It has to be Billick

[Bugg]

Yes, he's arrogant and chock full of crap. And for better or worse that's what this franchise needs. We need someone with some swagger and attitude. What we don't need is ANOTHER assistant in his first head coaching job, figuring it out on the fly.

Billick can coach, look at the record.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/BillBr0.htm

Cowher and Shanahan aren't coming. So forget them.

If Woody Johnson is so concerned about making a splash, Billick will fill the notebooks and tape recorders. He'll be out front babbling his head off. He has a ring.

And bigger than all that-he can coach. The knock has been that as a offensive genius, he never really turned around the Ravens offense. That also speaks of a guy who's flexible, who isn't necessarily going to go crazy installing HIS SYSTEM, that he'll work with the talent on hand. He hires good assistants-Donnier Hnderson and Marvin Lewis-to run his defense. And turn that "unsuccessful offenisve guru"on it's head-even without a real QB, he managed to stay competitive and then some in the same division as Bill Cowher. And he probably got the better of Cowher most of the time.

I'd dismiss his leaving Baltimore under a cloud. He was there a long time-9 years- and somehwere between complacency on his part and his players having heard everything he had to say and tuning him out, it had more to do with staying too long than being a bad coach.

Now, Spags and Rex might be creat coaches someday. Concern is they will learn here,and become the great coach they will be elsewhere.We need someone here now who can take this job now. The upside to Billick is his ego. He wants to be in this market, and he wants to win. Yes, he loves the sound of his own voice. If he wins, I couldn't care less. Plus given his fall in Baltimore he will work with Tannebaum.

Billick makes the most sense. Make it happen, Woody.

[Green DNA]

I's rather catch the crabs than hire Billick. Rex Ryan is at the top of my list with Spags 2nd. Enough of the retreads. I want to see an attacking defense that keeps us in every game.

[aec4]

Donnie Henderson never ran his defense. He was a DB coach. Donnie Henderson never ran anyone's defense well.

[Klecko73isGod]

Yes, he's arrogant and chock full of crap. And for better or worse that's what this franchise needs. We need someone with some swagger and attitude. What we don't need is ANOTHER assistant in his first head coaching job, figuring it out on the fly.

Billick can coach, look at the record.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/BillBr0.htm

Cowher and Shanahan aren't coming. So forget them.

If Woody Johnson is so concerned about making a splash, Billick will fill the notebooks and tape recorders. He'll be out front babbling his head off. He has a ring.

And bigger than all that-he can coach. The knock has been that as a offensive genius, he never really turned around the Ravens offense. That also speaks of a guy who's flexible, who isn't necessarily going to go crazy installing HIS SYSTEM, that he'll work with the talent on hand. He hires good assistants-Donnier Hnderson and Marvin Lewis-to run his defense. And turn that "unsuccessful offenisve guru"on it's head-even without a real QB, he managed to stay competitive and then some in the same division as Bill Cowher. And he probably got the better of Cowher most of the time.

I'd dismiss his leaving Baltimore under a cloud. He was there a long time-9 years- and somehwere between complacency on his part and his players having heard everything he had to say and tuning him out, it had more to do with staying too long than being a bad coach.

Now, Spags and Rex might be creat coaches someday. Concern is they will learn here,and become the great coach they will be elsewhere.We need someone here now who can take this job now. The upside to Billick is his ego. He wants to be in this market, and he wants to win. Yes, he loves the sound of his own voice. If he wins, I couldn't care less. Plus given his fall in Baltimore he will work with Tannebaum.

Billick makes the most sense. Make it happen, Woody.

Brian Billick and Jon Gruden are living proof that having a Super Bowl ring does not in any way prove that you are a good coach.

Two offensive "geniuses" who won with defensive focused teams.

Billick never built an offense in Baltimore. He never maximized the talent they had on offense. His teams were terribly inconsistent.

I do not understand for the life of me why anyone thinks this guy is a good coach.

[Bugg]

Brian Billick and Jon Gruden are living proof that having a Super Bowl ring does not in any way prove that you are a good coach.

Two offensive "geniuses" who won with defensive focused teams.

Billick never built an offense in Baltimore. He never maximized the talent they had on offense. His teams were terribly inconsistent.

I do not understand for the life of me why anyone thinks this guy is a good coach.

Barry Switzer proves that. Gruden and Billick do not.

Concern is we get another guy who think he has to reinvent the wheel with his big ideas rather than simply take this talent and win games. Billick is old and experienced enough to understand what this is all about. I have great respect for both Rex and Spags, but they would be doing this for the first time if they got this job.

