piney Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 Who even knows if I am spelling these names right... personally, my first choice is Billick... this is a guy who has had success with some of the worst QBs in the NFL and he would be a perfect fit.... He would come in here and have no problem with either Favre or a young QB. What is this boards thoughts on Billick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhinHater Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 Who even knows if I am spelling these names right... personally, my first choice is Billick... this is a guy who has had success with some of the worst QBs in the NFL and he would be a perfect fit.... He would come in here and have no problem with either Favre or a young QB. What is this boards thoughts on Billick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 Who even knows if I am spelling these names right... personally, my first choice is Billick... this is a guy who has had success with some of the worst QBs in the NFL and he would be a perfect fit.... He would come in here and have no problem with either Favre or a young QB. What is this boards thoughts on Billick? You are joking...right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhinHater Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 You are joking...right I really don't think he is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 What is this boards thoughts on Billick? I think his beer commercials are better than his coaching skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harts724 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 NO f**king way:ahhh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victorjets Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 His "success" was because of the defense with 547 all pro's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 See Todd Boller and you have an answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aec4 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 Who even knows if I am spelling these names right... personally, my first choice is Billick... this is a guy who has had success with some of the worst QBs in the NFL and he would be a perfect fit.... He would come in here and have no problem with either Favre or a young QB. What is this boards thoughts on Billick? This is a guy who was hired to bring an offense to a team t hat already had a good defense. What did he do for that offense? Absolutely nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleDown Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 He's an offensive coach who couldn't get anything going with his offense in Baltimore. QB failures and bottom of the league offenses year after year. He had a terrible relationship with the Baltimore media...it could be a complete disaster in NY. I'll pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsman Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 Everyone join me in saying WE WANT MOOCH!! WE WANT MOOCH!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piney Posted December 30, 2008 Author Share Posted December 30, 2008 I think you guys are over valuing Cohler and under valuing Billick.. I think Billick has the personality to survive NY. I think he had more to do with the success of that team than people are giving him credit for.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aec4 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 I think you guys are over valuing Cohler and under valuing Billick.. I think Billick has the personality to survive NY. I think he had more to do with the success of that team than people are giving him credit for.... Billick is an arrogant prick. I will NOT be happy if Billick is even considered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleDown Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 I think he had more to do with the success of that team than people are giving him credit for.... Possibly, but I would say that Marvin Lewis and the defense were MUCH bigger factors in Baltimore's success. Billick is definitely an offensive minded guy, and the Balitmore's offenses under him were pitiful. There is no getting around that. He's not the worst candidate in the world, but there are many others I would pick over him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borgoguy Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 Everyone join me in saying WE WANT MOOCH!! WE WANT MOOCH!! I will not. You forget the bang up job in Detroit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 Possibly, but I would say that Marvin Lewis and the defense were MUCH bigger factors in Baltimore's success. Billick is definitely an offensive minded guy, and the Balitmore's offenses under him were pitiful. There is no getting around that. The irony, of course, is that defensive minded Lewis went to Cincy and couldn't get anything going on that side of the ball there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piney Posted December 30, 2008 Author Share Posted December 30, 2008 Possibly, but I would say that Marvin Lewis and the defense were MUCH bigger factors in Baltimore's success. Billick is definitely an offensive minded guy, and the Balitmore's offenses under him were pitiful. There is no getting around that. He's not the worst candidate in the world, but there are many others I would pick over him. eh..Lewis isn't exactly doing a bang up job with his defense in Cincy...and the Ravens..even with personnel changes have still had one of the better defenses in the league year in and year out. To me, it shows how a guy can adapt his style of coaching to fit the team he is stuck with. His offense has always had for the most part below average players. He was able to adapt..something I would like to see in a coach coming here...I am sick of waiting two years for a coach to fix the team to fit his vision. Billick understands the short shelf life of a playoff team and doesn't waste time trying to fit square pegs in round holes, he just tries to win however he has to. Cohler on the otherhand will be in a power play and try to shape the Jets to fit his vision. Billick won't waste time doing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aec4 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 I will not. You forget the bang up job in Detroit? Matt Millan, or however you spell his last name..... enough said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 Cohler on the otherhand will be in a power play and try to shape the Jets to fit his vision. While I'm not 100% sold on Cowher, this argument against him doesn't work. The Jets are already a 3-4 defense, and have an offense designed around the running game and physical receivers. The team already fits his vision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleDown Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 The irony, of course, is that defensive minded Lewis went to Cincy and couldn't get anything going on that side of the ball there. Very true, but you can't deny that there is a complete lack of talent on the defensive side of the ball, and there are dysfunctional criminals literally all over the roster. Some of the blame has to go to the GM. Lewis seems like the kind of coach who is much better suited as a coordinator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleDown Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 To me, it shows how a guy can adapt his style of coaching to fit the team he is stuck with. His offense has always had for the most part below average players. He was able to adapt..something I would like to see in a coach coming here...I am sick of waiting two years for a coach to fix the team to fit his vision. He didn't seem very adaptable when he gave Kyle Boller chance after chance to prove himself after it became very clear that he had no business being an NFL QB. His stubbornness actually reminds me of Mangini. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsman Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 I will not. You forget the bang up job in Detroit? i take it my hint of sarcasm wasnt strong enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piney Posted December 30, 2008 Author Share Posted December 30, 2008 He didn't seem very adaptable when he gave Kyle Boller chance after chance to prove himself after it became very clear that he had no business being an NFL QB. His stubbornness actually reminds me of Mangini. where else was he going to go...QBs got hurt there all the time.. it wasn't as if he passed on a QB in favor of Boiler..they brought in other players.... McNair, Redman (right? I forget) Boiler was sort of all he had... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borgoguy Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 i take it my hint of sarcasm wasnt strong enough? Please forgive my transgression, Jetsman. I am still reeling, and in a virtual state of shock, from our abysmal collapse. The comedy and sarcasm radar will be down for, at least, a few more days. How the f**k are we not in the playoffs? (Rhetorical question alert. No response necessary.) You friggin' mush moron Mangini and "coaches". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InstantClassic Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 Because he lost to the Dolphins last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borgoguy Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 Matt Millan, or however you spell his last name..... enough said. I'll give you that Millen is a completely inept tool of a GM, but Moochie was on the sidelines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uart Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 Kyle Boller was a success? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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