#90 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Inside the Jets organization, who was the main person in favor of the Jets picking Gholston with that 6th overall pick? Was it Mangini? Was it Tannenbaum? The fans deserve to know. The guy is Mike Mamula II and that MISS will be costing the team for many years to come. Someone out there must know the real story of who in the Jets organization feel in love with this scrub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 The rush to judgment gets quicker every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 I want this guy to be a star so bad but not to help this team. I hope you guys get what I'm trying to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyHector Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Inside the Jets organization, who was the main person in favor of the Jets picking Gholston with that 6th overall pick? Was it Mangini? Was it Tannenbaum? The fans deserve to know. The guy is Mike Mamula II and that MISS will be costing the team for many years to come. Someone out there must know the real story of who in the Jets organization feel in love with this scrub. You can't be a "Mike Mamula" if your draft position went basically unchanged based on your combine performance. Mamula was a 3rd round pick from a lesser program who jumped into the Top 10 based on his combine performance. Gholston was a Top 10 pick from a powerhouse who performed well at the combine, cementing his status at the top of the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4HCrew Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Probably the same people that were behind drafting Revis and Leon Washington Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Right now Gholston is the great unknown. He's a major disappointment so far, because he didn't get on the field. IMHO, he should've been coached up as best as possible as just a pass rusher, and thrown to the wolves. Let him play at NFL speed on obvious passing downs. Even let him put his hand on the ground if that made him more comfortable. He's a young, gifted athlete who -by all reports- is extremely disappointed with his own rookie year and is anxious to turn it around. Let's see how he looks after the benefit of a full offseason with some (hopefully!) better defensive coaches before we give him the bust label. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GandWFan Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 He obviously cares, since he hired LT to coach him in the off season. He is not just sitting back collecting his millions. That is a good sign for future success. He has the natural ability. If he puts in the work, he will be a good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 I know some fans want the instant gratification. Gholston was a project from the get-go. Someone like Mayo was a polished product. A known variable. Someone like Gholston is an unknown variable that needs time. I stand by my initial opinion on him, if he doesn't show some life next year then I say cut him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChadLover Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 I know some fans want the instant gratification. Gholston was a project from the get-go. Someone like Mayo was a polished product. A known variable. Someone like Gholston is an unknown variable that needs time. I stand by my initial opinion on him, if he doesn't show some life next year then I say cut him. I do think it is too early to judge but why take a project with the sixth pick when there are "polished products" out there? Is his upside that much better? Even if it is and that was their thinking it was a risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vudu Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 From day one I was on Darren McFadden. With our Oline this season, he wouldve had a good year. I never wanted Gholston, but i accepted it because its what my team wanted. HE BLOWS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetfan13 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Probably the same people that were behind drafting Revis and Leon Washington POTW NOM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonehands Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Gholston is not a Mike Mamula type because Mamula actually showed he could play a little bit. Check his career stats, not a star, but far from a total bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 From day one I was on Darren McFadden. With our Oline this season, he wouldve had a good year. I never wanted Gholston, but i accepted it because its what my team wanted. HE BLOWS! Mcfadden is average anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drago Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Mcfadden is average anyway. Below average if you watch the bum. He's fast but that's it...great pick Oakland. I love this thread, the poster must be assuming that the jets were the only team that had Gholston rated in the top 10. What a joke. Had we not taken him, he'd have been scooped up within the next pick or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Inside the Jets organization, who was the main person in favor of the Jets picking Gholston with that 6th overall pick? Was it Mangini? Was it Tannenbaum? The fans deserve to know. The guy is Mike Mamula II and that MISS will be costing the team for many years to come. Someone out there must know the real story of who in the Jets organization feel in love with this scrub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Below average if you watch the bum. He's fast but that's it...great pick Oakland. I love this thread, the poster must be assuming that the jets were the only team that had Gholston rated in the top 10. What a joke. Had we not taken him, he'd have been scooped up within the next pick or two. True. Pretty much looked like the player I thought he was. Great straight ahead speed, with zero moves after he hits the hole. Why he was labeled "a cant miss" stud was beyond me. Then again, I never saw what people saw in Gholston either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 McFadden plays in Oakland - Immune to all things good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJ667 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 From day one I was on Darren McFadden. With our Oline this season, he wouldve had a good year. I never wanted Gholston, but i accepted it because its what my team wanted. HE BLOWS! if they couldn't get leon washington the ball enough to satisfy the fans, how the hell would they satisfy them with Thomas Jones, Leon Washington, and Darren McFadden. btw, leading