Steveg Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Click Here.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetkid94 Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 this is more of his oppinion rather than spags really proving hes number 1. I want spags but from this article it sounds like his interview didnt go great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 ... Spags leads race for HC of the NYJ January 9, 2009 Twelve days into the coaching search. Based on what I hear and what I think, here's how the race is shaping up. 1. Steve Spagnuolo, Giants DC: Didn't blow away the Jets in his first interview, but cut him some slack. He had other interviews and a playoff game to prepare for. Woody Johnson wants to make a big splash and, with Bill Cowher out of the mix, Spagnuolo would do it because of his Giants connection. One concern: Spags runs a 4-3 and the Jets are reluctant to bail on the 3-4. 2. Brian Schottenheimer, Jets OC: Yes, Schottenheimer. Some in the organization see him as a rising star. Remember, he was a finalist for the Miami and Baltimore jobs in '07 and '08, respectively. He'd provide continuity on offense, but it would be a tough sell to the fans. 3. Rex Ryan, Ravens DC: The media would love him because he's liable to say anything, shades of his dad, Buddy. His track record as a defensive coach is impeccable. Questions: Is he the beneficiary of great talent? Why did his own team not hire him last year when Brian Billick was fired? Still hasn't interviewed. 4. Russ Grimm, Cards AHC: Came close to landing the Bears and Steelers jobs in recent years. A commanding presence, good motivator. Maybe he could teach D'Brickashaw Ferguson how to run-block. Would bring a physical, smashmouth mentality to the team. On the downside, he has no experience as a coordinator. Interviewed yesterday for the job. 5. Mike Shanahan, former Broncos HC: Why do I get the feeling he could jump back into play when he returns from vacation? 6. Bill Callahan, Jets AHC: This is what one NFC assistant coach told me yesterday: "He ran two programs into the ground" - the Raiders and Nebraska. Already has interviewed. 7. Ron Meeks, Colts DC: Interviews today. Well-respected coach, but he runs the Tony Dungy system - a 4-3, Tampa-2. Been there, done that. He's a minority candidate, which puts the Jets in compliance with the Rooney Rule. 8. Brian Billick, former Ravens HC: Fading. No interview scheduled. 9. Jeff Jagodzinski, former Boston College coach: Lots of time on his hands. Already interviewed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsnts725 Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 why the **** is Schott even a candidate. He's a terrible coach -.- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleDown Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 I think it's going to be either Ryan or Grimm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 4. Russ Grimm, Cards AHC: Came close to landing the Bears and Steelers jobs in recent years. A commanding presence, good motivator. Maybe he could teach D'Brickashaw Ferguson how to run-block. Would bring a physical, smashmouth mentality to the team. On the downside, he has no experience as a coordinator. Interviewed yesterday for the job. Am I the only one that doesnt think it matters if you have it? Who cares? You need to know how to run a team and make sure your players and coaches are performing at a top level every week... hire a good OC and DC and it doesnt matter... actually ti would work out better... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green DNA Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Am I the only one that doesnt think it matters if you have it? Who cares? You need to know how to run a team and make sure your players and coaches are performing at a top level every week... hire a good OC and DC and it doesnt matter... actually ti would work out better... Been there, done that with the no coordinator experience : Herm Edwards. When you think about it, Mangini barely had any either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Been there, done that with the no coordinator experience : Herm Edwards. When you think about it, Mangini barely had any either. True... but I just mean... they dont need to be great at as OC/DC if they understand the game and can bring out the best in their staff and players... but if they are good and can not micromanage like mangini.. then I guess that is better... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green DNA Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 True... but I just mean... they dont need to be great at as OC/DC if they understand the game and can bring out the best in their staff and players... but if they are good and can not micromanage like mangini.. then I guess that is better... I personally want Rex Ryan. After the crap we put up with this year, I want a madman on the sidelines. Even if he isn't successful at least it would be entertaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 ... Gawd I hope Little Shotty doesn't get it. Ryan or Sprags for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 is ron rivera on the jets radar at all anymore ? I'd be very bummed if he doesn't even get an interview Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 I personally want Rex Ryan. After the crap we put up with this year, I want a madman on the sidelines. Even if he isn't successful at least it would be entertaining. Couldnt be any worse... at least they would play to win and play hard for the coach... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 is ron rivera on the jets radar at all anymore ? I'd be very bummed if he doesn't even get an interview I watched Ryan's defense last week. I know the Dolfags suck offensively, but I like the aggressive 3-4. Even Pennington was talking about how tough it is to figure and he is a brain. I do remember thinking that their LBs are a lot different than ours, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJ667 Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 waiting until the Rex Ryan interview before i believe any list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 I personally want Rex Ryan. After the crap we put up with this year, I want a madman on the sidelines. Even if he isn't successful at least it would be entertaining. I want Spags. He turned that Giants defense around. I would definitely take a shot at him. Gholston can play end in the 4-3 and they will have an attacking defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 Am I the only one that doesnt think it matters if you have it? Who cares? You need to know how to run a team and make sure your players and coaches are performing at a top level every week... hire a good OC and DC and it doesnt matter... actually ti would work out better... Gimm is being overrated right now, I want nothing to do with his ass. I want either Ryan or Spags, right now, I'd perfer Ryan because Spags runs a 4-3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 But Grimm? I want to move forward not backwards. WTF! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 I have to admit that Grimm never being a coordinator makes him less favorable to me. He's never been the overseer of a team's offense or a team's defense. Now he's going to oversee both of those plus special teams? He could end up being a great HC I suppose, but it's a tough sell. Particularly since our HC before Mangini had that similar handicap experience-wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen X Jet Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 Ugh. Hopefully this is misinformation because I really don't have patience to go back to a 4-3. Who is our Justin Tuck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJ667 Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 I have to admit that Grimm never being a coordinator makes him less favorable to me. He's never been the overseer of a team's offense or a team's defense. Now he's going to oversee both of those plus special teams? He could end up being a great HC I suppose, but it's a tough sell. Particularly since our HC before Mangini had that similar handicap experience-wise. here's the strange thing about that, John Harabaugh was in charge of special teams, Jim Zorn was a QB coach and tony sparano was an O-line coach. all it comes down to is guys believing in your system, and getting to bust their ass for you. if he's the best at getting the Jets to do it, then sign him. I don't want a big splash coach, i want the best guy for this team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 I want either Spags or Ryan. And UNTIL Spags comes out and says that he's going to implement a 4-3 defense on the team that he goes to, I'm going to just assume he'll stick with the 3-4. Everyone on here complains that a good coach should put his players in the best position to win, well moving to a 43 is not what is best for our team, and if he is going to do that than he's obviously not putting our players in the best position to win...Thus, not being the best candidate. He isn't going to be our DC and if he's such a defensive genius, he should be able to adapt. Look at Tomlin, everyone thought he was going to switch to a Tampa 2 when he took over and now they have had one of the best defenses in the league with their 34 the last two years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 Am I out of my mind for us to run a "hybrid" 3-4/4-3 D? I mean, mix and match and move your linemen/LB's around to expose the best match ups. Put Pace or Gholston (if he develops) down on the line. IMO having Jenkins is great for this because perhaps he can go from playing the 3-4 NT two gap system to a 4-3 single gap attack position. JMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachTsurfing Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 Gawd I hope Little Shotty doesn't get it. Ryan or Sprags for me. agreed, but grimm would be acceptable also. I just want someone that change and flow with the game. Put our players in a position to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Bit Special Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 1. Steve Spagnuolo, Giants DC: Didn't blow away the Jets in his first interview, but cut him some slack. He had other interviews and a playoff game to prepare for. Woody Johnson wants to make a big splash and, with Bill Cowher out of the mix, Spagnuolo would do it because of his Giants connection. One concern: Spags runs a 4-3 and the Jets are reluctant to bail on the 3-4. Are they serious? I'd love to use that excuse next time I have a job interview. "Sorry, I have other interviews so I wasnt my best today." BULLSH!T. He cant handle an interview while preparing for other stuff he's not ready to be a head coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 Are they serious? I'd love to use that excuse next time I have a job interview. "Sorry, I have other interviews so I wasnt my best today." BULLSH!T. He cant handle an interview while preparing for other stuff he's not ready to be a head coach. That isn't true. If they asked him what specific changes he would make to turn around the Jets he wouldn't be prepared to answer that. Because he hasn't had time to think about the Jets. He is busy game planning for the Eagles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 Say no to Grimm!