Panzer Division Marduk Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 Mustaine sold out, for the most part, following Rust and Peace. Slowed everything down and relied on his vocals, which I think was pretty good for Countdown to Extinction and terrible since then. After Countdown, they started playing with zero emotion, just boring, in order to go mainstream. I'd say with some confidence that United Abominations has the best riff-work since Rust and Peace. Sounds like it fell between Rust in Peace and Countdown, to be honest. Half is really good, half not so good. What do you expect, it was his whole Metallica obsession kicking in. Metallica made it huge by going mainstream, and Mustaine in his quest to to be bigger than Metallica followed suit. Oh for the days when he was living up to his "state of the art speed metal band" attitude rather than the turgid crap that he's spent the last 15 years doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
war ensemble Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 What do you expect, it was his whole Metallica obsession kicking in. Metallica made it huge by going mainstream, and Mustaine in his quest to to be bigger than Metallica followed suit. Oh for the days when he was living up to his "state of the art speed metal band" attitude rather than the turgid crap that he's spent the last 15 years doing. He started sucking when his attitude changed from "stay faster than Metallica" to "get more popular than Metallica". It's pretty ironic how his fastest stuff is his most popular, and the mainstream stuff is practically ignored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Division Marduk Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 He started sucking when his attitude changed from "stay faster than Metallica" to "get more popular than Metallica". It's pretty ironic how his fastest stuff is his most popular, and the mainstream stuff is practically ignored. Try telling him that. He's as egotistical as Axl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowmoe57 Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 Sitting at work a friend just handed it to me listening for the first time now -- so far so good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted November 28, 2008 Author Share Posted November 28, 2008 A few more things I gotta say 1. The 20 million layers of guitar are just too much. Whatever harmonies and rifts there are in these songs are hard to decipher because of that. 2. The guitar solo in IRS is just bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted December 11, 2008 Author Share Posted December 11, 2008 Alright, I gotta admit, this album sucks when you compare it to real GnR. Otherwise its not bad. Just shouldnt have called this crap GnR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 Just downloaded it... I mean.. bought it Its ok... nothing like the classics... but its ok... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Moses Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 When all is said and done We're not the only ones Who look at life this way That's what the old folks say But every time I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borgoguy Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 I think the record went magnesium alloy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 I think the record went magnesium alloy. LOL....aluminum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Moses Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 I like the song Catcher in the Rye, though. LOL....aluminum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 I don't think I've heard one song played on the radio even once what a dud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 I don't think I've heard one song played on the radio even once what a dud They played Chinese Democracy over here for a little while. Haven't heard it in ages though. Doesn't mean too much, they still have Queen, the Clash and Iggy Pop in heavy rotation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 They played Chinese Democracy over here for a little while. Haven't heard it in ages though. Doesn't mean too much, they still have Queen, the Clash and Iggy Pop in heavy rotation. well, it means it was a dud, and nobody bothers to play it on the radio. I turned 20 when appetite came out and I wore that tape out on my walkman I wish this had been a good album, there haven't been too many the last 10 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.S. Dylan Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 Personally, I don't think you can make a great album if you take as long as Axl did. You can get way too carried away. It almost always ends with a drastic change in sound. I like it best when a band comes out with an album per year but that never happens anymore. Never listened to this new album but I wasn't a big fan of Guns and Roses anyway. Nothin' against them just never got into their music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetscott Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 guns and roses sucks!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 I told everyone it sucked last year and it still does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 Love the album and I think the only really pile of crap on there is "if the world"....sounds like cheesy porn song or James Bond movie soundtrack. "Catcher in the Rye" is the best song on the album, nice triubte to Lennon. At the end of the day though, Axl Rose single handedly ruined what was the best band of this generation. No band in the last 20+ years has had the same impact/success that early GNR enjoyed touring for years straight and playing in front of (I believe) over five million fans world wide. A double album that ranked at #1 and #2 on the billboard charts and one of the best debut albums ever in Appetite. I'll still see them live any chance I get and I enjoy Axl's performing, but the guy is possibly the biggest ego maniac on the planet. Shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Moses Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 Love the album and I think the only really pile of crap on there is "if the world"....sou"Catcher in the Rye" is the best song on the album, nice triubte to Lennon. Chapman wasnt carrying Catcher in the Rye, Hinckley was, so I thought the song was about Ronald Reagan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 Chapman wasnt carrying Catcher in the Rye, Hinckley was, so I thought the song was about Ronald Reagan. I've read countless times that Chapman was standing on the sidewalk outside the Dakota reading CITR when the cops showed up. I also read that was the reason for the title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Moses Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 I've read countless times that Chapman was standing on the sidewalk outside the Dakota reading CITR when the cops showed up. I also read that was the reason for the title. I always thought it was Hinckley. I know Hinckley wrote love letters to Jodi Foster. It's odd that they both had copies of that book. Great book, by the way. Salinger was a member of the Big Red One at Normandy. I think Rod Serling from Twilight Zone was also a D-Day veteran. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 I always thought it was Hinckley. I know Hinckley wrote love letters to Jodi Foster. It's odd that they both had copies of that book. Great book, by the way. Salinger was a member of the Big Red One at Normandy. I think Rod Serling from Twilight Zone was also a D-Day veteran. Chapman is the one who was reading it when the cops came. I think he had Lennon autograph it before he shot him. There's a picture of him with Lennon from the time. I think Hinkley had it at his apartment or hotel room. Some conspiracy nuts say that Sirhan Sirhan read it and scribbled "The Catcher in the Rye says Kennedy must die!" or some such nonsense. I think they claim it's a trigger like the Manchurian Candidate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Moses Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 Chapman is the one who was reading it when the cops came. I think he had Lennon autograph it before he shot him. There's a picture of him with Lennon from the time. I think Hinkley had it at his apartment or hotel room. Some conspiracy nuts say that Sirhan Sirhan read it and scribbled "The Catcher in the Rye says Kennedy must die!" or some such nonsense. I think they claim it's a trigger like the Manchurian Candidate. If you want a read a disturbing book, pick up a copy of AN ASSASSIN'S DIARY it's the actual diary of Arthur Bremer, the lunatic who was stalking Nixon but inevitibly shot Goerge Wallace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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