Understand this-Mangini and Edwards both gave great interviews. What did that get us?

[Bergen Jet]

Billick never built an offense in Baltimore. He never maximized the talent they had on offense.

I am pretty sure he had a top 10 scoring offense in 2006 while having a defense that allowed the fewest points. I know he was top 10 in 2003.

[aec4]

Im not a huge fan of Billick...

BUT

Bugg makes a good point. At least he'll try to enhance what is there and not just blow it up (ie Mangini, Herm).

[glenn212]

You talk about a coach losing a team..(Which we find out Mangini did NOT) Billick lost the team before our eyes Ravens vs the Pats last year..I don't think any player came to Billick defense after he got bagged..Brian Billick..please

[Matt39]

I've always liked Billick. That swagger and arrogance rubs off on a team, in a good way imo.

The guy can coach. I wouldn't consider him a retread.

[Klecko73isGod]

I am pretty sure he had a top 10 scoring offense in 2006 while having a defense that allowed the fewest points. I know he was top 10 in 2003.

Twice in 10 years from an offensive genius? Pass. Billick excels in one area - press conferences.

[Klecko73isGod]

Barry Switzer proves that. Gruden and Billick do not.

Concern is we get another guy who think he has to reinvent the wheel with his big ideas rather than simply take this talent and win games. Billick is old and experienced enough to understand what this is all about. I have great respect for both Rex and Spags, but they would be doing this for the first time if they got this job.

Understand this-Mangini and Edwards both gave great interviews. What did that get us?

Gruden absolutely proves that point. First coach ever to have back to back losing seasons after winning a Super Bowl (with Tony Dungy's team I might add.)

We'll see just how worthless Gruden is next year now that Kiffin is gone.

[Matt39]

Gruden absolutely proves that point. First coach ever to have back to back losing seasons after winning a Super Bowl (with Tony Dungy's team I might add.)

We'll see just how worthless Gruden is next year now that Kiffin is gone.

Gruden did pretty well in Oakland, too.

[NorthCoastJetsFan]

If the Jets had enough talent, I would agree with Bugg. But I don't think they do.

The defensive line, outside of Jenkins, is marginal. The LBs, as a group, do not seem suited for any scheme, be in 3-4 or 4-3. None of them can cover anyone and it looks to me like we all over-rated David Harris. In the secondary, Revis is great, Rhodes is inconsistent, Elam hits hard when he finds someone and Lowery is still learning.

I'll say the offensive line is the strongest part of the team, but there is no quarterback and no big-play receivers. Leon is our only home-run hitter, Jones is a workmanlike back.

I don't like saying this, but except for Revis and Leon, there is not one player on this roster that, in the long run, would be a disaster to lose. The next coach, whoever he is, will be tearing down and rebuilding. Just the way every new coach does.

[Bugg]

You talk about a coach losing a team..(Which we find out Mangini did NOT) Billick lost the team before our eyes Ravens vs the Pats last year..I don't think any player came to Billick defense after he got bagged..Brian Billick..please

Nobody should coach any team for that long, something Billick would probably agree with. The coach gets set in his ways and probaby gets rote and lazy. And players have heard everything he has to say, so they tune him out. That's simply the reality of anyone staying in the same workplace for too long, not bad coaching.And if the big problem is worrying about year 9 after 8 years of solid football and a Lombardi, sign me up.

[SoFlaJets]

Mike Shanahan and then maybe Rex Ryan-I saw blitz schemes coming from directions I never seen them come from Sunday against Miami

[Klecko73isGod]

Gruden did pretty well in Oakland, too.

And once he was gone, Bill friggin Callahan brought that team to the SB.

Gruden's offense his first year in Tampa was worse than it was in Dungy's last year. Callahan got bigger numbers out of the same offense in Oakland than Gruden got.

Callahan deserves more credit for that Oakland team than he gets.

[#27TheDominator]

Barry Switzer proves that. Gruden and Billick do not.

Concern is we get another guy who think he has to reinvent the wheel with his big ideas rather than simply take this talent and win games. Billick is old and experienced enough to understand what this is all about. I have great respect for both Rex and Spags, but they would be doing this for the first time if they got this job.

Understand this-Mangini and Edwards both gave great interviews. What did that get us?

