Do Pats sign Cassell in offseason and ask Brady to retire?

[SouthernJet]

Sounds crazy..

But...

cassel wont sign if Brady coming back..he can start and get big bucks somewhere else..

so if u r Pats, do u sign the young , QB for next 12 years guy?, or let the gimp who may or may not still have it come back?

What will evil Bill do?

I think he asks Brady to retire...

[PFSIKH]

Sounds crazy..

But...

cassel wont sign if Brady coming back..he can start and get big bucks somewhere else..

so if u r Pats, do u sign the young , QB for next 12 years guy?, or let the gimp who may or may not still have it come back?

What will evil Bill do?

I think he asks Brady to retire...

Are you taking your meds?

Ask a guy that is 31 to retire? Ok.

Barring setback, Cassel will get his money somewhere else.

[serphnx]

Are you taking your meds?

Ask a guy that is 31 to retire? Ok.

Barring setback, Cassel will get his money somewhere else.

I've read reports that he won't be completely healthy until he's 33, and he has interests outside of football anyway. It's not as far-fetched as you may think.

[SouthernJet]

I've read reports that he won't be completely healthy until he's 33, and he has interests outside of football anyway. It's not as far-fetched as you may think.

Thank u..

u know this is being discussed in the top towers of the evil castle in boston as we speak

[madmike1]

They will get Cindy back under center but it won't matter. That team isn't very good no matter who the QB is.

[Garb]

Thank u..

u know this is being discussed in the top towers of the evil castle in boston as we speak

Woudln't it be cool for Brady to have a tearful press conference and give his retirement speech only to change his mind and have ESPN fight his battles for him and people would start calling him Lord Brady while others will just think he's a dooshie? Yah, I think it's 'gonna happen too. I mean, Capers was supposed to be the head coach after BB was suspended for a year.

SJ - btw, it's called "franchising a player." That is what the Pats will do. They will get a first round pick from some silly team. Pats will have two first rounders - which should help shore up the secondary woes. I hope.

[34st GANG]

I've read reports that he won't be completely healthy until he's 33, and he has interests outside of football anyway. It's not as far-fetched as you may think.

If it ever came to that I say Belly retires and lets the next guy make the choice.

[flgreen]

No way

Brady will be back. he wasn't a scrambling type QB, and he is still young by QB standards.

If the weasel asks him to retire I suspect Brady will show him his middle finger.

NE will find a way to franchise Cassel and try to trade him. I suspect he will get quite a bit for him.

[SouthernJet]

Woudln't it be cool for Brady to have a tearful press conference and give his retirement speech only to change his mind and have ESPN fight his battles for him and people would start calling him Lord Brady while others will just think he's a dooshie? Yah, I think it's 'gonna happen too. I mean, Capers was supposed to be the head coach after BB was suspended for a year.

you uncovered the evil bellys plan..

have brady retire, sign cassell to long term deal, then have brady unretire and sign him,,

ya, i can see belly screwing cassell like that

[Garb]

you uncovered the evil bellys plan..

have brady retire, sign cassell to long term deal, then have brady unretire and sign him,,

ya, i can see belly screwing cassell like that

Screwing Cassel? Cassel will owe his CAREER to BB. He'll be making the big bucks as a starter somewhere and he has no one to thank but BB who was the only man who stuck by him. Not bad for a kid that hadn't started a game since HS.

[SouthernJet]

Screwing Cassel? Cassel will owe his CAREER to BB. He'll be making the big bucks as a starter somewhere and he has no one to thank but BB who was the only man who stuck by him. Not bad for a kid that hadn't started a game since HS.

reread my post,,,if above happens it is truly a screwing

[serphnx]

Woudln't it be cool for Brady to have a tearful press conference and give his retirement speech only to change his mind and have ESPN fight his battles for him and people would start calling him Lord Brady while others will just think he's a dooshie? Yah, I think it's 'gonna happen too. I mean, Capers was supposed to be the head coach after BB was suspended for a year.

SJ - btw, it's called "franchising a player." That is what the Pats will do. They will get a first round pick from some silly team. Pats will have two first rounders - which should help shore up the secondary woes. I hope.

If that happened, we'd trade you a pick that can go as high as the 1st round for Brady, and then win the division.

[NYSE]

Woudln't it be cool for Brady to have a tearful press conference and give his retirement speech only to change his mind and have ESPN fight his battles for him and people would start calling him Lord Brady while others will just think he's a dooshie? Yah, I think it's 'gonna happen too. I mean, Capers was supposed to be the head coach after BB was suspended for a year.

