We all know what Pennington is

[shawn306]

A QB who threw for more yards then the great gunslinger Brett Favre

A QB who threw less picks then the great gunslinger Brett Favre.

A QB who is also now an AFC East Champ

Not Favre

Not Cassel

Not Edwards.

Great job by the Jets management.

Great job by us fans. Guess we reallly know our QB's

[JonEJet]

It's obvious we don't know what we have with all of our guys around the league tearing it up

[madmike1]

A QB who threw for more yards then the great gunslinger Brett Favre

A QB who threw less picks then the great gunslinger Brett Favre.

A QB who is also now an AFC East Champ

Not Favre

Not Cassel

Not Edwards.

Great job by the Jets management.

Great job by us fans. Guess we reallly know our QB's

Are you still gonna be ballwashing pennington when the ravens embarrass him and his ****ty team next week?

[jetguy32]

Parcells new what Pennington was when he drafted him. A winner!!!!!!!!!!!!

[shawn306]

Are you still gonna be ballwashing pennington when the ravens embarrass him and his ****ty team next week?

Yeah I probably will be until the Jets go out and get another QB.

The Fish are going to the post season.

The Jets and Pats are going ice fishing

[aec4]

I don't think Management is to blame.

COACHING is to blame. Watch Miami Play. They know how to coach up their QB to his strengths. THEY THROW THE BALL DOWN THE FIELD ON OCCASION. They utilize the TE, etc etc.

If anyone has to go, it's Schottenheimer. If it takes Mangini for that to happen, fine...

My guess, you'll see Schottenheimer (no thanks) back next year, and you'll see Romeo as DC.... (which I am ok with)

[ZachEY]

Those of us who've been anti-chad for years, know that this is exactly what you can expect from him.

Truth is, it was never really about Chad sucking... suck is just a word us fans like to use to express our frustrations... it was all about Chad not being good enough.

Lets see him deal with the Ravens, Steelers, Colts, Titans, etc.

[Matt39]

Exactly. Miami just looked so much better coached out there. Chad wasnt anything special today- he lookeda lot like he did when he was a Jet.

Unfortunatley for Chad- that type of game wont cut it against Baltimore.

[GFJET33]

we all know what chad is when it comes to a playoff game against a tough defense, come next sunday night well all be remembering why we all hated his ass. He was always good enough to get us to the big game, never good enough to get us through that big game.

enough of the pennington second guessing, whining, and regretting. hes a good quarterback and thats it.

[kyhangdog]

Those of us who've been anti-chad for years, know that this is exactly what you can expect from him.

Truth is, it was never really about Chad sucking... suck is just a word us fans like to use to express our frustrations... it was all about Chad not being good enough.

Lets see him deal with the Ravens, Steelers, Colts, Titans, etc.

Ah... now you're trying to tone it down. Pathetic.

[ZachEY]

Ah... now you're trying to tone it down. Pathetic.

I am still 100% thrilled that he is gone. Wouldn't trade that for anything in the world. None of us would.

What's pathetic is that you signed up here today to follow me around some more.

Might want to get a life.

[Vicious89x]

Those of us who've been anti-chad for years, know that this is exactly what you can expect from him.

Truth is, it was never really about Chad sucking... suck is just a word us fans like to use to express our frustrations... it was all about Chad not being good enough.

Lets see him deal with the Ravens, Steelers, Colts, Titans, etc.

I'm with you bro, honestly for me it was always about taking a step forward with my anti-chad sentiments. I never though we could've gone to the big game with him. I still think we need to have a QB for the future and always thought keeping Pennington around would stifle that growth.

This is an exciting time for Phins fans. If he's there in 5 more years talk to them then.

[kyhangdog]

I am still 100% thrilled that he is gone. Wouldn't trade that for anything in the world. None of us would.

What's pathetic is that you signed up here today to follow me around some more.

Might want to get a life.

Hey buddy, missed ya. Yeah, I was cruising all the boards and say you... thought I'd say hi for old time's sake. You've toned it down quite a bit from the other place... ahem, I won't mention which one. Bottom line... you were and have been wrong.

[piney]

Those of us who've been anti-chad for years, know that this is exactly what you can expect from him.

Truth is, it was never really about Chad sucking... suck is just a word us fans like to use to express our frustrations... it was all about Chad not being good enough.

