anskyruben 26,727 #36 Posted December 8, 2008 Sutton shouldn't be allowed in, just for that ridiculous perm he walks around sportin... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bob 158,598 #37 Posted December 8, 2008 If the poll was "should he," I'd have voted yes. Since it's "will he," I voted no. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gainzo 147,142 #38 Posted December 9, 2008 If the poll was "should he," I'd have voted yes. Since it's "will he," I voted no. I voted the same way. I wasn't around for Rice's dominating years in the 70's and early 80's but have heard and read plenty about them. The Baseball Writers of America are spiteful pricks. Rice is still a little on the abrasive side but what does that have to do with his performance on the diamond? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anskyruben 26,727 #39 Posted December 9, 2008 You either belong in the HOF or you don't. If you have to sit and have a discussion about it , he doesn't. He never won anything. He loses again at this. /thread Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gainzo 147,142 #40 Posted December 9, 2008 You either belong in the HOF or you don't. If you have to sit and have a discussion about it , he doesn't. He never won anything. He loses again at this. /thread I didn't realize that Rice played all 9 positions on the field. That argument is beyond weak. Apart from the NBA, MLB is a sport driven by individual stats. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anskyruben 26,727 #41 Posted December 9, 2008 I didn't realize that Rice played all 9 positions on the field. That argument is beyond weak. Apart from the NBA, MLB is a sport driven by individual stats. Negatory. If you have to sit and make an argument for a guy to be in the HOF, he doesn't belong. Plain and simple. It doesn't matter if he was your childhood idol or not. The Red Sux of that era and those before were a bunch of choke artists. Whether you like it or not, that affects how people see them. It's a well deserved perception. Andre dawson belongs in the HOF way before Rice. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gainzo 147,142 #42 Posted December 9, 2008 Negatory. If you have to sit and make an argument for a guy to be in the HOF, he doesn't belong. Plain and simple. It doesn't matter if he was your childhood idol or not. The Red Sux of that era and those before were a bunch of choke artists. Whether you like it or not, that affects how people see them. It's a well deserved perception. Andre dawson belongs in the HOF way before Rice. The only reason there is an argument is because of the Baseball Writers of America disdain for the way Rice treated them. Why the media vote for the HOF is beyond me. Rice received 72% of the vote last year. 75% gets him in. Your argument is beyond weak. If the Red Sox were choke artists then what were Dawson's Expos and Cubs teams? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anskyruben 26,727 #43 Posted December 10, 2008 Compare Dawson's numbers to Fried Rice. Dawson was a more dominant player in his league. The fact that Rice is even mentioned in the same breath as HOF is laughable. Are you going to induct Abreu too when he retires ? Pathetic. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maxman 538,644 #44 Posted December 10, 2008 I didn't realize that Rice played all 9 positions on the field. That argument is beyond weak. Apart from the NBA, MLB is a sport driven by individual stats. Which is why he isn't in. His stats aren't good enough. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gainzo 147,142 #45 Posted December 10, 2008 Compare Dawson's numbers to Fried Rice. Dawson was a more dominant player in his league. The fact that Rice is even mentioned in the same breath as HOF is laughable. Are you going to induct Abreu too when he retires ? Pathetic. Are you serious? Dawson played 5 more seasons than Rice and pretty much sucked later in his career. He also played at Wrigley Field for 5 years. Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't your argument based on Rice having no rings and playing at Fenway? You are losing this argument. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bugg 44,579 #46 Posted December 19, 2008 Joe Posnanski- http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/ Walks and Fumbles I was reading this fine Christopher D. Green article on Baseball Analysts about Jim Rice and the Hall of Fame, it really clicked something for me, something I Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anskyruben 26,727 #47 Posted December 19, 2008 Cliff notes or bye bye. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bergen Jet 75,942 #48 Posted December 19, 2008 Will he make it? I don't know. Should he make it? No questions asked. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PFSIKH 101,506 #49 Posted December 19, 2008 Cliff notes or bye bye. Word. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites