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Yes but all the players you have on your roster would need to be under the required cap limit. It is tough to have close to 30 million tied up at one position at any point in the year. Can hurt during the free agency period. Do not forget Cassell would have to agree to any new contract knowing he could get 15 million for one year.

Cap space is cleared all the time. If the Redskins can do it then so can NE.

Cassels signing bonus would surely be greater than 15 mil. Plus, he gets salary, bonuses, (possibly escalators) and a long term commitment. The Tag is a death sentence should Cassel suffer a career ending injury.

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Cap space is cleared all the time. If the Redskins can do it then so can NE.

Cassels signing bonus would surely be greater than 15 mil. Plus, he gets salary, bonuses, (possibly escalators) and a long term commitment. The Tag is a death sentence should Cassel suffer a career ending injury.

Its how you clear the cap room. Don't compare the Redskins look what they have won doing it their way. I am not saying Cassel cannot be dealt but he has the leverage. Not to many players get hurt sitting on the bench.

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Its how you clear the cap room. Don't compare the Redskins look what they have won doing it their way. I am not saying Cassel cannot be dealt but he has the leverage. Not to many players get hurt sitting on the bench.

The cap space is cleared with the intention of a trade. Its temporary.

It behooves NFL teams to deal for Cassel in 2009 with 2010 being an uncapped season. Cassels stock may never be as high as it is right now. Next season Cassel could be a JAG.

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The cap space is cleared with the intention of a trade. Its temporary.

It behooves NFL teams to deal for Cassel in 2009 with 2010 being an uncapped season. Cassels stock may never be as high as it is right now. Next season Cassel could be a JAG.

It is permanent until a contract is negotiated. If the cap is 130 million you need to be at 130 million or less at the moment you tender the franchise tag this could cause cutting players. Do not beleive that 2010 will be uncapped, there will be an new CBA long before that time.

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This will not happen via a trade:)

Heh.

Won't have to happen.

One of two things will happen this offseasn:

Matt Cassel will become a Free Agent and will sign with whom he chooses to

OR

Matt Cassel will be franchised, and payed $14 million by New England for one season, to back up Tom Brady. This will only happen if the Patriots fear Brady may not be ready by September.

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Heh.

Won't have to happen.

One of two things will happen this offseasn:

Matt Cassel will become a Free Agent and will sign with whom he chooses to

OR

Matt Cassel will be franchised, and payed $14 million by New England for one season, to back up Tom Brady. This will only happen if the Patriots fear Brady may not be ready by September.

I have a feeling he will be a JET... Im not sure how I feel about it...

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Heh.

Won't have to happen.

One of two things will happen this offseasn:

Matt Cassel will become a Free Agent and will sign with whom he chooses to

OR

Matt Cassel will be franchised, and payed $14 million by New England for one season, to back up Tom Brady. This will only happen if the Patriots fear Brady may not be ready by September.

He can be franchised and have sign and trade contract.

I think he will be a unrestricted free agent unless Brady's injury is as bad as the media is making it out to be.

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Pats will get somethin' for Cassel. You know it. I know it. We all know it. It's just the way it's 'gonna be. So stop you're whining. The Pats will remain a competitive force for years. :)

Yeah right Cassel wants to be a starter that kicks the **** out of the Pats... unless of course they let him start and dump Brady...

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Yeah right Cassel wants to be a starter that kicks the **** out of the Pats... unless of course they let him start and dump Brady...

He won't be a Jet - unless BB knows something we all don't know. He did let Bledsoe go to Buffalo and we all know how that worked out ;)

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He won't be a Jet - unless BB knows something we all don't know. He did let Bledsoe go to Buffalo and we all know how that worked out ;)

Bledsoe was washed up...

Cassel will go somewhere... and start... the Pats will get nothing... the only thing they can do is pay a small fortune for a backup by franchising him...

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Yeah right Cassel wants to be a starter that kicks the **** out of the Pats... unless of course they let him start and dump Brady...

Brady>>>>>>>>>>>Cassel and its not even close. I wish nothing but the best for Cassel next year when he is a 49er or Lion.

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Brady>>>>>>>>>>>Cassel and its not even close. I wish nothing but the best for Cassel next year when he is a 49er or Lion.

Vikings

JETS

Lions

49ers

Bucs

Panthers

Titans

Jags

Cheifs

Rams

Seahawks

Could all take a look...

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No they are happy with Edwards... he is a good QB...

