Bravejamriot Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 In a sign that former Jets coach Eric Mangini believes he has an excellent chance of landing the Browns' head-coaching job, Mangini is starting to assemble a staff and one of his targets is current Jets assistant head coach Bill Callahan, a source said. This could be the start of an attempted raid of the Jets' staff by Mangini. Callahan, who coaches the offensive line, is under contract and the Jets aren't required to grant permission for the Browns to speak with him. Unless an assistant wants to interview for a head-coaching job, it's deemed a lateral move and his current team isn't obligated to let him go. Another wrinkle is the fact that Callahan interviewed for the Jets' head-coaching vacancy. He's not considered a frontrunner, but he's a well-respected coach and it's unlikely the Jets would let him out of his contract. http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/jets/2009/01/mangini-looking-to-raid-jets-s.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 I hope the Jets hire a def minded head coach and keep both Schott and Callahan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetswin Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 I'm pretty sure the new Jets head coach will be allowed to assemble his own staff, if the Jets are going to insist on assts. remaining the job may indeed be a tough sell. That being said I think Callahan did a pretty good job this year, would like to see him remain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 I'm pretty sure the new Jets head coach will be allowed to assemble his own staff, if the Jets are going to insist on assts. remaining the job may indeed be a tough sell. That being said I think Callahan did a pretty good job this year, would like to see him remain. True on all accounts. I'd want Callahan to stay as well. Poor Browns fans if they get Mangini. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 If Mangini wants Sutton, I won't stand in his way. And how come no one ever interviews Mike Westoff for HC vacancies? He's got more balls than the rest of the Jets' staff combined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsman Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 If Mangini wants Sutton, I won't stand in his way. And how come no one ever interviews Mike Westoff for HC vacancies? He's got more balls than the rest of the Jets' staff combined. i would personally pay for his flight to cleveland, take Bob I want him out !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudicus Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Tanny is not beyond recommending an assistant or coach so maybe Jags is more about checking on a coordinator than a coach. He's helped develop O-lines and a good QB and uses the same blocking scheme as Callahan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 I hope the Jets hire a def minded head coach and keep both Schott and Callahan. Why? Let the new coach pick his staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Tanny is not beyond recommending an assistant or coach so maybe Jags is more about checking on a coordinator than a coach. He's helped develop O-lines and a good QB and uses the same blocking scheme as Callahan. And as an accountant he's clearly qualified to be picking assistant coaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 And as an accountant he's clearly qualified to be picking assistant coaches. in case u didnt see http://www.jetnation.com/forums/showthread.php?t=69880 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Take em all .. except Westhoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Take em all .. except Westhoff i want callahan , he did great IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 in case u didnt see http://www.jetnation.com/forums/showthread.php?t=69880 I saw but every time I say anything about the great classes Schiano is bringing in it just turns into a RU hater circle jerk so i might as well just leave it alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 i want callahan , he did great IMHO Russ Grim is coming.. Maybe Jagozinski(sp?) to teach zone blocking.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Oh no Eric, don't take Sutton!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Russ Grim is coming.. Maybe Jagozinski(sp?) to teach zone blocking.. The Jets don't have zone blocking personnel... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Jagoniski sucks. Obrien brought in the guys he succeeded with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 The Jets don't have zone blocking personnel... Outside of Woody they'd be ok imo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Outside of Woody they'd be ok imo... The only prototypical zone blocker the Jets have is D'brick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bravejamriot Posted January 7, 2009 Author Share Posted January 7, 2009 Jets can block Callahan because of his Assistant Head Coach title. I'd expect them to do so even if they don't want Callahan on the next staff. Remember Heimendinger? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenn212 Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 True on all accounts. I'd want Callahan to stay as well. Poor Browns fans if they get Mangini. Damn dude get off mangini's dick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Outside of Woody they'd be ok imo... Woody along with Mangold was probably our best offensive player this season. He was absolutely fantastic at RT this season. I wouldn't do anything to jeopradize what this offensive line done last season, that's an area where continuity is critical. I hope Callahan stays and continues to work with that group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Damn dude get off mangini's dick WTF, the thread is about MANGINI!!! Hello? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serphnx Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 lol the new coach isn't allowed to pick his staff? Truly the Jets are the Oakland Raiders East, the only other team I know of that will pull a stunt like that. Only the Jets and Raiders will fire a HC, citing he is a bad coach and blaming the CS, and then turn around and insist on keeping the staff. Especially for a guy like Mangini, who gave a lot of leeway to his assistant coaches. If the Jets get a decent HC, it is extremely likely most of the assistants are gone. It is also common courtesy to allow assistant coaches out of their contracts when you fire the HC so that they can find another job. Only the most desperate coaches (ie, failures or with no track record at all) will work for a franchise under those conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 lol the new coach isn't allowed to pick his staff? Truly the Jets are the Oakland Raiders East, the only other team I know of that will pull a stunt like that. Only the Jets and Raiders will fire a HC, citing he is a bad coach and blaming the CS, and then turn around and insist on keeping the staff. Especially for a guy like Mangini, who gave a lot of leeway to his assistant coaches. If the Jets get a decent HC, it is extremely likely most of the assistants are gone. It is also common courtesy to allow assistant coaches out of their contracts when you fire the HC so that they can find another job. Only the most desperate coaches (ie, failures or with no track record at all) will work for a franchise under those conditions. Where did you get this from? The way I see it, Tannenbaum is playing it cool with regards to the other coaches. They're under contract with the Jets until a new HC dismisses them. Now if it comes out that a new HC wants to bring in his own staff and isn't allowed to fire Schottenheimer, Sutton, Callahan, or even Westhoff (however unlikely), then I'll join you in bashing them. But there hasn't even been a hint of this even being a remote possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4HCrew Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 What is Westhoff's contract status? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green DNA Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 What is Westhoff's contract status? I heard on the radio (FAN?) that the assistants have one year left on their contracts. The Jets are smart to hang on to them for now at least, why let Mangini have the pick of the litter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 I heard on the radio (FAN?) that the assistants have one year left on their contracts. The Jets are smart to hang on to them for now at least, why let Mangini have the pick of the litter. Then it looks like his firing was even better-timed. If he gets fired when the assistants' contracts are up we could lose everyone (read: the ones we want). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 Then it looks like his firing was even better-timed. If he gets fired when the assistants' contracts are up we could lose everyone (read: the ones we want). Just curious Sperm but did Mangini have one year left on his contract when Woody fired him ? Seems odd he was signed to a 3 year deal and the rest of the CS 4 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 Just curious Sperm but did Mangini have one year left on his contract when Woody fired him ? Seems odd he was signed to a 3 year deal and the rest of the CS 4 years. Mangini was signed to a 4-year contract. He was fired 1 year before his contract was up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 Mangini was signed to a 4-year contract. He was fired 1 year before his contract was up. Thanks Sperm. Now I'm even more enraged. WTF not just let him finish that 4th year ? Especially after Woody said that he'd be back in 09'. I'm convinced that Woody wanted a big name coach here to sell those PSL's and THAT was the main motive in removing Mangini. Same reason he brought in Favre. That move back fired when we failed to make the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 Thanks Sperm. Now I'm even more enraged. WTF not just let him finish that 4th year ? Especially after Woody said that he'd be back in 09'. I'm convinced that Woody wanted a big name coach here to sell those PSL's and THAT was the main motive in removing Mangini. Same reason he brought in Favre. That move back fired when we failed to make the playoffs. It makes me less enraged, not more enraged. Otherwise even coaches we want to retain are free to go elsewhere since they're not under contract either. Winning sells PSL's. When we got Favre, I can count on one hand the people who thought it was a bad move for the Jets team and only a good move for PSL sales. Mangini failed, and that is why he was fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docdhc Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 It makes me less enraged, not more enraged. Otherwise even coaches we want to retain are free to go elsewhere since they're not under contract either. Winning sells PSL's. When we got Favre, I can count on one hand the people who thought it was a bad move for the Jets team and only a good move for PSL sales. Mangini failed, and that is why he was fired. I am not sure this is true. Many people had reservations but we all got caught up in the excitement of having a Hall of Famer come here and give the Jets instant credibility. He also was the anti-Chad who had worn out his welcome because of his physical limitations. The fact is, though, Favre performed much like he has over the last 3-4 years. Good sometimes, but wreckless taking care of the ball and costing his team some big games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 I am not sure this is true. Many people had reservations but we all got caught up in the excitement of having a Hall of Famer come here and give the Jets instant credibility. He also was the anti-Chad who had worn out his welcome because of his physical limitations. The fact is, though, Favre performed much like he has over the last 3-4 years. Good sometimes, but wreckless taking care of the ball and costing his team some big games. Before we got him, I posted a long list of Favre's failures over his recent past. He got owned quite a bit by good (or even decent) pass defenses. Chicago, for instance, was eating him alive twice a year. But hey, he sure did well against those great pass defenses in Detroit & Minnesota. No one wanted to hear it. All they saw was 28 TD's, 15 INT's, and over 4000 yards. But once we got him, there were very few people stricken with an acute case of "Oh no!" syndrome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 It makes me less enraged, not more enraged. Otherwise even coaches we want to retain are free to go elsewhere since they're not under contract either. Rarely do coaches reach the final year of their contracts, anyway. If the Jets were going to keep Mangini for 2009, they would've extended him to 2010. Winning sells PSL's. When we got Favre, I can count on one hand the people who thought it was a bad move for the Jets team and only a good move for PSL sales. Mangini failed, and that is why he was fired. I'm one of those. So are you, IIRC. If Favre was never brought in here, Mangini would still be the coach here. I don't necessarily think that would've been a bad thing. I think coaches grow on the job. He's a smart guy, he must be learning. There's no one on the Jets' list of interviewees that stands out to me as an obviously better head coach than Eric Mangini. It's easy to unload someone you're not entirely happy with. The trick is bringing in someone's who's actually better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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