had Moss, split wide right, in coverage. Law backed off all the way back near the goal line, didn't bump Moss in the five-yard bump zone like he'd been doing all game, and Moss boxed him out near the goal line to make a great touchdown catch, sending the game to overtime. As Collinsworth presaged, it was a poor decision by the Jets. (Even if Law had played bump with Moss, I bet Cassel would have thrown a fade to Moss in the corner of the end zone, and who knows, he could have caught a jump ball for the tying touchdown too. But I'm with Collinsworth. If the bump slows Moss down long enough to let the rush get to Cassel, it would have been worth it.)

Now, I work with Collinsworth, as you may know. And you could clearly take this as me just supporting my guy. But I can assure it's more than that. Collinsworth had a very good game Thursday night. Did you catch him saying near halftime that the Jets might be smart to take a better cover man, Law, and put him head-up on Jabar Gaffney instead of using Dwight Lowery there, because as long as the Jets were going to keep a safety in place to double Moss downfield, why not use the better cover-corner, Law, in single-coverage, even if it's against a lesser receiver? And that's what the Jets did at the start of the third quarter. Collinsworth does stuff like this two or three times in most games, and Thursday was a classic example.

Quote of the Week III

"That's why I came back.''

-- Brett Favre, in a text message at 1:14 a.m. Friday, following the scintillating win over the Patriots.

The more I get to know players, the more I never, ever wonder why they want to keep playing after the point when most people think they should retire. The game is too much fun. The highs are too exhilarating. And if Favre comes out in January and says, "I think I want to play in 2009,'' I will be the least-surprised person in America.

Offensive Players of the Week

Brett Favre, QB, New York Jets. The numbers don't matter. ( !! no cassel here ? amazing PK) They never matter in classic Favre games. The Jets needed a classic Favre game to slay the Patriots in Foxboro, and they got something better -- a classic, no-mistake game, 26-of-33 (79 percent) with two TDs and no picks. He led the Jets to the winning points on the first drive in overtime, converting a vital third-and-15 with a pass to Dustin Keller. That's the kind of game the Jets brought Favre to New Jersey to win.

Goat of the Week

Ben Watson, TE, New England. Easiest call of the week, and I don't care that Watson came back to score a touchdown later in the game. His huge mistake just after halftime was the most decisive bad play of an important game.

The Patriots, down 24-6 with two minutes left in the first half, drove to score a touchdown just before halftime, and were shredding the Jets' defense with a no-huddle scheme on their first possession of the third quarter. Now, I'd never give a guy the Goat of the Week if he was stripped of the ball. But Watson, getting tackled at the Jet 22 after catching a pass from Matt Cassel, never had the ball touched. He simply dropped it, and the Jets recovered.

Instead of the game being 24-20 with 25 minutes to play and the momentum clearly on New England's side, Watson coughed up this huge chance. The Patriots, despite rolling to a 269-yard second half, never could pass the Jets.

MVP Watch

5. Kris Jenkins, DT, New York Jets. The Jets have allowed foes to rush for a yard less per carry this year than last. The biggest reason they're 7-3, I would argue, is an overhauled run defense, led by new nose man Jenkins.

ten things he thinks he thinks

a. If Jerod Mayo doesn't win the Defensive Rookie of the Year, there shouldn't be an award.

b. Two thoughts on the phantom holding call against Mike Vrabel that led to a late Jets touchdown instead of a late Jets field goal: After the Pittsburgh-Seattle Super Bowl, the league office made a big deal of telling officials to call what you actually see, not what you think must have happened based on the body movements of apparently fouled players; this was a classic case of an official thinking he saw holding instead of actually seeing it. Now, if the call had been illegal contact, seeing that Vrabel's contact was on the border of the five-yard bump zone, you might have been able to live with that.

But don't moan about the call, Pats fans. Had the Jets kicked a field goal to go up 27-24 with 3:30 to play instead of scoring a touchdown there, New England would have kicked the tying field goal with eight seconds left on fourth-and-one from the Jet 16 instead of Matt Cassel throwing the incredible touchdown pass to a diving Randy Moss with a second to play. So instead of going to overtime tied at 31, the teams would have gone there tied at 27.

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Now, I work with Collinsworth, as you may know. And you could clearly take this as me just supporting my guy. But I can assure it's more than that. Collinsworth had a very good game Thursday night. Did you catch him saying near halftime that the Jets might be smart to take a better cover man, Law, and put him head-up on Jabar Gaffney instead of using Dwight Lowery there, because as long as the Jets were going to keep a safety in place to double Moss downfield, why not use the better cover-corner, Law, in single-coverage, even if it's against a lesser receiver? And that's what the Jets did at the start of the third quarter. Collinsworth does stuff like this two or three times in most games, and Thursday was a classic example.