SJ - btw, it's called "franchising a player." That is what the Pats will do. They will get a first round pick from some silly team. Pats will have two first rounders - which should help shore up the secondary woes. I hope.

Do you really think Pioli's going to pay $14.5 million to a backup QB? He's a great insurance policy but if there's one thing the Pats have learned is that quality QB's can be found and made.

[PFSIKH]

They will get Cindy back under center but it won't matter. That team isn't very good no matter who the QB is.

How is Phil Hughes doing?

I've read reports that he won't be completely healthy until he's 33, and he has interests outside of football anyway. It's not as far-fetched as you may think.

I do not see him hanging on like Brett. If you watched the video that circulated here, you know two things. One, he still has a desire to play football and that he thinks there is something else to life.

With that in mind, I would say he leaves the game in about 5 years.

[Garb]

Do you really think Pioli's going to pay $14.5 million to a backup QB? He's a great insurance policy but if there's one thing the Pats have learned is that quality QB's can be found and made.

yes if the intention is to trade him.

[SMC]

I would be ecstatic if that happens.

[PFSIKH]

Do you really think Pioli's going to pay $14.5 million to a backup QB? He's a great insurance policy but if there's one thing the Pats have learned is that quality QB's can be found and made.

If you have time.

[Boozer76]

Woudln't it be cool for Brady to have a tearful press conference and give his retirement speech only to change his mind and have ESPN fight his battles for him and people would start calling him Lord Brady while others will just think he's a dooshie? Yah, I think it's 'gonna happen too. I mean, Capers was supposed to be the head coach after BB was suspended for a year.

SJ - btw, it's called "franchising a player." That is what the Pats will do. They will get a first round pick from some silly team. Pats will have two first rounders - which should help shore up the secondary woes. I hope.

You seemingly forget that the league has made it very clear that they will not allow teams to franchise a player with the sole intent to trade him. There is no way that NE will be able to make a case that they franchised him with intent to keep him. None. Unless of course Goodell caves to NE's every will again.

[PFSIKH]

You seemingly forget that the league has made it very clear that they will not allow teams to franchise a player with the sole intent to trade him. There is no way that NE will be able to make a case that they franchised him with intent to keep him. None. Unless of course Goodell caves to NE's every will again.

I do not think they franchise, but they can make a case.

"Roger, we franchised him due to Tom's injury. We did not know how he would react to the injury until he started TC. Look at Carlson Palmer and any other number of QBs. Once, Tom showed he would still be the Hall of Fame QB, we sought to trade Matt."

[Garb]

They will get favorable picks for Cassel next season in a trade that happens because he was franchised. There are a few desperate teams out there in dire need of a QB and they will give up the pick(s) to get him. Thank Gawd too. They need defense.

[Boozer76]

They will get favorable picks for Cassel next season in a trade that happens because he was franchised. There are a few desperate teams out there in dire need of a QB and they will give up the pick(s) to get him. Thank Gawd too. They need defense.

Read my last post Garb, they won't get away with franchising him.

[madmike1]

How is Phil Hughes doing?

He's fine troll. Enjoying 2nd place?

[Boozer76]

I do not think they franchise, but they can make a case.

"Roger, we franchised him due to Tom's injury. We did not know how he would react to the injury until he started TC. Look at Carlson Palmer and any other number of QBs. Once, Tom showed he would still be the Hall of Fame QB, we sought to trade Matt."

The league instilled this rule for this exact situation. If they let NE franchise and trade they are simply making a mockery of the game and exposing themselves as puppets.

[SouthernJet]

They will get favorable picks for Cassel next season in a trade that happens because he was franchised. There are a few desperate teams out there in dire need of a QB and they will give up the pick(s) to get him. Thank Gawd too. They need defense.

I think Brady retires,,seriously,,so we need to get used to seeing cassell as a Pat

[Garb]

Read my last post Garb, they won't get away with franchising him.

Yah they will. Brady won' be "ready" to play by the franchise deadline.

So what you're saying is the league is going to say who you can play, regardless of health? That's a fight the league can't win.

[PFSIKH]

He's fine troll. Enjoying 2nd place?

Enjoy your Superbowl win or that stirring Rutgers win over Army?