Mangini gave great interviews? I assume you mean with the team. Billick will be okay with the press, but sign me up in the "NO!" camp. I have family in Baltimore and they constantly second guessed him down there. I don't think he's any genius, offensive or otherwise, and he's an arrogant prick. That will wear off very quickly in NYC. Just once I'd like a ****ing coach I wanted to root for and not in spite of. I think the last one the Jets had was Carroll and before that Walt Michaels. I also don't want anybody blowing up a pretty good team, but Brian Billick? Not what I'm looking for.

And once he was gone, Bill friggin Callahan brought that team to the SB.

Gruden's offense his first year in Tampa was worse than it was in Dungy's last year. Callahan got bigger numbers out of the same offense in Oakland than Gruden got.

Callahan deserves more credit for that Oakland team than he gets.

While Callahan is on our list, who deserves credit for the 4-12 the following year?

[piney]

Billick allows his coordinators to coach on their own, something everyone says was Manigini's problem. Everyone likes to say he had nothing to do with the defenses of the Raven's through the years he was the coach, well to me, that is a good thing. It shows he gets great coaches to run that side of the ball, which is illustrated by how many of his assistants become head coaches.

His offense was not as big of a problem as people want tto let on, this guy only coached to a record under .500 3 times in 9 seasons.

In 2006 after he fired Jom Fassel as offensive coordinator and took over the job himself, the team went on a tear...and scored a ton of points.

I don't know what kind of offense people wanted to see.....but to say this guy is a fraud coach is just not looking at the job.

[RSJ]

Put me in the neutral camp on this one. With the right coordinators Billick would be a safe choice.

[Jetman_67]

Billick would be the ideal choice for HC of the NYJ!!!! The guy is a no nonsense coach. Under him the Ravens were consistently in the playoffs. Under him the Ravens won a superbowl.

Enough of this BS about being a offensive or defensive genius!!! He is a FOOTBALL COACH!!!!

[Fishooked]

Billick did more with less talent on offense than any team I can remember. I mean, lets look at some of the QBs they had there, and they still had winning records most of the time.

I mean Tony Banks, Elvis Grbac, Kyle Boller, JEFF BLAKE, TRENT DILFER?

I could live with him as HC.

He is kind of an arrogant douche, but maybe thats what this team needs.

Plus he gets my vote for making that kissy-face to Rodney Harrision against NE LOL

[Irish Jet]

Billick did more with less talent on offense than any team I can remember. I mean, lets look at some of the QBs they had there, and they still had winning records most of the time.

I mean Tony Banks, Elvis Grbac, Kyle Boller, JEFF BLAKE, TRENT DILFER?

I could live with him as HC.

He is kind of an arrogant douche, but maybe thats what this team needs.

Plus he gets my vote for making that kissy-face to Rodney Harrision against NE LOL

He had one of the greatest defenses to EVER play the game.

NO to Brian Billick. He rode a defense that he had very little to do with to the SB, their offense was HORRIBLE in Baltimore and they were winning those game in spite of what their offense was doing.

Please don't bring this guy in!

[piney]

He had one of the greatest defenses to EVER play the game.

NO to Brian Billick. He rode a defense that he had very little to do with to the SB, their offense was HORRIBLE in Baltimore and they were winning those game in spite of what their offense was doing.

Please don't bring this guy in!

to me that is exactly what I want.....let him come in and bring in a DC and let that DC do his job.

Billick's greatness is in his ability to delegate. And when his coordinator did not get the job done (fassell) he took over and they improved....

bring me a coach, not a micro manager

[Jet Moses]

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[Sperm Edwards]

to me that is exactly what I want.....let him come in and bring in a DC and let that DC do his job.

Billick's greatness is in his ability to delegate. And when his coordinator did not get the job done (fassell) he took over and they improved....

bring me a coach, not a micro manager

Ability to delegate responsibility to others can define an NFL HC's greatness?

[Bugg]

1999 through 2007, head to head with Cowher-each had 3 division championships, 1 wildcard berth, 1 Super Bowl win. If Cowher is so wonderful, why is Billick any less so if he achieved the same thing in the same division at the same time?

I no longer care if he's a douchebag or a humanitarian. So the fact that Billick is villified and Cowher is beloved is simply irrelevant,or should be.

[Jetman_67]

What more of an endorsement does one really need?

As far as I am concerned, they can hire Billick right now. The Jets have my permission

[Sperm Edwards]

Well now the final obstacle is out of the way!

[piney]

Ability to delegate responsibility to others can define an NFL HC's greatness?

it is one part of it....at least for Billick...not trying to force a square peg in a round hole...knowing when to sit back and when to get involved....

to me, a very important part of being an HC

[Blackout]

LOL @ thread