Lets see him deal with the Ravens, Steelers, Colts, Titans, etc.

I would rather have going to the playoffs than not going to the playoffs.....

if you would rather have another QB yet no playoff appearance...well...here you go

[ZachEY]

Hey buddy, missed ya. Yeah, I was cruising all the boards and say you... thought I'd say hi for old time's sake. You've toned it down quite a bit from the other place... ahem, I won't mention which one. Bottom line... you were and have been wrong.

Um...

Did Pennington lead a high scoring offense? No.

Did Pennington beat a good defense this season? No.

In fact, he only beat one playoff team, and it was one that could be 8-8 and division champs.

Did Pennington win a playoff game yet? No.

So, really, none of my major points have been wrong. He's having a solid season, but is doing very little different than he did for us in 02, 04, or 06.

And I've toned down the Pennington talk because he's a Miami Dolphin. Unlike some 'fans', I care about the New York Jets, and their players. This team has enough problems for me to spend my time talking about Miami Dolphins players.

Lastly, I left JI and with it, the drama. You don't have to respect that, but as I ignored your posts over there, I will continue to do so over here if you'd like to act like a child.

[ZachEY]

I would rather have going to the playoffs than not going to the playoffs.....

if you would rather have another QB yet no playoff appearance...well...here you go

Obviously I would have loved to have been in the playoffs, but you can't say that because Chad is in the playoffs with the Fins, he'd be in the playoffs with the Jets.

I believe Johnny Hector had the actual stat, but the Fins offense (the side of the ball the QB is on) is not really much better this year.

On the other hand, the Fins defense (the side of the ball the QB does not play on) is significantly better this year.

But yeah... that's irrelevant, and Chad is the best QB of all time.

[NJ]

Hey buddy, missed ya. Yeah, I was cruising all the boards and say you... thought I'd say hi for old time's sake. You've toned it down quite a bit from the other place... ahem, I won't mention which one. Bottom line... you were and have been wrong.

Hey Doggy - you need something chomp on? I think you know where to find a bone.

So you were right about Chad Pennington huh? Chud isn't doing anything there that he didn't do here a couple times. And he will have his azz handed to him when he meets up with a real football team just like he did when he played here. He's a serviceable QB thats a 10 win guy in the right situation with the right schedule. No more - but potentially a lot less as we have seen here. Go away.

[ZachEY]

Hey Doggy - you need something chomp on? I think you know where to find a bone.

Haha. Maybe he'll start following you around the internet now too.

[Irish Jet]

Chad's a good QB but he's limited. The problem is I think Favre at this stage was limited too which was why I didn't want Favre in the first place.

Would we have been better with Pennington? Who knows. He's very well coached in Miami and they're helping him play to the best of his abilities.

[Jet Moses]

You guys are still hung up on this? C'mon man, turn on the military channel Hitlers bodygaurd.

It's really interesting and it'll help you forget all this Jets crap.

[piney]

Obviously I would have loved to have been in the playoffs, but you can't say that because Chad is in the playoffs with the Fins, he'd be in the playoffs with the Jets.to

I believe Johnny Hector had the actual stat, but the Fins offense (the side of the ball the QB is on) is not really much better this year.

On the other hand, the Fins defense (the side of the ball the QB does not play on) is significantly better this year.

But yeah... that's irrelevant, and Chad is the best QB of all time.

Well...just like any anti-Chad guy...you try to paint me as a blind Chadaholic....

I just felt that the Jets would have probably won 10 games with Chad.

My opinion of Chad has always been the same...you can win with him.

The Jets mistake was in getting rid of a known quantity...Chad and bringing in the unknown.

You can coach a team around Chad's abilities...you can't expect him to win a game by himself...but he will play well enough to aid a team.

So, yeah..the Dolphins defense is much improved...but has Penny been better this year than last? How were his stats this season?

He played well. He did his job.

I am one of those idiots who is happy with a team that gets to the playoffs more times than not.

Teams have been to the playoffs and won super bowls with QB's much worse than Chad.

I just want to have a shot every year to win it.

Teams don't dominate like they used to..the Patriots are a fluke...the idea that there is some magical QB out there for the Jets to get who will play them into the promised land is a joke.

