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Could be the Bronx Zoo part two...or beantown would :blowup:

SI.com's Jon Heyman says the Yankees aren't optimistic about signing Mark Teixeira, and "seem ready to pounce for Manny Ramirez." He says the Yankees "love the idea of Manny."

Heyman notes that Teixeira signing with the Red Sox would be ideal for Manny and Scott Boras, since Boston is not a possibility for Ramirez. The Angels might have heightened interest in Manny if they are unable to sign Tex.

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12/17/08 7:10 AM EST

Yankees could shift focus to Manny

Club reportedly could offer slugger three-year deal

MLB.com

Having already bolstered their rotation with the signings of free-agent starters CC Sabathia and A.J. Burnett, the Yankees may spare no expense to give Alex Rodriguez a superstar partner in the lineup.

The New York Daily News cites a baseball official in its Wednesday editions who says that the Yankees view mercurial free-agent slugger Manny Ramirez as a perfect complement to Rodriguez, much the way Ramirez and David Ortiz terrorized pitchers for the Red Sox. The official believes that the Yankees are "going hard" to sign Ramirez, to the point that they could offer him a three-year deal worth $22-25 million annually.

Two other officials indicate to the News that the Yankees would jump in right away on Ramirez, preferring to watch the market develop in the hopes they could sign him for two years rather than three.

The News also cites a source close to the Yankees, who says that general manager Brian Cashman is lukewarm on Ramirez, but that the front office in general, including Hal and Hank Steinbrenner, is bullish on the left fielder.

Ramirez is widely considered to be among the two most coveted free-agent, along with fellow Scott Boras client Mark Teixeira. Given that Teixeira will be just 29 years old in May and is a Gold Glove-caliber first baseman, he will likely command a longer contract than Ramirez, who is 36. Therefore, it could be that Ramirez and Boras will wait for Teixeira to pick a team, allowing them to negotiate with teams who missed on Teixeira and need a fallback option.

If Teixeira picks the Angels, then the Orioles and Nationals -- who were hoping to land the Maryland native -- may decide not to bid on Ramirez, to whom they have no ties. Considering that Boston is not an option for Ramirez, the Yankees would only have to outbid the Dodgers for the slugger's services.

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The Yankees will sign Manny. I am happy that they will. Manny will be more than happy to put on the pinstripes. Like I have said many times, he will be on a mission to make Beanfart look like idiots for getting rid of him. Sign him NOW.

If the Angels don't sign Teixeira, they will go hard after Manny...they need a bat in their lineup as bad as the Yanks.

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The Yankees will sign Manny. I am happy that they will. Manny will be more than happy to put on the pinstripes. Like I have said many times, he will be on a mission to make Beanfart look like idiots for getting rid of him. Sign him NOW.

Manny stopped playing for Boston in trying to force them to agree to NOT pick up his option. The guy was faking injuries, not running out balls and refused to take the bat off his shoulders in a AB against the Yankees while taking 3 called strikes. How do you translate that into Boston are idiots for getting rid of him?

At any rate the Yanks likely need a trade to make room for him.

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The Red Sux are NOT a better team without him. Make all the excuses you want. It doesn't compute.

Let's ignore the fact that the team averaged more run per game without Manny.

Short of A-Rod or Pujols, the Sox are not going to replace Manny's bat. So they lose a .300-30HR-100RBI guy. Big Papi loses protection in the batting order. The can get a guy that can hit for average. Or one that can hit for power, but few hit for that much power ot has the ability to hit for that high of an average. The Sox are clearly not as good.

However, they do not have a guy that is acting like an ass and under performing. Their club house will be better and easier for the players. Terry Francona's job is a little easier as well. No more questions about Manny.

The Sox are not better, but with Papi's status not known. They probably need to start spreading that wealth to compensate for Manny departure, Papi's regression and Tek's invisible bat.

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Let's ignore the fact that the team averaged more run per game without Manny.

Short of A-Rod or Pujols, the Sox are not going to replace Manny's bat. So they lose a .300-30HR-100RBI guy. Big Papi loses protection in the batting order. The can get a guy that can hit for average. Or one that can hit for power, but few hit for that much power ot has the ability to hit for that high of an average. The Sox are clearly not as good.

However, they do not have a guy that is acting like an ass and under performing. Their club house will be better and easier for the players. Terry Francona's job is a little easier as well. No more questions about Manny.

The Sox are not better, but with Papi's status not known. They probably need to start spreading that wealth to compensate for Manny departure, Papi's regression and Tek's invisible bat.

You're one of the few to admit the truth. You make great points besides that. I still think he can help the yankees greatly.

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Manny stopped playing for Boston in trying to force them to agree to NOT pick up his option. The guy was faking injuries, not running out balls and refused to take the bat off his shoulders in a AB against the Yankees while taking 3 called strikes. How do you translate that into Boston are idiots for getting rid of him?

At any rate the Yanks likely need a trade to make room for him.

