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If Jon Gruden is fired today by Tampa Bay (and supposedly theres a decent chance)


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Gruden uh no thanks...He fell into the only superbowl he won. That was Tony Dungy's team and everyone knew it. I am not impressed.

Fair point but I doubt Dungy would have replaced Shawn King. I think that's why he got fired. Gruden left behind a SB team in Oakland that he put together.

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Chucky sucks.

First coach in NFL history to have consecutive losing seasons following a SB. Only won with a ready made team.

The 2002 Bucs would have won with aec4 as head coach.

A big ****ing pass on Chucky.

Not to mention he had a bigger choke job than Mangini did this year...

I think I agree with the Kleck here.

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If Gruden is fired...I think he takes over for Cowher in the booth...needs the downtime to get prepared for his next gig...not sure a Super Bowl ring at another head coaching spot is the right pre-requisite...still haven't seen a head coach win another ring at a second location. How about Rex Ryan?

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What about Billick?

I'd pass on Billick...for all his suppossed offensive genius at Minnesota he never translated that in Baltimore...how many poor offensive teams did he have there...never did develop a good QB...his success seems to have come from drafting Ray Lewis and watching him lead their defense...

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Not to mention he had a bigger choke job than Mangini did this year...

I think I agree with the Kleck here.

No he didn't.

Considering the schedule and injury situation, the Jets choke job tops all. TB lost their last 4, but to 3 playoff teams, we lost 4 of 5, to 1 playoff team.

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Not to mention he had a bigger choke job than Mangini did this year...

I think I agree with the Kleck here.

Seriously, we just fired a guy for losing 4 of his last five to go from 8-3 to 9-7 and out of the playoffs, does anybody really want to replace him with a guy who lost his last four to go from 9-3 to 9-7 and out of the playoffs?

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No he didn't.

Considering the schedule and injury situation, the Jets choke job tops all. TB lost their last 4, but to 3 playoff teams, we lost 4 of 5, to 1 playoff team.

They lost to a horrible team at home, with a chance at the playoffs on the line. That team was absolutely uninspired yesterday.

It's bad enough I have to look at all of his stupid faces. Pass.

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Why is no one talking about Dick Lebeau? I know he flamed out in Cincy, but does he get another chance?

The only problem is that he's pretty old.

Lebeau would not be a bad choice. He is 71 years old though.

Gruden would be fine so long as he has no say over any personel decisions.

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