Blackout Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 AND ATLEAST 3 SETUP MEN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 and a new bat boy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anskyruben Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 ..and a brain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharrow Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 I could see being hesitant about going and getting an average-borderline starter from the NL for an AL team, but we're talking about a guy who is dominant in the NL. His numbers might not be as good in the AL but they'll still be very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 I could see being hesitant about going and getting an average-borderline starter from the NL for an AL team, but we're talking about a guy who is dominant in the NL. His numbers might not be as good in the AL but they'll still be very good. They are naturally going to slip having to face the DH. However, Peavey is a little more of a buyer beware. San Diego is a ridculouslu friendly pitchers park. The Park Factor is 89 compared to Yankee Stadium's 102. Last Year Peavey had a 1.75 ERA in 14 starts at PETCO and a 4.28 ERA in 13 starts on the road. Plus, he played in a horrible division. His career ERA on the road is a full run higher (2.77 vs 3.80). If you factor in a DH, his numbers go from Halladay to Wakefield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT STALKER Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 They are naturally going to slip having to face the DH. However, Peavey is a little more of a buyer beware. San Diego is a ridculouslu friendly pitchers park. The Park Factor is 89 compared to Yankee Stadium's 102. Last Year Peavey had a 1.75 ERA in 14 starts at PETCO and a 4.28 ERA in 13 starts on the road. Plus, he played in a horrible division. His career ERA on the road is a full run higher (2.77 vs 3.80). If you factor in a DH, his numbers go from Halladay to Wakefield. You also have to factor in that SD hit .250 as a club and barely pushed across 600 RBI's...not much run support. He would do fine on a team like the Yanks who can and will give him that needed run support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 You also have to factor in that SD hit .250 as a club and barely pushed across 600 RBI's...not much run support. He would do fine on a team like the Yanks who can and will give him that needed run support. No doubt. My only point is the team that signs him does not know exactly what they are getting. He could be the guy that put up solid numbers for a small market team waiting to be a star. Or, he could be a guy that is a tad overrated because he pitched in a pitcher friendly park. If he goes to a team that has an offense (i.e. Boston/NY), he will get them 15-17 wins if healthy. I would be more concerned with him getting beaten like a drum in the playoffs. He is a solid pick-up though. It is just a matter if he is a great pick-up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anskyruben Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 Petco also get's a rating as a pithcer's park because the home team can't put up any kind of run production. The road teams have no problem coming in and raking in that ballpark. I still think you're taking a bigger risk by giving Captain Cheeseburger 145 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 If you've started games on a consistent basis, and have had success in the American League, you're an American League pitcher. Johan Santana may have come through the Marlins, and Astros, but they got rid of them before ever giving him a chance. Minnesota signed him, and he became the best pitcher in baseball in the American League. Josh Beckett is an American League pitcher because he's had success in the American League. Lincecum, Peavy, Sheets have not pitched in the American league on a consistant basis. Only what they get out of interleague. Good God this is rubbish There was a time, over a decade ago, that pitchers were actually quantified as "National" League and "American" League TYPE pitchers. NL pitchers, as the quantification went, were more apt to be fastball pitchers. The ballparks, as a whole were more expansive, the umpires were more high ball umps, and the line-ups were built more to pushing runs than power. AL pitchers, as the quantification went, were more apt to be junk ballers. The ball parks were smaller as a whole, the umps were more used to calling low ball strikes, and teh line-ups were built more to power. That all changed. Steroids changed it, teh ballparks changed, the line-ups changed and umpires are now calling games in both leagues. It was a stereotype, and as with all stereotypes, there are exceptions. Your declaration of what an AL or NL pitcher is really quite dumb, and without any basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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