uart Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Georgia quarterback Matthew Stafford and running back Knowshon Moreno, who led the SEC in passing and rushing this season, respectively, are expected to announce Wednesday that they will enter April's NFL draft. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft09/news/story?id=3815504&campaign=rss&source=ESPNHeadlines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uart Posted January 7, 2009 Author Share Posted January 7, 2009 Stafford could be a very high pick. Moreno is from New Jersey, and therefore is obviously excellent at everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetscode1 Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 I like both players but not sure Stafford is there when we are on the clock or if we go RB like Knowshon. More good players to watch in another uniform... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Knowshon will be there when we pick, Stafford won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uart Posted January 7, 2009 Author Share Posted January 7, 2009 I don't think RB and QB are our biggest needs anyway, but if either of these guys were available for us, they'd be a good get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachTsurfing Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 I don't think RB and QB are our biggest needs anyway, but if either of these guys were available for us, they'd be a good get. Before the year I'd say RB was a major need. Only because Leon wasn't seeing the field and T.J. coudln't find the endzone. I really believe that Leon could easily have more carries and make us even more balanced and dangerous. Maybe the new coach will see that. T.J. had a great year. Might have to do with some of the new additions on the line. I think QB is a huge need for us right now. Favre is not coming back. I just feel it. If Stafford falls from the top spot we need to trade to move up. Sanchez might be good. It's easy to play with a lead though. And usc's defense is always so good. So who knows how he will be in the pros. Tebow intrigues me. Living in Florida all we get is Tebow crammed down our throats. But, the kid has a good arm, obviously good wheels, and makes good decisions. I think he will be around in the second round also if we want to take a chance. But, my first choice is to move up and grab Stafford, if not get the best wr left or db. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Knowshon is expected to make the announcement with his High School coach in NJ. He is as good as gone. Stafford is supposedly making the annoucement with Richt in Athens. I gotta a feeling Stafford is staying put. The Mannings, Matt Ryan and another high profile QB have told him he could use the extra year. I expect him to stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gang_green03 Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 If they're smart they'll both be headed for the pros, especially Stafford. He's a lock for the 1st round and there's probably little chance he falls out of the top 15. When you have the chance to be the #1 overall pick, you don't pass that up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Both players IMO are horribly overrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Stafford = Garbage. Moreno = Best back in last 10 years not named Adrian Peterson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Moreno = Best back in last 10 years not named Adrian Peterson. LOL, we'll see. I think he'll be an average back who may do well if given the right situation. Like Thomas Jones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 LOL, we'll see. I think he'll be an average back who may do well if given the right situation. Like Thomas Jones. Arn't you on the BEANIE WELLS bandwagon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Arn't you on the BEANIE WELLS bandwagon? Beanie Wells > Knowshon Moreno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Beanie Wells > Knowshon Moreno :rl: :rl: :rl: This is hilarious. If anyone is Thomas Jones, it is Beanie Wells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Beanie Wells = A beast He does need to run with more consistency though. He has great speed for a guy his size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Knowshon is expected to make the announcement with his High School coach in NJ. He is as good as gone. Stafford is supposedly making the annoucement with Richt in Athens. I gotta a feeling Stafford is staying put. The Mannings, Matt Ryan and another high profile QB have told him he could use the extra year. I expect him to stay. I was wrong. I thought for sure Stafford would stay. They are both gone. I want Stafford in Green and White. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 I was wrong. I thought for sure Stafford would stay. They are both gone. I want Stafford in Green and White. Is he that good? I know nothing of college ball, I know Pac-10 Players name, people talk about players at work. I heard Mark Sanchez is good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Knowshon will be there when we pick, Stafford won't. Even if Bradford declares? #2 QB's have been sliding of late, I'm thinking we could move into the 11 area and grab him.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleDown Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Even if Bradford declares? #2 QB's have been sliding of late, I'm thinking we could move into the 11 area and grab him.. If Bradford, Stafford, and Sanchez all declare, one of them is bound to drop to us. Also, maybe there will be a dark horse ala Flacco who is there for the taking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 I don't want Stafford. He's just not consistent enough and not accurate enough to be relied upon as a franchise QB. There is one QB I like in this draft and it's the Heisman Trophy winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Is he that good? I know nothing of college ball, I know Pac-10 Players name, people talk about players at work. I heard Mark Sanchez is good? I think he is the best prospect in the country. Better than Bradford. I dont trust any Oklahoma Qb, especially knowing the Bradford hasnt seen only faced 1 top 70 ranked defense all year long. I am not buying the hype. Stafford has all the tools. I dont think he is going to be the type of Qb that can step into the league right away ala Flacco and Ryan. But, I do think that if you give him some time to learn the system and get used to the speed of the NFL he will be a very productive QB in the NFL. This is kind of crazy, but he reminds me of Elway. HUGE arm, great mobility, serious competitor. He will make some risky throws, but for the most part he manages the game well. He possess all the natural ability you want at the position. I watch a lot of SEC football and have seen a ton of UGA games. Every time that kid steps back in the pocket, he looks like an NFL stud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 If Bradford, Stafford, and Sanchez all declare, one of them is bound to drop to us. Also, maybe there will be a dark horse ala Flacco who is there for the taking. I wouldn't take Sanchez in the first, but if he fell to the secong he'd more than merit consideration. Agreed that there probably will be others who emerge from now until April. Hopefully becuase we could sure as Hell do with a franchise QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleDown Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 I wouldn't take Sanchez in the first, but if he fell to the secong he'd more than merit consideration. Agreed that there probably will be others who emerge from now until April. Hopefully becuase we could sure as Hell do with a franchise QB. I've heard differing opinions on Sanchez, and supposedly he made huge strides in his development this year. I wouldn't write him off just yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 I think he is the best prospect in the country. Better than Bradford. I dont trust any Oklahoma Qb, especially knowing the Bradford hasnt seen only faced 1 top 70 ranked defense all year long. I am not buying the hype. Stafford has all the tools. I dont think he is going to be the type of Qb that can step into the league right away ala Flacco and Ryan. But, I do think that if you give him some time to learn the system and get used to the speed of the NFL he will be a very productive QB in the NFL. This is kind of crazy, but he reminds me of Elway. HUGE arm, great mobility, serious competitor. He will make some risky throws, but for the most part he manages the game well. He possess all the natural ability you want at the position. I watch a lot of SEC football and have seen a ton of UGA games. Every time that kid steps back in the pocket, he looks like an NFL stud. Interesting. I'm guessing they use a more normal system right? Like I know the Ducks here in Oregon use a spread formation which I think just is asking for trouble drafting a QB out of that system. Regardless I dont' know if we have the best situation to "develop" a young QB unless he's thrown right into the fire. Our O-line in pass block isn't too bad, and we have a RB that could break down at any time. TJ is at that "age" where it mysteriously disappears for these guys. Anyways, I trust ANYONE'S opinion on college football, I can't tell stud from dud. I just read up on people prior to the draft and think of our needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicBizkit87 Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 I think it's hysterical that nearly everyone in the world was saying the Georgia Bulldogs were probably locks to win the SEC, and probably win the National Championship as well. What bowl were they in, again? The Crapital one bowl? I swear I usually root for SEC teams in their bowl games, but Georgia is the one team I just can't do it. I hate their team, I hate their fans, I hate every single thing about them. Noshow Moreno, I think will be good Matt Sackedford, I think is the next Kellen Clemens... a bust, but picked earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 I think he is the best prospect in the country. Better than Bradford. I dont trust any Oklahoma Qb, especially knowing the Bradford hasnt seen only faced 1 top 70 ranked defense all year long. I am not buying the hype. Stafford has all the tools. I dont think he is going to be the type of Qb that can step into the league right away ala Flacco and Ryan. But, I do think that if you give him some time to learn the system and get used to the speed of the NFL he will be a very productive QB in the NFL. This is kind of crazy, but he reminds me of Elway. HUGE arm, great mobility, serious competitor. He will make some risky throws, but for the most part he manages the game well. He possess all the natural ability you want at the position. I watch a lot of SEC football and have seen a ton of UGA games. Every time that kid steps back in the pocket, he looks like an NFL stud. Dude looked pretty crappy against MSU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Dude looked pretty crappy against MSU. Really? He played bad in the first half and basically won the game for them in the 2nd. He was on fire. That throw he had over the middle where he looked the safety off and put a 35 yard rope on the numbers was very impressive. And then the TD to the TE over his outside should in the endzone was an absolute perfect throw. He completed passes to 8 different people. 20-31, 250 yrds, 64.5%, 3 TD, 1 INT. Not too bad if you ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 I think it's hysterical that nearly everyone in the world was saying the Georgia Bulldogs were probably locks to win the SEC, and probably win the National Championship as well. What bowl were they in, again? The Crapital one bowl? I swear I usually root for SEC teams in their bowl games, but Georgia is the one team I just can't do it. I hate their team, I hate their fans, I hate every single thing about them. Noshow Moreno, I think will be good Matt Sackedford, I think is the next Kellen Clemens... a bust, but picked earlier. Trust me, I hate the Bulldogs with a passion. But people beating this team up over this season is kind of ridiculous. This team was ravished by injuries. They lost to Bama, granted it was at home, but at the time Bama looked unbeatable. They lost to Florida. We own them...and we are a decent team. They lost to Georgia Tech. GT made one of the greatest comebacks I have ever seen. They won their bowl game holding Ringer to 47 yards. UGA was not as bad as everyone made them out to be, its just the fact they were preseason #1. Many people correctly predicted the Gators to win the SEC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 recent history has proven junior quarterbacks fail when they come out early. the only one i can think of that did ok was Big Ben, and he was a rs junior before he left Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Even if Bradford declares? #2 QB's have been sliding of late, I'm thinking we could move into the 11 area and grab him.. Yes. Bradford's a lock for 1 as of now, but Stafford's too naturally gifted to slip that far. Bradford is hands down the more complete prospect, but Stafford's upside borders on absurd levels. You've got teams like KC, St. Louis, San Fran, Chicago...etc. One of them is going to grab Stafford before us. That being said, Bradford's going to be ready to start from day one if needs be, Stafford is not as his transition is going to take time, which is going to hurt his value, especially with a team like Detriot who needs someone immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 moreno will be the first or second runningback taken.........guy is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 moreno will be the first or second runningback taken.........guy is good. I have followed him since he was in high school since he is a local kid. I know the Jets won't draft him but I am going to be rooting for him in the pros anyhow. So it would be nice... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gang_green03 Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Yes. Bradford's a lock for 1 as of now, but Stafford's too naturally gifted to slip that far. Bradford is hands down the more complete prospect, but Stafford's upside borders on absurd levels. You've got teams like KC, St. Louis, San Fran, Chicago...etc. One of them is going to grab Stafford before us. That being said, Bradford's going to be ready to start from day one if needs be, Stafford is not as his transition is going to take time, which is going to hurt his value, especially with a team like Detriot who needs someone immediately. Do you mean he's a lock for #1 overall? I don't think its a slam dunk at all. Stafford's got a much better shot at #1 overall. I could easily see teams rate Stafford ahead of him because his tools are much better and the intangibles aren't worlds apart. I completely disagree with you about Bradford being ready from day 1. If anything Stafford is more NFL ready than him since he's been in the pro style Georgia offense since he was a freshman. One of the biggest problems with Bradford is that he's in that Oklahoma offense. I think he'll take at least a year to get used to a pro offense. He's very smart though so I guess I could see him picking up an offense quickly but he's not more NFL ready than Stafford IMO. That being said I'd love the Jets to grab him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 Do you mean he's a lock for #1 overall? I don't think its a slam dunk at all. Stafford's got a much better shot at #1 overall. I could easily see teams rate Stafford ahead of him because his tools are much better and the intangibles aren't worlds apart. I completely disagree with you about Bradford being ready from day 1. If anything Stafford is more NFL ready than him since he's been in the pro style Georgia offense since he was a freshman. One of the biggest problems with Bradford is that he's in that Oklahoma offense. I think he'll take at least a year to get used to a pro offense. He's very smart though so I guess I could see him picking up an offense quickly but he's not more NFL ready than Stafford IMO. That being said I'd love the Jets to grab him. It's not so much the offenses that they come from as much as it is their skill-sets. Bradford's intelligence, accuracy, mechanics...etc. Really the only thing that Stafford has on him is physical measurables, but it's not like Bradford struggles with the deep ball. Shotgun offenses don't really hurt a prospect's value anyways...spread options do, but that's not what he's played in. Stafford's footwork and and accuracy need a good amount of work as well as his ability to diagnose coverages. It's going to take some time for him to adjust to not being able to get away with some of the things he's gotten away with at the college level. Once their pro days and also the combine comes, the gap between them is going to get that much wider after they have both break down schemes and interview. As of now, Bradford most certainly has the higher grade on everyone's board for the time being. Detroit supposedly loves him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 Sam Bradford really reminds me of a smarter non-douchebag version of Philip Rivers. They have very similar mechanics and both are very effective. I think he'll be a very good QB and I'd be more than willing to invest big money in him to get him. Unfortunately there's absolutely no way the Jets will be in a position to draft him. Like others have said, I can't see him getting by Detroit. Stafford on the other hand I can see slipping however I don't like him. I've seen a lot of him and he's too inconsistent and innacurate. People love him for his arm strength, I don't buy into that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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