124 Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 ProFootballTalk.com WOODY JOHNSON NOT AROUND FOR COACH INTERVIEWS Posted by Josh Alper on January 3, 2009, 6:23 p.m. When the Jets fired Eric Mangini on Monday, owner Woody Johnson said he and G.M. Mike Tannenbaum would quickly start a search for a new coach. The Jets have been busy, interviewing their assistants Bill Callahan and Brian Schottenheimer Friday and Giants defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo today, but Johnson hasn’t been taking part. Johnson hasn’t been present for any of the interviews because he’s on vacation this week. In today’s Daily News, Gary Myers and Rich Cimini report that Johnson’s absence may have had an effect on their pursuit of Bill Cowher. They spoke to a person “with knowledge of the situation.” “Bill Cowher easily could’ve been enticed to coach if Woody Johnson would’ve taken a sit-down meeting with him,” the person said. “Cowher’s camp was told that Woody was out of the country and couldn’t have a sit-down with him.” Adam Schefter reports that he’ll back next week and will start taking part in the process at that point. JETS, SHANAHAN COULD STILL TALK Posted by Mike Florio on January 3, 2009, 9:28 p.m. Late Friday night, the New York Daily News reported that former Broncos coach Mike Shanahan had snubbed the Jets. Now, Adam Schefter of NFL Network reports that the Jets reached out (apparently again) to Shanahan’s representative on Saturday. Per Schefter, Shanahan’s lawyer told the Jets that the coach plans to take two weeks off before considering other opportunities, as Shanahan himself previously told NFL Network. Schefter says it’s possible that the Jets will speak to Shanahan after the two-week window closes. If, of course, they still have a vacancy at that time. When Shanahan was fired, a league source opined to us that the Jets would make a run at Shanahan, if for no reason other than to help sell Personal Seat Licenses at their new stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aec4 Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 NOONE, and I mean NOONE (except Cowher) knows if the BS above is true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 I don't trust anything from pft.com. However, I do believe Adam Schefter. Adam Schefter lives in the Denver area and has very good sources in and around Dove Valley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 But Cimini personally talked to Shanahan while he was on vacation (presumably), and he says there is no way Shanahan comes to the Jets.(presumably, of course) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aec4 Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 But Cimini personally talked to Shanahan while he was on vacation (presumably), and he says there is no way Shanahan comes to the Jets.(presumably, of course) Don't lie.. we all know Cimini played golf with Shanahan then after golf, went to dinner with him, all by the personal invite of Shanahan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aec4 Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 I don't trust anything from pft.com. However, I do believe Adam Schefter. Adam Schefter lives in the Denver area and has very good sources in and around Dove Valley. PFT.com looks like a Rhodes Scholar compared to Cimini. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT STALKER Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 NOONE, and I mean NOONE (except Cowher) knows if the BS above is true. Well. it should be easy to find out if Woody is out of the coutry wouldn't you think? And the hell what is being reported about Cowher because only Cowher could answer that one. Don't you think the owner should be around for the talks though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 Well. it should be easy to find out if Woody is out of the coutry wouldn't you think? And the hell what is being reported about Cowher because only Cowher could answer that one. Don't you think the owner should be around for the talks though? I would think the owner wouldn't leave the country the day after firing the most vital employee in his one billion dollar asset. But I am old fashioned that way. What a joke. Reminds me of Terry Suckway going to Disney that one off-season. The Jets are a very family oriented organization apparently. Terry can tele-commute. Woody fires people and leave the country. That's just swell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aec4 Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 Well. it should be easy to find out if Woody is out of the coutry wouldn't you think? And the hell what is being reported about Cowher because only Cowher could answer that one. Don't you think the owner should be around for the talks though? Yeah, but good luck finding out what Cowher is thinking... I think everyone is entitled to a vacation and talks can happen next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 Don't lie.. we all know Cimini played golf with Shanahan then after golf, went to dinner with him, all by the personal invite of Shanahan. Shanahan wouldn't tell Cimini what he was going to do if Cimini blew him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragmatic Bus Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 I would think the owner wouldn't leave the country the day after firing the most vital employee in his one billion dollar asset. But I am old fashioned that way. What a joke. Reminds me of Terry Suckway going to Disney that one off-season. The Jets are a very family oriented organization apparently. Terry can tele-commute. Woody fires people and leave the country. That's just swell. maybe next season you can use the season ticket money to take a vacation out of the country . you would think jets fan should be there when the season starts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 It's ****ing New Years week!!! Don't people believe in vacations??? It's ridiculous to think that Cowher would be upset at Woody for taking a vacation during New Years week. That aspect of the report is bogus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 we're gonna wind up with shotty or callahan amd mangini's browns and chad's phins will make the playoffs in '09 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted January 4, 2009 Author Share Posted January 4, 2009 we're gonna wind up with shotty or callahan amd mangini's browns and chad's phins will make the playoffs in '09 It will be the AFC Championship Game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 It will be the AFC Championship Game. No chance. There is no way the dolphags win 6 games next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 It's ****ing New Years week!!! Don't people believe in vacations??? It's ridiculous to think that Cowher would be upset at Woody for taking a vacation during New Years week. That aspect of the report is bogus. Come on man, its reported on PFT citing speculation from Cimini. It's gotta be true! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boynton Beach Jets Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 Woody is just proving his commitment to the New York Jets by vacationing in a crucial time to find a head coach. I guess New Years week is not a good week to push for PSL's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 i fthat's really the reason cowher didn't talk to the jets then he wasn't coming here anyway. you're notgoing to be that fickle if you are really interested in the job. it's like going out on a date and then you call the girl the next day and she doesn't want to talk to you anymore cause she says you called too soon. if she was really interested she'd have been happy you called the next day....she obviously just wan't very interested. get it? as far as shanhan goes.....whatever. if he wants to talk to the jets good. if not, then that's ok too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boynton Beach Jets Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 i fthat's really the reason cowher didn't talk to the jets then he wasn't coming here anyway. you're notgoing to be that fickle if you are really interested in the job. it's like going out on a date and then you call the girl the next day and she doesn't want to talk to you anymore cause she says you called too soon. if she was really interested she'd have been happy you called the next day....she obviously just wan't very interested. get it? as far as shanhan goes.....whatever. if he wants to talk to the jets good. if not, then that's ok too. Any top coach or executive wants to see commitment by ownership and Woody shown his commitment by being away when a top coach was available to meet him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 Maybe he just wants to make sure he's interviewed by the owner and not Tannenbaum since he doesn't plan on being Tannenbaum's subordinate. If I were Cowher I'd want to talk to the owner too, seeing how I'd fully intend on having final say on all personnel decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boynton Beach Jets Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 Maybe he just wants to make sure he's interviewed by the owner and not Tannenbaum since he doesn't plan on being Tannenbaum's subordinate. If I were Cowher I'd want to talk to the owner too, seeing how I'd fully intend on having final say on all personnel decisions. Thats exactly what I read at the beginning when he was interested in the Jets it was said he wanted to only meet the owner. He wants to see the commitment of ownership and he wanted to speak Woody about final say on personal decisions. Why do you think Bill Parcells or any top football guy has an out in their contract when their is a change in ownership? It is because they want to make sure the new owner is committed to football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 Any top coach or executive wants to see commitment by ownership and Woody shown his commitment by being away when a top coach was available to meet him ok...so then he would have waited for woody to get back. bottom line is he decided he didn't want to come here, and that's it. there's no way he said, "i was really interested in the job mike, but since woody is out of the country right now, i don't want to even meet with your team now, ever". it sounds ridiculous. you guys can believe whatever you want, truth is that the jets situation looks like crap and head coaches like cowher and shanahan (who are used to have alot of control) are not going to come in and be forced to take a qb they may not like, an OC they may not like, and give up personnel control to a glorified accountant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 Maybe he just wants to make sure he's interviewed by the owner and not Tannenbaum since he doesn't plan on being Tannenbaum's subordinate. If I were Cowher I'd want to talk to the owner too, seeing how I'd fully intend on having final say on all personnel decisions. there ya go. as it is right now, tannenbaum is that man. woody's made that apparent by leaving the initial HC interviews up to him. this is why guys like cowher and shanahan aren't coming here....they want all the control, and they aren't getting it here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boynton Beach Jets Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 ok...so then he would have waited for woody to get back. bottom line is he decided he didn't want to come here, and that's it. there's no way he said, "i was really interested in the job mike, but since woody is out of the country right now, i don't want to even meet with your team now, ever". it sounds ridiculous. you guys can believe whatever you want, truth is that the jets situation looks like crap and head coaches like cowher and shanahan (who are used to have alot of control) are not going to come in and be forced to take a qb they may not like, an OC they may not like, and give up personell control to a glorified accountant. It just shows how committed Woody is to football & the Jets. I am sure Cowher did not want this to hang over him for another 2 weeks the way the media was in a frenzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 Woody is just proving his commitment to the New York Jets by vacationing in a crucial time to find a head coach. I guess New Years week is not a good week to push for PSL's. Damn those vacations taken during a holiday celebrated throughout the world! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 Guys, NFL Today starts at noon on CBS. Cowher has said that he will address his future on today's show. Can we all agree to wait until we hear from him to not buy into the conjecture of historically inaccurate NY sportswriters desperate to scoop each other? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boynton Beach Jets Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 ok...so then he would have waited for woody to get back. bottom line is he decided he didn't want to come here, and that's it. there's no way he said, "i was really interested in the job mike, but since woody is out of the country right now, i don't want to even meet with your team now, ever". it sounds ridiculous. you guys can believe whatever you want, truth is that the jets situation looks like crap and head coaches like cowher and shanahan (who are used to have alot of control) are not going to come in and be forced to take a qb they may not like, an OC they may not like, and give up personnel control to a glorified accountant. What do you have against glorified accountants:confused0082: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boynton Beach Jets Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 Damn those vacations taken during a holiday celebrated throughout the world! The easter bunny does not take off during Easter. When you fire your coach and looking for the future of your team you must realize you should be near home at an important time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BwanaZulia Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 **** Cow-her. BZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 The easter bunny does not take off during Easter. When you fire your coach and looking for the future of your team you must realize you should be near home at an important time. Could not agree more. If the Board fired a CEO of a one billion dollar company and then voted themselves a vacation -- what would the reaction be? Finish the job. Cowher doesn't want to talk to Tanny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 Maybe just maybe Cowher really does not want to coach this year like he has said many times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boynton Beach Jets Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 Could not agree more. If the Board fired a CEO of a one billion dollar company and then voted themselves a vacation -- what would the reaction be? Finish the job. Cowher doesn't want to talk to Tanny. I like Tanny but Woody owed it to the Jets to talk to Cowher. He needs to look under every rock and make sure there is no stone unturned. Cowher is no assistant coach who is looking to skirt the process this is Bill Cowher who can fix your organization, he deserved the respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetkid94 Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 oh no this is a rumor thread. there isnt suppost to be rumor threads on this board.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 oh no this is a rumor thread. there isnt suppost to be rumor threads on this board.... I will say this nicely- we have to show some control over this board-we are very leniant-please do not post every single rumor you hear as facts-use some sort of a link to a story. Now continue on in the search for a new Jets coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 Maybe just maybe Cowher really does not want to coach this year like he has said many times. Basically.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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