Defense and a mistake free QB is what will win it for the Jets.....

[Bleedin Green]

I guess Shaun Hill, Seneca Wallace, Ryan Fitzpatrick, and all those guys are superstar QBs right? Just because the Jets secondary sucks and Chad had big completions on throws that should've been easy INTs, don't make the mistake in thinking that doens't mean he still sucks. Outside of a few throws on horrid plays by the Jets, it was crystal clear that in that offense, trickery and the running game is what its all about. Lets just see what happens if Chad has to throw against Baltimore next week.

If nothing else, this season still makes me happy about the fact that we're rid of that overrated loser. Chad had another one of his mediocre seasons that everyone loves to make out into more than what it was, it'll surely get him a new big contract from Miami and they'll be stuck with the same glass ceiling the Jets were for so many years while his back-breaking cap hit forces them to stick with him.

[drago]

A QB who threw for more yards then the great gunslinger Brett Favre

A QB who threw less picks then the great gunslinger Brett Favre.

A QB who is also now an AFC East Champ

Not Favre

Not Cassel

Not Edwards.

Great job by the Jets management.

Great job by us fans. Guess we reallly know our QB's

Come on...everyone here knows that in a season like 08 (no brady for the pats and a bunch of average AFC East team) Pennington can win the division. His problem has never been beating the bunnies, his problem was and still is, scoring more than three points against the leagues best defenses.

He's a good QB but will never be confused with a great one. That's why he's not here and it's the same reason that I'm glad he's not here.

[Aqua4ever04]

Are you still gonna be ballwashing pennington when the ravens embarrass him and his ****ty team next week?

God your tears taste so good.

So many people have crow to eat here. I don't know how many "guarantees" I got that Chad wouldn't beat the Jets at the Meadowlands.

Haha, all the people comparing Chad to game managers. This is great. Fitzpatrick, Wallace? Are you serious??? HAHA!

[piney]

I guess Shaun Hill, Seneca Wallace, Ryan Fitzpatrick, and all those guys are superstar QBs right? Just because the Jets secondary sucks and Chad had big completions on throws that should've been easy INTs, don't make the mistake in thinking that doens't mean he still sucks. Outside of a few throws on horrid plays by the Jets, it was crystal clear that in that offense, trickery and the running game is what its all about. Lets just see what happens if Chad has to throw against Baltimore next week.

If nothing else, this season still makes me happy about the fact that we're rid of that overrated loser. Chad had another one of his mediocre seasons that everyone loves to make out into more than what it was, it'll surely get him a new big contract from Miami and they'll be stuck with the same glass ceiling the Jets were for so many years while his back-breaking cap hit forces them to stick with him.

yeah...I was always so pissed off whenever the Jets made the playoffs..this is much better

[Bleedin Green]

The Jets mistake was in getting rid of a known quantity...Chad and bringing in the unknown.

Except for the fact that what was known about that quantity was that he couldn't get them where they wanted to go. The so-called "unknown quantity" of Favre gave them a shot at that. It may not have worked out how they would've wanted in the end, but that doesn't change that it doens't make sticking with a known quantity that you know isn't good enough just because its known.

Teams have been to the playoffs and won super bowls with QB's much worse than Chad.

Very, very, very, very few. And sorry, but the Jets aren't exactly rocking the Ravens 2000 defense.

[ZachEY]

Well...just like any anti-Chad guy...you try to paint me as a blind Chadaholic....

I just felt that the Jets would have probably won 10 games with Chad.

My opinion of Chad has always been the same...you can win with him.

The Jets mistake was in getting rid of a known quantity...Chad and bringing in the unknown.

You can coach a team around Chad's abilities...you can't expect him to win a game by himself...but he will play well enough to aid a team.

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Defense and a mistake free QB is what will win it for the Jets.....

In no way did I paint you as a blind Chadoholic.

The point, as it's always been is that you can win with chad, but you can't win because of him. And yeah, we could have been 9-7, or 8-8, or 10-6 with him.

And, you do get rid of known quantities when you know they aren't good enough.

The point, as it's always been, is that Chad is not good enough to win at the next level. Never proven otherwise.

If all I cared about was the regular season, and putting on a good showing, then yes, I'd be happy to have Chad. But if you want to talk about winning championships, which is the ultimate goal, then NO THANK YOU.