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 Am I out of my mind for us to run a "hybrid" 3-4/4-3 D? I mean, mix and match and move your linemen/LB's around to expose the best match ups. Put Pace or Gholston (if he develops) down on the line. IMO having Jenkins is great for this because perhaps he can go from playing the 3-4 NT two gap system to a 4-3 single gap attack position. JMO It would be nice. I used to enjoy being at the game and trying to figure out what defense they were running. Under Mangini it was just too vanilla. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 It would be nice. I used to enjoy being at the game and trying to figure out what defense they were running. Under Mangini it was just too vanilla. Agreed. Honestly they could do SO much with that type of defense. You could put Pace on the edge and load Harris right next to him and fake the pass rush with Pace, have Jenkins 2 gap those guys and have Harris run right in. You could disguise things so much better then Mangini's D. Was it just me or did it feel like the LB's were always far off the LS? Never felt like we loaded unless it was 3rd and short. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 Agreed. Honestly they could do SO much with that type of defense. You could put Pace on the edge and load Harris right next to him and fake the pass rush with Pace, have Jenkins 2 gap those guys and have Harris run right in. You could disguise things so much better then Mangini's D. Was it just me or did it feel like the LB's were always far off the LS? Never felt like we loaded unless it was 3rd and short. One good thing about Mangini's defense this year. Calvin Pace got plenty of cardio work in. It was nice watching him jog all over the field covering tight ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 One good thing about Mangini's defense this year. Calvin Pace got plenty of cardio work in. It was nice watching him jog all over the field covering tight ends. Ugh... I think I felt like this most the time seeing that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 I watched Ryan's defense last week. I know the Dolfags suck offensively, but I like the aggressive 3-4. Even Pennington was talking about how tough it is to figure and he is a brain. I do remember thinking that their LBs are a lot different than ours, though. rivera has the better pedigree imho. he played for ryans dad, coached under jim johnson in philly during thier NFC champ game runs, and was the co-ordinator for the bears SB team, and has lead the turnaround in SD he had the friggen SD defense ready for peyton manning ! they were ready for all his LOS shenanigans very impressive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 I want either Spags or Ryan. And UNTIL Spags comes out and says that he's going to implement a 4-3 defense on the team that he goes to, I'm going to just assume he'll stick with the 3-4. Everyone on here complains that a good coach should put his players in the best position to win, well moving to a 43 is not what is best for our team, and if he is going to do that than he's obviously not putting our players in the best position to win...Thus, not being the best candidate. He isn't going to be our DC and if he's such a defensive genius, he should be able to adapt. Look at Tomlin, everyone thought he was going to switch to a Tampa 2 when he took over and now they have had one of the best defenses in the league with their 34 the last two years. That's LeBeau's defiense, I don't think Tomlin touches it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJ667 Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 I want either Spags or Ryan. And UNTIL Spags comes out and says that he's going to implement a 4-3 defense on the team that he goes to, I'm going to just assume he'll stick with the 3-4. Everyone on here complains that a good coach should put his players in the best position to win, well moving to a 43 is not what is best for our team, and if he is going to do that than he's obviously not putting our players in the best position to win...Thus, not being the best candidate. He isn't going to be our DC and if he's such a defensive genius, he should be able to adapt. Look at Tomlin, everyone thought he was going to switch to a Tampa 2 when he took over and now they have had one of the best defenses in the league with their 34 the last two years. well then who is the Jets Dick LeBeau, Bob Sutton, i think not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 well then who is the Jets Dick LeBeau, Bob Sutton, i think not Bob Sutton & Dick LeBeau mentioned in the same sentence. Makes me lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 well then who is the Jets Dick LeBeau, Bob Sutton, i think not But honestly, I want Spags, he runs the 4-3 but I can see a quick transition to a 3-4 or even Spags modifying the current 3-4 a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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