PSL's could get Mangini Fired

[Boynton Beach Jets]

One reason might get Mangini canned and that is PSL's, if Woody Johnson realizes fan sentiment is so overwhelming in favor of ridding of Mangini he might do it because the PSL bills will be a big topic in the next couple of months. PR is going to be very important in the selling of PSL's.

[Irish Jet]

Hopefully PSL's get us this guy:

[Boynton Beach Jets]

Hopefully PSL's get us this guy:

Actually it can this off season is going to be huge in selling PSL's and Woody wants to have a happy fan base

[serphnx]

It'd probably work. Personally I don't think it matters, the Jets are cursed and nobody can change that. I think Bill Parcells figured that out and that's why he left after only 3 years. If the guy wasn't afraid of a curse he would have tried to win the SB the next year, he had all the pieces in place. Instead, Groh was next victimized by the curse. His collapse wasn't even as bad as Mangini's, but whatever.

To me, the Jets have to actually prove that they're not the SOJ first. It's just such a joke. What will make Cowher any different? I bet Mangini goes onto another franchise and wins more SBs than BB did.

[Bugg]

Cowher is going to be offered a big pile of money form the Redskins. They're making noises about keeping Zorn, but don't buy it.

Cowher's stated reason for leaving is his family living in North Carolina.

Nowe he's spent 2 seasons commuting to NY every football weekend anyway, so don't know how that family thing wroked out.

No matter. Hard-pressed to see if the money is basically equal why Cowher comes here given a DC offer. And if you give him total contraol-something he never had in Pittsburgh-why does that strike anyone as a good idea? You probably would be looking at firing Tannebaum or at least demoting him.

I'm not saying Mangini is a lock to stay, nor that he should. But the Jets had better think this out completely and have a backup plan beyond writing Cowher a huge check. DOn't assume he wants to go back to work, or that this is his best option personally.

And the problem you run into is a continuity issue. The best coaches happen to be guys who have been around one job forever-Fisher, Coughlin, Dungy, Ballichick, Reid, Fox. If the Jets are convinced Mangini isn't one of those guys, make the move but make damn sure whether it's Cowher or whoever that he is one of thoze guys that's going to be here 7-10 years.

Suspect ultimately Mangini gets another year or 2 with new coordinators to show if he is one of those long-term guys.Suspect he also rues the day he ever heard of Brett Favre.

[joiseyjet]

To late we`ve already decided this team isn`t worth what WOODY is trying to Extorte from Loyal Fans ,"Especially" charging DOUBLE the price for the same same seats Giant fans are buying ,that would be the same GIANTS who have given their fans 3 SB Titles since our JETS have for their fans and yet they still think they have to right to charge us double what Giant owners are asking their fans to pay for PSL`s

[#27TheDominator]

I think Bill Parcells figured that out and that's why he left after only 3 years. If the guy wasn't afraid of a curse he would have tried to win the SB the next year, he had all the pieces in place.

As opposed to the four years he spent with those other cursed franchises, Dallas and New England?

I'm not saying Mangini is a lock to stay, nor that he should.

Bugg, you've got to be kidding. Looking at your sig, I thought for sure you were a Mangini for life guy.

[faba]

If we totally crash and burn I think that there might be some rethinking in the Jets hierarchy about what to do with the coaching situation. They will need to show something to the Jets fans.

[Jet Moses]

Stop. And think.

The Jets were 8-3, and in a season following a Giants SB championship, they were the talk of NY.

Then came the home game against Denver. The weather was bad, they laid an egg, it was a "let down game' yada yada, they got a pass. "We'll right the ship against the Niners".

Right? Wrong.

Once again, the Jets look uninspired, play scared, the playcalling is atrocious, gametime decision making was bizarre etc.

Home again agains tthe Bills. Anything change? Nope. Aside from a Dick Jauron brainfart, and the Jets would be winless in December.

So then we get what we got in Seattle. A 3-10 team and a golden opportunity to redeem themselves.

And once again, they come out with a horrible gameplan, play uninspired, play scared, playcalling is bizarre and inconsistent.

The guy has to go. And beating Miami on Sunday isn't going to change that. Because all we will get to see is the Pats go onto play in another post-season.

[afosomf]

offer cowher $100m for ten years!!!!

get it done woody

PSL sales will rise dramatically

This org needs some good mojo!!!

let him rebuild this team from scratch.

Cowher has the connections to bring good coaches to staff, EM had none

and brought crap on a stick.