The league instilled this rule for this exact situation. If they let NE franchise and trade they are simply making a mockery of the game and exposing themselves as puppets.

Maybe, but the Patriots can use the Brady injury as a measure to keep Cassel as an insurance policy.

That is why they should sign him, if he agrees, to a one year contract.

[madmike1]

Enjoy your Superbowl win or that stirring Rutgers win over Army?

I'm enjoying a legit 8-3 team with no cheating and a college team that has completely turned it's season around from a joke to making a good bowl.

[Jared]

Option 2: Patriots sign a long term deal with Cassel that rather than a signing bonus, includes a roster bonus set for the start of training camp.

This would give the Patriots plenty of time to trade or cut him, and if they don't, he gets paid before the serious work starts (the kind that could lead to an accidental injury). If they trade him, he already has a long term contract in place with minimal/no cap hit to the Patriots. Or a team could trade with him contingent on renegotiation.

Either way, there are ways around this that can make it amicable to all parties.

Also, I think "our starting QB is coming off a season ending injury" is a pretty good reason to franchise your backup QB.

[SouthernJet]

Maybe, but the Patriots can use the Brady injury as a measure to keep Cassel as an insurance policy.

That is why they should sign him, if he agrees, to a one year contract.

why would he sign a freakin 1 year deal,,he is hot now and can strike it rich,, he signs a 1 year deal, 3 things can happen and 2 are bad.,,,he can start and do great and make big money after season, he can start , suck and lose the windfall he had comin this year, he can sit behind brady and have his stock drop..

[SouthernJet]

Option 2: Patriots sign a long term deal with Cassel that rather than a signing bonus, includes a roster bonus set for the start of training camp.

This would give the Patriots plenty of time to trade or cut him, and if they don't, he gets paid before the serious work starts (the kind that could lead to an accidental injury). If they trade him, he already has a long term contract in place with minimal/no cap hit to the Patriots. Or a team could trade with him contingent on renegotiation.

Either way, there are ways around this that can make it amicable to all parties.

Also, I think "our starting QB is coming off a season ending injury" is a pretty good reason to franchise your backup QB.

cause his agent will tell him dont sign,,u can make more money on open market than a trade

[PatriotReign37]

I say trade Brady and Cassel. Theyre system QB's anyway.

NE would have 3 - 1st round picks. Then, start OConnel whose supposed to be better than Cassel anyway.

[serphnx]

I say trade Brady and Cassel. Theyre system QB's anyway.

NE would have 3 - 1st round picks. Then, start OConnel whose supposed to be better than Cassel anyway.

He is. The guy is a beast, I watched him play when I was in San Diego.

[PFSIKH]

Option 2: Patriots sign a long term deal with Cassel that rather than a signing bonus, includes a roster bonus set for the start of training camp.

This would give the Patriots plenty of time to trade or cut him, and if they don't, he gets paid before the serious work starts (the kind that could lead to an accidental injury). If they trade him, he already has a long term contract in place with minimal/no cap hit to the Patriots. Or a team could trade with him contingent on renegotiation.

Either way, there are ways around this that can make it amicable to all parties.

Also, I think "our starting QB is coming off a season ending injury" is a pretty good reason to franchise your backup QB.

Exactly.

I'm enjoying a legit 8-3 team with no cheating and a college team that has completely turned it's season around from a joke to making a good bowl.

8-3 is nice, but it does not mean **** unless you win that big game at the end.

Define good bowl?

why would he sign a freakin 1 year deal,,he is hot now and can strike it rich,, he signs a 1 year deal, 3 things can happen and 2 are bad.,,,he can start and do great and make big money after season, he can start , suck and lose the windfall he had comin this year, he can sit behind brady and have his stock drop..

Very true. It is obvious that Cassel has to be willing and the Patriots cannot use the vet minimum. It is possible. It is highly unlikely and Cassel would be wise to let them franchise him or walk.

[madmike1]

8-3 is nice, but it does not mean **** unless you win that big game at the end.

Define good bowl?

8-3 legitimately is better than anything the cheaters have done since the head fraud took over as their coach.

Look up what bowl they are going to yourself. I'm done feeding the trolls.

[PatriotReign37]

The league instilled this rule for this exact situation. If they let NE franchise and trade they are simply making a mockery of the game and exposing themselves as puppets.

Kinda like when the Jets tamper every off season?

I mean, there are people who wait on this board for 12:00 AM to strike just to see who gets signed in the first minute of FA.