Chad can beat a weak schedule. We all knew that.

Chad can win with a good defense and running game. We all knew that.

This doesn't change that he's been a disaster in the playoffs, that he rarely beats good defenses, and never leads a powerful offense. And, unless you have an all-world defense, you don't win the Super Bowl with that.

[lancemehl]

It's obvious we don't know what we have with all of our guys around the league tearing it up

Hey Jon, remember what i said when we pulled the trigger on the Merchandising plan. I bumped it. check it.

They saw Jersey revenue.PERIOD>

They didn't even bother to change the noodle arm Offense.

Favre should be pissed, but he's a pro. he still sucks though. he makes third string rookie mistakes. Cocck sukker!!!!!!!!!

[NJ]

Defense and a mistake free QB is what will win it for the Jets.....

So Chad Penningtons your guy huh? Would that be the 16 interception 80 bazillion fumble Chad Pennington from 2 seasons ago?

Oh, no? You want the this years Chad Pennington? Well dimfart theres a small delta in the equation. We don't have coaching that can orchestrate anything other than a predictable clusterfu<k. You got to see a little of your old boy Chaddy with the fumble and if Barton didn't have rubberhands he would have coughed up another pick-6 which would have depressed him just like it always used to.

[Bleedin Green]

yeah...I was always so pissed off whenever the Jets made the playoffs..this is much better

Yeah, it was always a blast seeing the Jets back into the playoffs and then get completely embarrassed at some point within the first two rounds.

Its not Chad's fault though, he plays "efficiently" in even years. His team even gets into the playoffs, its not his fault that those damn playoffs have to fall into the next year. How the hell is he expected to play like an NFL QB in odd years? That's absurd!

[piney]

Except for the fact that what was known about that quantity was that he couldn't get them where they wanted to go. The so-called "unknown quantity" of Favre gave them a shot at that. It may not have worked out how they would've wanted in the end, but that doesn't change that it doens't make sticking with a known quantity that you know isn't good enough just because its known.

Very, very, very, very few. And sorry, but the Jets aren't exactly rocking the Ravens 2000 defense.

I don't know if I agree with that...I think with Pennington you know exactly what you have to do in order to win with him.

You can build your team around a capable QB..which is what Chad is...he isn't the worst..he isn't great..he is capable...and if your team plays well around him..he will probably play mistake free football..which is what you want him to do.

How many great QB's are there? How many of them can manage a game like Chad?

There are tons of guys out there with ability that you can gamble with..but when you have a guy and know him inside and out, you can effectively plan your offense around him.

With Favre...we gambled..and I was behind it 100%...I thought he could be what Chad is not..a guy who can beat a team y himself if push came to shove....the gamble failed...now we have to start all over again with a team of veteran players ready to win now.

Chad did his job.

Knock it all you want...but he did his job.

No one thought the Dolphins would win the division. No one.

Easy schedule or not..Chad did his job.

[CoachTsurfing]

Parcells new what Pennington was when he drafted him. A winner!!!!!!!!!!!!

Guys, he did nothing here. I mean that in terms of taking us to the next level. Maybe he was rushed back from injury with herm. We know that Curtis was. All I can say is the Jets had a major let down for themselves and us fans. Very sad day for Jets nation. I'm so ready to move on to the draft and next season, with or without Favre and without Mangini. If Favre leaves, please move up and get Bradford. If he stays then he will have more time to gel with the receivers.

[Bugg]

God your tears taste so good.

So many people have crow to eat here. I don't know how many "guarantees" I got that Chad wouldn't beat the Jets at the Meadowlands.

Haha, all the people comparing Chad to game managers. This is great. Fitzpatrick, Wallace? Are you serious??? HAHA!

Our defense sucked. But our offense still scored more points than yours. Difference is your defense.

No matter-enjoy your 1 and out, and having another team's fans sell out your building for a playoff game.

[Pragmatic Bus]

a noodle arm who got lucky because he was cut by a cursed franchise?

[Aqua4ever04]

Our defense sucked. But our offense still scored more points than yours. Difference is your defense.

No matter-enjoy your 1 and out, and having another team's fans sell out your building for a playoff game.

Okay. And enjoy your game next week.

.....wait....