[Jet Moses]

let him rebuild this team from scratch.

Oh, if only that were possible.

[Boynton Beach Jets]

If we totally crash and burn I think that there might be some rethinking in the Jets hierarchy about what to do with the coaching situation. They will need to show something to the Jets fans.

Unfortunately the decision is likely done. There will be an announcement once the season is over that Farve, Sutton and some assistant's will not be back this will make a little splash and take the pressure of Mangini coming back. The only hope for the fans who want Mangini gone is that management senses overwhelming public support to rid of Mangini that they will listen because they are afraid it could effect PSL sales.

[afosomf]

Oh, if only that were possible.

He will get rid of barton and the Big pussie BT

and all the other deadwood.

The D will be aggressive and not pussified!!

he is just the coach to light a fire under VG as well

[Bugg]

As opposed to the four years he spent with those other cursed franchises, Dallas and New England?

Bugg, you've got to be kidding. Looking at your sig, I thought for sure you were a Mangini for life guy.

It's a disaster. My only point is if the Jets bag Mangini, they better have a plan B if Cowher doesn't come. Then what are you looking at- Brian Billick? Some hotshot college guy? I don't have that answer,and until they do, the question is whether Mangini is the lesser of evils.

[Boynton Beach Jets]

It's a disaster. My only point is if the Jets bag Mangini, they better have a plan B if Cowher doesn't come. Then what are you looking at- Brian Billick? Some hotshot college guy? I don't have that answer,and until they do, the question is whether Mangini is the lesser of evils.

Cowher will not come unless the Jets get rid of Mike Tannenbaum. Cowher is going to want control of front office moves. Tannenbaum has done a very good job and would be a bad move for the Jets to get rid of. Yuk Billick. Steve Spagnulo would be a great choice and would not want front office pull, the only bad thing is he would prefer 4-3 defensive personal while we are now equipped more toward the 3-4. So then you talk another 2-3 years to turn this around.

[Maxman]

It'd probably work. Personally I don't think it matters, the Jets are cursed and nobody can change that. I think Bill Parcells figured that out and that's why he left after only 3 years. If the guy wasn't afraid of a curse he would have tried to win the SB the next year, he had all the pieces in place. Instead, Groh was next victimized by the curse. His collapse wasn't even as bad as Mangini's, but whatever.

To me, the Jets have to actually prove that they're not the SOJ first. It's just such a joke. What will make Cowher any different? I bet Mangini goes onto another franchise and wins more SBs than BB did.

Dude Bill Parcells left because the man in the mirrror told him to. Not sure how he didn't make that perfectly clear.

Boynton this is a GREAT thread and I think you are right. Under normal circumstances there is no way he gets fired. He was 35 years old when he got hired and everyone knew he was going to learn on the job. That wasn't a secret.

This year has been bad, no doubt about it. They have underperformed but normally a 9/10 win season wouldn't be enough to get a Jets coach fired.

Woody is going to do his PSLs though and that could be enough to get him to make a move. Generally speaking when they make football moves for non-football reasons, it isn't a good thing. You could say that about the coach if he goes and you can say the same thing about Favre. Although replacing Mangini with Cowher would probably be the exception to that rule.

[Lil Bit Special]

Dude Bill Parcells left because the man in the mirrror told him to. Not sure how he didn't make that perfectly clear.

Boynton this is a GREAT thread and I think you are right. Under normal circumstances there is no way he gets fired. He was 35 years old when he got hired and everyone knew he was going to learn on the job. That wasn't a secret.

This year has been bad, no doubt about it. They have underperformed but normally a 9/10 win season wouldn't be enough to get a Jets coach fired.

Woody is going to do his PSLs though and that could be enough to get him to make a move. Generally speaking when they make football moves for non-football reasons, it isn't a good thing. You could say that about the coach if he goes and you can say the same thing about Favre. Although replacing Mangini with Cowher would probably be the exception to that rule.

Hey... it was my idea first.

http://www.jetnation.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1104101&postcount=22

The decision to keep Mangini will be based on one thing and one thing only:

How will it affect PSL sales.

The majority of PSL's will be sold this offseason. If the fan base is turned off to the coaching staff and team they wont buy PSL's

You hire a big name like Cowher and sign Kurt Warner (mvp candidate) and Houshmandzadeh the fans will be re-energized and shell out $$$

Woody cares about one thing: Money. And this offseason will be his biggest shot at making money.

Now rep me Master!

[Jet Moses]

Dude Bill Parcells left because the man in the mirrror told him to.