Yes, Collinsworth called this, but it was dead wrong. As soon as the Jets did it, Gaffney went off, so they switched back. No mention of that though.

b. Two thoughts on the phantom holding call against Mike Vrabel that led to a late Jets touchdown instead of a late Jets field goal: After the Pittsburgh-Seattle Super Bowl, the league office made a big deal of telling officials to call what you actually see, not what you think must have happened based on the body movements of apparently fouled players; this was a classic case of an official thinking he saw holding instead of actually seeing it. Now, if the call had been illegal contact, seeing that Vrabel's contact was on the border of the five-yard bump zone, you might have been able to live with that.

But don't moan about the call, Pats fans. Had the Jets kicked a field goal to go up 27-24 with 3:30 to play instead of scoring a touchdown there, New England would have kicked the tying field goal with eight seconds left on fourth-and-one from the Jet 16 instead of Matt Cassel throwing the incredible touchdown pass to a diving Randy Moss with a second to play. So instead of going to overtime tied at 31, the teams would have gone there tied at 27.

It was clearly a penalty. What's the difference if they said Holding or Illegal contact? The penalty is the same in terms of yardage and automatic 1st down.

The point King misses though is if that penalty is not called, there is about 5 minutes to go, not 2:35 or so. The game would have been different.

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You should have read farther down in his column...he's a sneaky SOB. In ranking the dolphins, he's basically saying we will lose on Sunday.

12. Miami (6-4). The Miami Dolphins are hosting the New England Patriots on Sunday, and the winner will either be tied with the Jets for the AFC East lead or have a firm hold on a wild-card berth. Ladies and gentlemen, these are the Miami Dolphins we're talking about. "I don't tell my guys very often,'' Tony Sparano said after Sunday's win over Oakland, "but I'm really proud of them.'' Well, he should be.

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You should have read farther down in his column...he's a sneaky SOB. In ranking the dolphins, he's basically saying we will lose on Sunday.

12. Miami (6-4). The Miami Dolphins are hosting the New England Patriots on Sunday, and the winner will either be tied with the Jets for the AFC East lead or have a firm hold on a wild-card berth. Ladies and gentlemen, these are the Miami Dolphins we're talking about. "I don't tell my guys very often,'' Tony Sparano said after Sunday's win over Oakland, "but I'm really proud of them.'' Well, he should be.

What's wrong with this? he says they'll be tied for the lead OR be in firm handling of a WC.. That's the truth.

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You defending the fat ****? My team (I don't know about your team) isn't losing this Sunday. Peter King can go **** himself.

I don't want to hear about WC's.

Stalker, what Kind said is the winner of the NE game will EITHER be tied with the Jets for first place (if the Jets lose) OR have a firm WC standing in place (if the Jets win). He didn't slight the Jets in that sentence at all. It's the truth, the winner of that game will be 7-4 and definitely in the WC mix. If we lose then they'll definitely be tied for first.

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Stalker, what Kind said is the winner of the NE game will EITHER be tied with the Jets for first place (if the Jets lose) OR have a firm WC standing in place (if the Jets win). He didn't slight the Jets in that sentence at all. It's the truth, the winner of that game will be 7-4 and definitely in the WC mix. If we lose then they'll definitely be tied for first.

Okay, if you want to give the guy the benefit of the doubt that's fine. Another writer who doesn't have an agenda against the Jets I might take it in a positive way and I would understand his point.

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Okay, if you want to give the guy the benefit of the doubt that's fine. Another writer who doesn't have an agenda against the Jets I might take it in a positive way and I would understand his point.

lol, seems like you have a bit of an agenda against the writer. It's a simple statement. I don't like Peter King at all, but that statement is truth.

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lol, seems like you have a bit of an agenda against the writer. It's a simple statement. I don't like Peter King at all, but that statement is truth.

Yes I do and he's right and all of you guys are right...you ever know of someone you just don't like and even though what they say could be right and you just are against him from the get go.

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Why is it that you Boston Pukes have to have nicknames for every player/coach

Lord Favre

The Rat

Tuna

So f-ing gay

it's Fredo, The Rat, Ratgini, Manjudas.....and on occasion, Pizza Face. btw, I could see his zits popping out during the fourth qtr of Thursday nites game. They showed his ugly mug on the jumbotron - he was also chewing gum like a rabbit on crack. The man (er,.... rat) is 'gonna have a heart attack before fifty if he keeps this up.

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You should have read farther down in his column...he's a sneaky SOB. In ranking the dolphins, he's basically saying we will lose on Sunday.

12. Miami (6-4). The Miami Dolphins are hosting the New England Patriots on Sunday, and the winner will either be tied with the Jets for the AFC East lead or have a firm hold on a wild-card berth. Ladies and gentlemen, these are the Miami Dolphins we're talking about. "I don't tell my guys very often,'' Tony Sparano said after Sunday's win over Oakland, "but I'm really proud of them.'' Well, he should be.

He flat out says it earlier in his column. Nothing sneaky about it.

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