faba Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 Army football coach Stan Brock fired 1 hour, 4 minutes ago WEST POINT, N.Y. (AP) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 Army football coach Stan Brock fired 1 hour, 4 minutes ago WEST POINT, N.Y. (AP) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uart Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 Maybe they can hire an assistant away from Navy? I like how they switched to an option offense. They can't compete with even I-AA schools when it comes to the size of their linemen, so they will always be at a disadvantage trying to protect a pocket-qb. Nonetheless, their execution of the option was not nearly as creative as what Navy has done in recent years with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uart Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 A recipe for success. It is a nearly impossible situation with an administration stuck in the past and with a limited recruitment target. What does "an administration stuck in the past" mean? The recruiting is limited though: 1) They can only recruit players who are willing to serve in the Army after school. 2) They can't ever recruit a 300-pound lineman. Ever. The Army won't allow you to be that heavy. So they recruit smaller linemen, and they pick up the guys who are willing to join the Army, which doesn't include many future pros. The Navy has a similar problem, although, I am sure that the prospect of riding around on a boat for 4 years or even flying jets around, is more appealing than getting your boots in the sand in Baghdad to most of these kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor99 Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 Sweet. Our next defensive coordinator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted December 12, 2008 Author Share Posted December 12, 2008 Sweet. Our next defensive coordinator. How can Navy compete and Army always stink-there has to be some reasons behind this seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 How can Navy compete and Army always stink-there has to be some reasons behind this seriously. One advantage the Navy and Air Force has is they can sell the pilot aspect of being in those services. What does "an administration stuck in the past" mean? The recruiting is limited though: 1) They can only recruit players who are willing to serve in the Army after school. 2) They can't ever recruit a 300-pound lineman. Ever. The Army won't allow you to be that heavy. So they recruit smaller linemen, and they pick up the guys who are willing to join the Army, which doesn't include many future pros. The Navy has a similar problem, although, I am sure that the prospect of riding around on a boat for 4 years or even flying jets around, is more appealing than getting your boots in the sand in Baghdad to most of these kids. There are some big dudes in the Army. If you can pass the PT test and tape test, you can be over their weight limit. I know at least two guys that push 270. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT STALKER Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 One advantage the Navy and Air Force has is they can sell the pilot aspect of being in those services. There are some big dudes in the Army. If you can pass the PT test and tape test, you can be over their weight limit. I know at least two guys that push 270. PFSIKH, uart nailed it with this..."I am sure that the prospect of riding around on a boat for 4 years or even flying jets around, is more appealing than getting your boots in the sand in Baghdad to most of these kids." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uart Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 One advantage the Navy and Air Force has is they can sell the pilot aspect of being in those services. It's not just that, but in the Air Force or Navy you can get yourself into a relatively safe spot, even if you're deployed. If you're on an aircraft carrier offshore, even working as a air traffic controller or something, you're not worrying about IEDs every day. At West Point, you have options like that too, in theory, but the default, if you aren't at the top of your class, is infantry lieutenant -- boots on the ground, mortars incoming, and IEDs all over the place. Not to say that the Navy is "easier," it's just an easier sell. Same with the Air Force. There are some big dudes in the Army. If you can pass the PT test and tape test, you can be over their weight limit. I know at least two guys that push 270. True, but it makes recruiting the monsters a lot tougher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uart Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 Army's best hope for recruiting was that rule that would've allowed some kids to go pro and serve their commitment as recruiters in the reserves. Too bad the Pentagon killed that one. Oh well. The primary mission of the USMA is not to play football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 It's not just that, but in the Air Force or Navy you can get yourself into a relatively safe spot, even if you're deployed. If you're on an aircraft carrier offshore, even working as a air traffic controller or something, you're not worrying about IEDs every day. At West Point, you have options like that too, in theory, but the default, if you aren't at the top of your class, is infantry lieutenant -- boots on the ground, mortars incoming, and IEDs all over the place. Not to say that the Navy is "easier," it's just an easier sell. Same with the Air Force. True, but it makes recruiting the monsters a lot tougher. Trust me I know. We actually had some Navy embeds with us last time, they were rare exceptions. We had Air Force, but they didn't do $hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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