With respect for Favre's arm teams dont stack the box anymore against us

[SouthernJet]

as opposed to opposing teams NOT respecting Chads deep threat..

from ESPN:

"The New York Jets are on pace to shatter their 40-year-old franchise record for most points scored in a season.

Through 11 games, the Jets have amassed 323 points for an average of 29.4 a game. They are on pace to score 470 points.

"If you're a defensive coordinator, you're scratching your head, saying 'What do I do?' " Jets quarterback Brett Favre said Wednesday.

"We're going to run it until you stop it, but we'll also mix in the quick-passing game, screens and things like that. You can't just commit to the box, you have to commit to the receivers as well."

[Boynton Beach Jets]

as opposed to opposing teams NOT respecting Chads deep threat..

from ESPN:

"The New York Jets are on pace to shatter their 40-year-old franchise record for most points scored in a season.

Through 11 games, the Jets have amassed 323 points for an average of 29.4 a game. They are on pace to score 470 points.

"If you're a defensive coordinator, you're scratching your head, saying 'What do I do?' " Jets quarterback Brett Favre said Wednesday.

"We're going to run it until you stop it, but we'll also mix in the quick-passing game, screens and things like that. You can't just commit to the box, you have to commit to the receivers as well."

Amazing how he can make both the OL and running game better. Yes the OL is significantley better, but having Favre upgrades the whole offense to the next degree.

[rillo]

Amazing how he can make both the OL and running game better. Yes the OL is significantley better, but having Favre upgrades the whole offense to the next degree.

Agreed....

[KINGDIRK]

Were running the same offense we did with Chad. Except that we have a better running game. That combined with the threat of Farve's arm = defenses cannot stack up 8 in the box.

[Darth Vader]

The titans committed 8 in the box a t times.

On Leon's run actually they had 8.

We left one unblocked and ran away from that guy.

[Darth Vader]

Were running the same offense we did with Chad. Except that we have a better running game. That combined with the threat of Farve's arm = defenses cannot stack up 8 in the box.

No our offense now is different. More Favrean.

[SouthernJet]

Were running the same offense we did with Chad. Except that we have a better running game. That combined with the threat of Farve's arm = defenses cannot stack up 8 in the box.

we have a BINGO

[Sharrow]

...and Favre gives the receivers a much better chance after the catch because of how much faster he gets the ball to them on the quick routes. Chad's quick routes weren't so quick.

[RoadFan]

Were running the same offense we did with Chad. Except that we have a better running game. That combined with the threat of Farve's arm = defenses cannot stack up 8 in the box.

I completely disagree. Watch the Packers play....we are running a very similar offense. The Jets adjusted to Favre, not the other way around.

[Irish Jet]

We still don't have much of a downfield passing game because Favre is not a great downfield thrower. He's not bad but he's not nearly as good as some make him out to be in that regard. He's one of the best short passing QB's of all time and he has been showing that ability off over the last 4 weeks. I like the way we've adjusted our offense to him, the plays that are designed runs which Favre then pulls up and throws are just awesome.

[Matt39]

We still don't have much of a downfield passing game because Favre is not a great downfield thrower. He's not bad but he's not nearly as good as some make him out to be in that regard. He's one of the best short passing QB's of all time and he has been showing that ability off over the last 4 weeks. I like the way we've adjusted our offense to him, the plays that are designed runs which Favre then pulls up and throws are just awesome.

Nice post. You're absolutely right...I think a lot of people were expecting Favre to be like Vinny was for us in 98...with those 20-25 yard throws down the middle of the field. That's not Favre's strength. He's definitely capable of it if given, but those short quick strikes is where he really excells.

[serphnx]

We still don't have much of a downfield passing game because Favre is not a great downfield thrower. He's not bad but he's not nearly as good as some make him out to be in that regard. He's one of the best short passing QB's of all time and he has been showing that ability off over the last 4 weeks. I like the way we've adjusted our offense to him, the plays that are designed runs which Favre then pulls up and throws are just awesome.

That's not true, Favre is very good at the deep passing game too. It's just our WRs don't get separation anyway, so there's really not many opportunities for it. But he's thrown deep to Cotchery plenty of times, and Cotch has come up with a few.

Favre's greatness lies in the slant. He can hit a WR perfectly in stride in the tightest of windows. Actually pretty much every Favre pass has a very tight window. That's why you can't really call it a dink and dunk, it's far different than Chad's crap. That's why I always said a guy with an arm can execute the dink and dunk better than a guy without it. There is nothing Chad does that Favre doesn't do better.

[Irish Jet]

That's not true, Favre is very good at the deep passing game too. It's just our WRs don't get separation anyway, so there's really not many opportunities for it. But he's thrown deep to Cotchery plenty of times, and Cotch has come up with a few.

Favre's greatness lies in the slant. He can hit a WR perfectly in stride in the tightest of windows. Actually pretty much every Favre pass has a very tight window. That's why you can't really call it a dink and dunk, it's far different than Chad's crap. That's why I always said a guy with an arm can execute the dink and dunk better than a guy without it. There is nothing Chad does that Favre doesn't do better.

I know he has the arm to do it and he's a good downfield passer just not the great one some people think he is. It's never been his strength, he can do it but he's much, much more comfortable with a quick passing game. That was the case in Green Bay and it's the same here.

[RoadFan]

That's not true, he's thrown deep to Cotchery plenty of times, and Cotch has come up with a few.

Favre's greatness lies in the slant. He can hit a WR perfectly in stride in the tightest of windows. That's why you can't really call it a dink and dunk, it's far different than Chad's crap.

Smart man.

[Thai Jet]

as opposed to opposing teams NOT respecting Chads deep threat..

from ESPN:

"The New York Jets are on pace to shatter their 40-year-old franchise record for most points scored in a season.

Through 11 games, the Jets have amassed 323 points for an average of 29.4 a game. They are on pace to score 470 points.

"If you're a defensive coordinator, you're scratching your head, saying 'What do I do?' " Jets quarterback Brett Favre said Wednesday.

"We're going to run it until you stop it, but we'll also mix in the quick-passing game, screens and things like that. You can't just commit to the box, you have to commit to the receivers as well."

Many of us, myself included, have been mentioning this for months. Favre changes EVERYTHING with the offense. It's helped Thomas Jones have huge gains , opened up the underneath and crossing routs, screens etc. No more 2 runs then a 5 yard pass on 3rd and 7. Favre can and will strike from anywhere in any manner.

[Pragmatic Bus]

We still don't have much of a downfield passing game because Favre is not a great downfield thrower. He's not bad but he's not nearly as good as some make him out to be in that regard. He's one of the best short passing QB's of all time and he has been showing that ability off over the last 4 weeks. I like the way we've adjusted our offense to him, the plays that are designed runs which Favre then pulls up and throws are just awesome.

you are wrong. again!

[Thai Jet]

I know he has the arm to do it and he's a good downfield passer just not the great one some people think he is. It's never been his strength, he can do it but he's much, much more comfortable with a quick passing game. That was the case in Green Bay and it's the same here.

Just the thought of his arm going long is enough to keep the defenses honest. With Chad you KNEW he wasn't throwing the bomb, EVER .

[Thai Jet]

you are wrong. again!

Any specifics ?

[Pragmatic Bus]

Any specifics ?

you have to see it yourself

UnxN-oSaMWo

[Pragmatic Bus]

they dont call him gunslinger for nothing

kWpoI9A4qY4

[Pragmatic Bus]

joe namath was the best long ball thrower but brett is right behind him

[nyjfan]

Favre has an pretty darn good deep ball. Watch his highlights and you'll see a ton

of them.

[nyjfan]

Here's a few of em from last year...pretty sweet:

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8060e4f6

[serphnx]

Yeah seriously I don't get this "Favre isn't good with the deep ball" nonsense. He's one of the better deep ball QBs in the league. Favre is just good at everything, that's why he's arguably in the top 5 for QBs of all time.