:rl:

Trent Edwards is far from a good Quarterback. The guy is a stick and makes mistakes all over. He looked OK last season but this season was just putrid. He's not that much better than J.P. Losman who has more talent, just cannot put it together.

As for Cassel being franchised & traded, I just don't see it. They would be taking a huge risk by having a $14 million back-up Quarterback if there is no team desperate enough to trade a 1st & 3rd round pick for him.

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It is permanent until a contract is negotiated. If the cap is 130 million you need to be at 130 million or less at the moment you tender the franchise tag this could cause cutting players.

Or, moving money owed into the future. Once Cassel is traded the Tag money is back on the positive side of the ledger.

Do not beleive that 2010 will be uncapped, there will be an new CBA long before that time.

There wont be a Director of the Players Union until March of 2009. They will have approximately 1 year to hammer out a new deal and the owners are adamant about reducing rookie contracts, giving up less revenue due to stadium contruction costs and recouping signing bonus from malcontent players.

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Or, moving money owed into the future. Once Cassel is traded the Tag money is back on the positive side of the ledger.

There wont be a Director of the Players Union until March of 2009. They will have approximately 1 year to hammer out a new deal and the owners are adamant about reducing rookie contracts, giving up less revenue due to stadium contruction costs and recouping signing bonus from malcontent players.

They will likey extend the deal 1 or 2 years until they hammer out a new deal.

In regards to Kassel if they are able to sign and trade him it will be after the prime free agency period therefore they will not have any cap room to sign any free agents. I think he will go unrestricted unless Brady is really hurt which no one knows except the doctors the team and Brady.

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They will likey extend the deal 1 or 2 years until they hammer out a new deal.

In regards to Kassel if they are able to sign and trade him it will be after the prime free agency period therefore they will not have any cap room to sign any free agents. I think he will go unrestricted unless Brady is really hurt which no one knows except the doctors the team and Brady.

Why would the owners agree to extend? They can lock the players out in 2011.

NE wont let Cassel walk.

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the tag and trade move only has leverage if there is a chance the team will actually make this guy play under the tag

for example when the Jets tagged Johnny Abe, the assumption was if no one stepped up he would play that year.

this is not a similar sitaution. the Pats, as great as they are, can only play 1 QB at a time. they have franchise money invested in Brady.

in the end They WILL let Cassel walk for nothing, because they have no other options. They aren't going to pay him 15 mil to be a 1 year backup. it's more than 10% of the cap in a backup player.

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Heh.

Won't have to happen.

One of two things will happen this offseasn:

Matt Cassel will become a Free Agent and will sign with whom he chooses to

OR

Matt Cassel will be franchised, and payed $14 million by New England for one season, to back up Tom Brady. This will only happen if the Patriots fear Brady may not be ready by September.

OR the Pats threaten to franchise and trade him away to an NFC team for less then he's worth on the open market (this is what I think will happen)

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No. You cannot trade a franchise player. Cassel and his agent(s) would have to work out a deal with that team before the trade could happen meaning Cassel could basically turn down any trade and say F-U to New England.

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2010 won't be uncapped. The owners aren't THAT stupid, the NFL makes too much money with the current system in place, and rookies don't really have too much bargaining power since they're not even in the league yet before they sign. The rookie issue is a non-issue, only the top 6 or 7 get huge contracts, and generally if you are picking that high you have tons of salary cap room, or can have it, because your players all pretty much suck anyway.

As for Cassel, the Pats probably don't franchise him. That simply costs too much, and if Brady is fully healthy especially and the Pats are just looking to trade him (it's obvious, since they'd have to talk to other teams so that they know to make offers) the NFL will step in. But can't the Pats make him a restricted agent or something? In this case that is pretty much the same, since he is unproven.

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2010 won't be uncapped. The owners aren't THAT stupid, the NFL makes too much money with the current system in place, and rookies don't really have too much bargaining power since they're not even in the league yet before they sign. The rookie issue is a non-issue, only the top 6 or 7 get huge contracts, and generally if you are picking that high you have tons of salary cap room, or can have it, because your players all pretty much suck anyway.

As for Cassel, the Pats probably don't franchise him. That simply costs too much, and if Brady is fully healthy especially and the Pats are just looking to trade him (it's obvious, since they'd have to talk to other teams so that they know to make offers) the NFL will step in. But can't the Pats make him a restricted agent or something? In this case that is pretty much the same, since he is unproven.

Transitional tag? Someone help me out here with the details.

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