Agreed 100%. No way can they have Manny - Damon - Nady in the OF next year. Specifically the CF part.

They need a center fielder for defensive purposes.

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Max, when we won in the late 90's we never really had a strong defensive outfield. Even Bernie at his best had a weaker arm than Pennington.

I don't think Max is talking about needing a CF with a strong arm. We're going to need a CF who can go get the long drives in the gaps. Their defense in the OF this season is going to be absolutely horrible if there isn't a serious defenisve upgrade. Hell, despite the fact that he makes Melky Cabrera look like Micky Mantle, I'd even bring in Joey Gathright. Probably the fastest man in baseball and if they're going to be playing guys like Nady and Matsui in the outfiled, they'll need somebody like that to make all these pitchers worth the money.

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I don't think Max is talking about needing a CF with a strong arm. We're going to need a CF who can go get the long drives in the gaps. Their defense in the OF this season is going to be absolutely horrible if there isn't a serious defenisve upgrade. Hell, despite the fact that he makes Melky Cabrera look like Micky Mantle, I'd even bring in Joey Gathright. Probably the fastest man in baseball and if they're going to be playing guys like Nady and Matsui in the outfiled, they'll need somebody like that to make all these pitchers worth the money.

Cameron would fit that equation perfectly. But, you have that defense in Melky already, why pay for as little more offense?

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Cameron would fit that equation perfectly. But, you have that defense in Melky already, why pay for as little more offense?

Melky is above average defensively...personally I feel that above average with that spacious CF isn't good enough. Get somebody who is elite. I kind of like Cameron but you don't know how quickly a 37 y/o who used roids is going to break down.

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The Manny smear campaign continues:

Speaking of Manny, Comcast Sportsnet New England will have a "Manny being Manny" special on Christmas night detailing the final days of Manny Ramirez in Boston. It's a much watch (or DVR) after the Celtics/Lakers game.

I hear this piece is one hell of an indictment on what a shmuck Manny allegedly is.

Why doesn't the Boston Media just let it go already - and you just KNOW that the Red Sox FO was all aboard this idea - probably encouraged it. Yah, Manny shot his way out of town. Get over it. Larry Lucchino is one spiteful bastard. The Boston media is too. The marriage between the Sox and the local scribes and TV sporst personalities is sickening.

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The Manny smear campaign continues:

Speaking of Manny, Comcast Sportsnet New England will have a "Manny being Manny" special on Christmas night detailing the final days of Manny Ramirez in Boston. It's a much watch (or DVR) after the Celtics/Lakers game.

I hear this piece is one hell of an indictment on what a shmuck Manny allegedly is.

Why doesn't the Boston Media just let it go already - and you just KNOW that the Red Sox FO was all aboard this idea - probably encouraged it. Yah, Manny shot his way out of town. Get over it. Larry Lucchino is one spiteful bastard. The Boston media is too. The marriage between the Sox and the local scribes and TV sporst personalities is sickening.

will that only be on your local channels or nationwide?

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Cameron would fit that equation perfectly. But, you have that defense in Melky already, why pay for as little more offense?

That is a good question. But I think the difference in offense between Melky and Cameron is significant. The power #s are very different. Although Cameron's strikeouts negate some of it. I guess what kills Melky is his OBP which is always terrible.

Defensively though that is the kind of person they need out there. It is a catch 22. If they had Manny's bat in the lineup, they can afford Melky's bat. But how do you DH Damon when he is a better LF'er than Manny.

Interesting choices.

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That is a good question. But I think the difference in offense between Melky and Cameron is significant. The power #s are very different. Although Cameron's strikeouts negate some of it. I guess what kills Melky is his OBP which is always terrible.

Defensively though that is the kind of person they need out there. It is a catch 22. If they had Manny's bat in the lineup, they can afford Melky's bat. But how do you DH Damon when he is a better LF'er than Manny.

Interesting choices.

That relates to my comment earlier about "Frankensteining" pieces together. It gets difficult.

Nice to have choices though.

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The Yankees will sign Manny. I am happy that they will. Manny will be more than happy to put on the pinstripes. Like I have said many times, he will be on a mission to make Beanfart look like idiots for getting rid of him. Sign him NOW.

Manny kind of fixed by dogging it so Boston really had no choice but to deal him. My thoughts : "Be careful what you wish for" . :biggrin:

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Manny is going to beat to his own drum to use the old expression- do you really want that on your "team".

Yeah he does. Part of me wants him and the other part says no. Hey, if and it's a big "if" the guy performs like he had for the Dodgers after they got him, fine. If he doesn't, it becomes a very bad investment for the Yankees...and it's not like they don't have several of those.

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Yeah he does. Part of me wants him and the other part says no. Hey, if and it's a big "if" the guy performs like he had for the Dodgers after they got him, fine. If he doesn't, it becomes a very bad investment for the Yankees...and it's not like they don't have several of those.

I think that Manny will play at a "Dodger like" high level . The question , as usual ,is for how long and how much cancer will he bring to the team .

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