Mangini is weak, not stupid

[sirlancemehlot]

Decisions, decisions. Do I punt, or go for it? Do I trust my defense, or do I trust my punter? Do I like the placekicker that's been absolutely solid all year, or wait for him to stumble and bring in the guy who's healthy, but not contributing because I don't know what to do with him? What to do...what to doo... Weak. Cowardly. Uninspired. I detest Herm Edwards because he was a bad coach. But I detest Mangini more because he is a good coach with one less testicle than Herm. At least Edwards had some fire and made decisions (most of them bad, but decisions nonetheless.) Mangini lost the confidence of his team because he showed no confidence, competence, or conviction. If he were to cut one kicker and bear the wrath for it right now, I swear I'd back him for another season just on principle. But he won't. Because he's chicken****. And so is his team, now. Poor bastards. They thought they had it all until they realized that their coach was a politician and not a man with a backbone. Where are the Landrys, Coughlins, Fox's, Shulas, Knox's, Parcells....this team only gets Herms and Manginis and Carrolls and Punks and sissies. In the words of princess Leia, Help us Bill Cowher, you're our only hope. (Total bonus if Cowher wears that golden Bikini from Return of the Jedi..mustache and all...but i digress and reveal far too much about my early childhood). Just the same. It's time.

P.S. Thank you all for the kind words and support in the "My father's last game thread". Your Class and decency have not been taken lightly. Perfect strangers and yet truly human just the same....my appreciation is real and heartfelt.

[Irish Jet]

Decisions, decisions. Do I punt, or go for it? Do I trust my defense, or do I trust my punter? Do I like the placekicker that's been absolutely solid all year, or wait for him to stumble and bring in the guy who's healthy, but not contributing because I don't know what to do with him? What to do...what to doo... Weak. Cowardly. Uninspired. I detest Herm Edwards because he was a bad coach. But I detest Mangini more because he is a good coach with one less testicle than Herm. At least Edwards had some fire and made decisions (most of them bad, but decisions nonetheless.) Mangini lost the confidence of his team because he showed no confidence, competence, or conviction. If he were to cut one kicker and bear the wrath for it right now, I swear I'd back him for another season just on principle. But he won't. Because he's chicken****. And so is his team, now. Poor bastards. They thought they had it all until they realized that their coach was a politician and not a man with a backbone. Where are the Landrys, Coughlins, Fox's, Shulas, Knox's, Parcells....this team only gets Herms and Manginis and Carrolls and Punks and sissies. In the words of princess Leia, Help us Bill Cowher, you're our only hope. (Total bonus if Cowher wears that golden Bikini from Return of the Jedi..mustache and all...but i digress and reveal far too much about my early childhood). Just the same. It's time.

P.S. Thank you all for the kind words and support in the "My father's last game thread". Your Class and decency have not been taken lightly. Perfect strangers and yet truly human just the same....my appreciation is real and heartfelt.

Good post and I agree with most of what you said except that Mangini is a good coach. I think he's cowardly AND a bad coach at that. I also he's lost/losing the locker room, if that's the case he won't be here next season. Thankfully.

[serphnx]

Good post and I agree with most of what you said except that Mangini is a good coach. I think he's cowardly AND a bad coach at that. I also he's lost/losing the locker room, if that's the case he won't be here next season. Thankfully.

I've said this a few times but nobody has really responded to it. I think the players quit on Mangini a few weeks ago. I don't think it was right after the Titans game, but maybe that's where they thought he was truly worthless and that they won in spite of him, but I think it was sometime during the Niners game. At some point in the Niners game the players realized he is a moron and just quit, and they haven't come back since.

[Pragmatic Bus]

I've said this a few times but nobody has really responded to it. I think the players quit on Mangini a few weeks ago. I don't think it was right after the Titans game, but maybe that's where they thought he was truly worthless and that they won in spite of him, but I think it was sometime during the Niners game. At some point in the Niners game the players realized he is a moron and just quit, and they haven't come back since.

didnt leon washington say after the 49er game that as long as we execute coach mangini's gameplan we should win

[war ensemble]

didnt leon washington say after the 49er game that as long as we execute coach mangini's gameplan we should win

Did you expect him to say anything other than that? They're not going to go out and say something like, "Yeah, our coach is a no-balled fat bastard, so we're just going to do our own thing. Pizza face can't stop us."

[Pragmatic Bus]

Did you expect him to say anything other than that? They're not going to go out and say something like, "Yeah, our coach is a no-balled fat bastard, so we're just going to do our own thing. Pizza face can't stop us."

he could have easily said we got outcoached

[#27TheDominator]

Yes. He is a true coward. Afraid to throw a bomb on fourth and four with two plus minutes remaining in a game that will decide whether the team gets in the playoffs and possibly, if he has a job next year. No guts at all.