[L.S. Dylan]

Favre can obviously throw the deep ball but I agree with IrishJet. He's lost a bit on his deep ball, it's expected with getting older. Last week Romo made a deep throw to TO where TO had to speed up, and Romo made it look easy. I saw that and just said to myself that Favre can't do that, with that much ease, anymore. I hate Romo but I'm just using that as an example.

[Irish Jet]

LOL, I said he's good at the deep ball. I'm just pointing out that he's not as great as people make out with his strong arm. His strength has ALWAYS been the short passing game. Always!

It's easy to point out all of the great TD's passes he's thrown downfield. But you'll notice that the vast majority of his picks have came throwing the ball downfield. Again this is not a knock on Favre's ability as a QB, he's one of the best short/intermediate passers in the game. But in the NFL right now he doesn't throw a deep ball with the same effectiveness that you'd see out've a Drew Brees, Peyton Manning or Kurt Warner.

[Larz]

I don't care if favre throws laterals as long as we avg 30 pts a game

[aec4]

Amazing how he can make both the OL and running game better. Yes the OL is significantley better, but having Favre upgrades the whole offense to the next degree.

A top quality QB does that.

Favre is running the short passing game, BUT Favre has the arm to fit the ball into tight spots.

[Verde]

they dont call him gunslinger for nothing

kWpoI9A4qY4

That song is gay.

[Pragmatic Bus]

That song is gay.

thanx for letting me know. i'll go shoot the guy who made this video right now.

how dare he put gay music in his video.

[aec4]

LOL, I said he's good at the deep ball. I'm just pointing out that he's not as great as people make out with his strong arm. His strength has ALWAYS been the short passing game. Always!

It's easy to point out all of the great TD's passes he's thrown downfield. But you'll notice that the vast majority of his picks have came throwing the ball downfield. Again this is not a knock on Favre's ability as a QB, he's one of the best short/intermediate passers in the game. But in the NFL right now he doesn't throw a deep ball with the same effectiveness that you'd see out've a Drew Brees, Peyton Manning or Kurt Warner.

Kurt Warner? Deep Ball? in the same sentence? Kurt Warner made his name on perfect timing and throwing a ball that was so perfectly accurate, some of the best WRs in the game can catch the rock and keep running. He doesn't throw a bad deep ball, but come on..

[Pragmatic Bus]

Kurt Warner? Deep Ball? in the same sentence? Kurt Warner made his name on perfect timing and throwing a ball that was so perfectly accurate, some of the best WRs in the game can catch the rock and keep running. He doesn't throw a bad deep ball, but come on..

arguing with IJ is like arguing with a 17 year old. wait! NM...

[jack48]

...and Favre gives the receivers a much better chance after the catch because of how much faster he gets the ball to them on the quick routes. Chad's quick routes weren't so quick.

Exactly.....he hits them in stride too so they don't get killed.

[Irish Jet]

Kurt Warner? Deep Ball? in the same sentence? Kurt Warner made his name on perfect timing and throwing a ball that was so perfectly accurate, some of the best WRs in the game can catch the rock and keep running. He doesn't throw a bad deep ball, but come on..

I'd love to compare what Warner has done with passes that go over 30+ yards to what Favre has done this season over 30+ yards.

[aec4]

I'd love to compare what Warner has done with passes that go over 30+ yards to what Favre has done this season over 30+ yards.

Go for it, because nowhere did I say Warner > Favre or Warner < Favre, so it would be pointless.

What I did say is Warner is not this great over the top deep ball thrower either. Look at the 2 he threw last night. 1 was a pick, the other Fitzgerald caught a ball way underthrown.

What Favre is good at is hitting a slanter in perfect stride so they can keep going. I'm curious to know how he does was balls thrown OVER 30 yds in the AIR if you are going to do this comparison.