up to the draft, i really don't remember too many people clamoring for someone other than McFadden or Gholston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 McFadden plays in Oakland - Immune to all things good! Ashomuga or however you spell it. McFadden was outplayed by Bush and Fargas. I really could never understand the hype behind this kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Inside the Jets organization, who was the main person in favor of the Jets picking Gholston ub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJ667 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 From day one I was on Darren McFadden. With our Oline this season, he wouldve had a good year. I never wanted Gholston, but i accepted it because its what my team wanted. HE BLOWS! Ashomuga or however you spell it. McFadden was outplayed by Bush and Fargas. I really could never understand the hype behind this kid. well if ol grey beard retires, maybe the Jets will have just enough cap room, to sign one big name free agent, maybe mike t can work the number and the negotiating skills to get Nnamdi Asomugha in green and white. they already have the personnel to be a fearsome pass rushing team, they did lead the league at one point, with he and revis, things should be better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFanBird Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Gholston has nothing but upside/potential. He will have a full offseason and training camp with the team this year, plus one season of learning a new position behind him can't hurt. With his athletic ability and willingness to improve (the meetings with LT) I honestly believe he will be a valuable asset to the team this upcoming year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Gholston will be fine, will he ever live up to his pick in the draft? Who knows... but he will be a good player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed3 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 I just talked to a huge OSU fan about Gholston. He said Gholston would be amazing in some games, and non-existent in others. It wasn't the opposing team's double-teaming, it was his play. He is a streaky player that will either be a beast or be a ghost. Combine that little tid-bit with last year's limited playing time... guess what we saw? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 The Patrioits were responsible for the Gholston pick. The Jets thought NE had him in their sights. But, the Pats never wanted him in the first place. Mike Vrabel (OSU Alum) worked out with Gholston during the off season sizing him up. Not Patriot material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 The Patrioits were responsible for the Gholston pick. The Jets thought NE had him in their sights. But, the Pats never wanted him in the first place. Mike Vrabel (OSU Alum) worked out with Gholston during the off season sizing him up. Not Patriot material. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 The Patrioits were responsible for the Gholston pick. The Jets thought NE had him in their sights. But, the Pats never wanted him in the first place. Mike Vrabel (OSU Alum) worked out with Gholston during the off season sizing him up. Not Patriot material. So basically he wouldn't let Vrabel pitch and him catch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodWearsAGrayHoodie Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 I know some fans want the instant gratification. Gholston was a project from the get-go. Someone like Mayo was a polished product. A known variable. Someone like Gholston is an unknown variable that needs time. I stand by my initial opinion on him, if he doesn't show some life next year then I say cut him. Why draft "a project" with the 6th pick overall? Even if Gholston eventually surpasses Mayo the only way Gholston's 4 year contribution to the Jets surpasses Mayo's four year contribution to the Patriots is if Mayo gets injured. I can understand drafting a project on the second day. Matt Cassel was a project. He would not have been able to do what he did this year his first two year with the Pats but he was a 7th rounder being paid a very small salary. Gholston was a high draft pick and very expensive cap wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Why draft "a project" with the 6th pick overall? Even if Gholston eventually surpasses Mayo the only way Gholston's 4 year contribution to the Jets surpasses Mayo's four year contribution to the Patriots is if Mayo gets injured. I can understand drafting a project on the second day. Matt Cassel was a project. He would not have been able to do what he did this year his first two year with the Pats but he was a 7th rounder being paid a very small salary. Gholston was a high draft pick and very expensive cap wise. I was just busting your balls. But since you asked I think it was a crap spot and they wanted to trade up but couldnt' get a reasonable enough deal and by the time that ended they were locked into the position. Trust me I would have LOVED to have done what the Patriots did and while I don't agree with the pick we made I understand why we did it. I'm not gonna rip this organization who in the past couple of years has made some pretty good picks. Gholston was GOING to be taken in the top 10, and I'll give up on him after next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed3 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 I guess the idea is that despite his limited football resume and subsequent position change in the NFL... Gholston's physique, strength and speed make him a physical marvel that can be shaped into a one-of-a-kind football player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 The Jets probably would've taken Mayo if they didn't have David Harris on the team already... They were just in a different posission... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4HCrew Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 I get why so many want to pick on Gholston but for me the more concerning player is Kellen Clemens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 I get why so many want to pick on Gholston but for me the more concerning player is Kellen Clemens. How about the rest of the awful 2008 draft? Or the boar hunter in the 3rd round? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4HCrew Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Every team can be criticized...For me Clemens is a major disappointment. For every boar hunter there is Leon.. Not every team has the luck of the Giants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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