[Irish Jet]

Yes. He is a true coward. Afraid to throw a bomb on fourth and four with two plus minutes remaining in a game that will decide whether the team gets in the playoffs and possibly, if he has a job next year. No guts at all.

That was just a stupid call. He had 3 TO's and the 2 minute warning. The deep pass also was a secondary option, the short route was covered.

The gutless desicions came on an earlier 4th down where he kicked a FG from the 2 yard line and when he declined to kick a 50 yard FG despite Feeley kicking a FG which would have been good from around 60 seconds before hand.

There are also so many more examples throughout the season of his conservative play-calling. Those are just some from Sunday.

[Pragmatic Bus]

That was just a stupid call. He had 3 TO's and the 2 minute warning. The deep pass also was a secondary option, the short route was covered.

The gutless desicions came on an earlier 4th down where he kicked a FG from the 2 yard line and when he declined to kick a 50 yard FG despite Feeley kicking a FG which would have been good from around 60 seconds before hand.

There are also so many more examples throughout the season of his conservative play-calling. Those are just some from Sunday.

why are u not in the coaching bussiness my friend

[Irish Jet]

why are u not in the coaching bussiness my friend

Too far away from home.

[Pragmatic Bus]

Too far away from home.

i'm sorry i wasn't aware of your situation.

bieng homeless can be tuff

[ECURB]

He is fat and stupid.... get it right

[#27TheDominator]

That was just a stupid call. He had 3 TO's and the 2 minute warning. The deep pass also was a secondary option, the short route was covered.

The gutless desicions came on an earlier 4th down where he kicked a FG from the 2 yard line and when he declined to kick a 50 yard FG despite Feeley kicking a FG which would have been good from around 60 seconds before hand.

There are also so many more examples throughout the season of his conservative play-calling. Those are just some from Sunday.

No! No! No! Not stupid. Gutless. He didn't have the guts to "go for the jugular!" Pay attention!

I will say what I've said in another thread- that call sucked, but it was pure Bill Walsh genius in comparison to Leon Johnson throwing a HB option with the season on the line. Yet Bill Parcells is idolized around here.

[Jet Moses]

I think Mangini would make a great scout.

[SMC]

I never thought Mangini was stupid. He simply has 3 fundamental flaws, the 3rd which prevents him from rectifying the first 2:

1. Failure to adjust

2. Passivity

3. Failure to acknowledge fault in the first 2.

That's why he's a bad HC and his career record reflects that.

[stoicsentry]

That was just a stupid call. He had 3 TO's and the 2 minute warning. The deep pass also was a secondary option, the short route was covered.

The gutless desicions came on an earlier 4th down where he kicked a FG from the 2 yard line and when he declined to kick a 50 yard FG despite Feeley kicking a FG which would have been good from around 60 seconds before hand.

There are also so many more examples throughout the season of his conservative play-calling. Those are just some from Sunday.

I like how if he goes for it in one of these situations and fails then he's an idiot, and if he doesn't go for it in one of these situations then he's gutless. He can't win. But then again, he... doesn't win.

[CTM]

I've said this a few times but nobody has really responded to it. I think the players quit on Mangini a few weeks ago. I don't think it was right after the Titans game, but maybe that's where they thought he was truly worthless and that they won in spite of him, but I think it was sometime during the Niners game. At some point in the Niners game the players realized he is a moron and just quit, and they haven't come back since.

Probably after that gutless puke punted on 4th and 2 from the 38 to open the game and then called out his rookie TE afterwards about the play...

[CTM]

Yes. He is a true coward. Afraid to throw a bomb on fourth and four with two plus minutes remaining in a game that will decide whether the team gets in the playoffs and possibly, if he has a job next year. No guts at all.

There is no way Mangini called that play. That was our brain dead ****sure Qb who heaved it down the field. GO figure to that it was his best pass of the day and emo Coles dropped it .. again.

[DoubleDown]

I never thought Mangini was stupid. He simply has 3 fundamental flaws, the 3rd which prevents him from rectifying the first 2:

1. Failure to adjust

2. Passivity

3. Failure to acknowledge fault in the first 2.

That's why he's a bad HC and his career record reflects that.

Right on. I would add lack of instincts and no sense of momentum to that list.

[DoubleDown]

Yes. He is a true coward. Afraid to throw a bomb on fourth and four with two plus minutes remaining in a game that will decide whether the team gets in the playoffs and possibly, if he has a job next year. No guts at all.

That one is on Favre (choice of receiver) and Schottenheimer (play call). There were 4 receivers on that play: 2 short, 1 intermediate, 1 deep. All were covered like a blanket. Favre went deep of course...