Pragmatic Bus Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 SAVE THIS | EMAIL THIS | Close Posted: Wednesday January 7, 2009 10:02PM; Updated: Wednesday January 7, 2009 10:02PM Peter King>INSIDE THE NFL Speed of Mangini hiring makes for compelling, risky move by Browns Story Highlights The Browns will name ex-Jets coach Eric Mangini as Romeo Crennel's successor Cleveland made its hire before waiting to speak to any coaches still in the playoffs The immediacy of the hire may dog the team if a bypassed coach becomes great In a moment, I'll get to the question for the Cleveland Browns of "Why Eric Mangini, and why now?'' It's a surprise, obviously, but once Cleveland owner Randy Lerner figured he couldn't entice Scott Pioli to become the Browns' general manager, Lerner was going to go for the best coach on the market. Mangini convinced Lerner eight nights ago that his ties to Bill Parcells and Bill Belichick made him that man. But first, a few thoughts about what's next, which might be just as compelling as the hiring of Mangini. I think Lerner will next hire a worker-bee general manager. That might not be the end of the remaking of his front office. I believe Lerner will try to entice a big name to serve as the kind of Parcells-type overseer to his front office (Mike Holmgren, perhaps) who could help Mangini and the new, young general manager chart the long-term course for the Browns' future. I'm not sure if that's smart, or just a desperate reaction to losing Pioli. But I don't think Lerner will hire a GM next, then just let the team percolate. Now for the story of why Lerner hired Mangini, fired nine days ago by the Jets. The former Browns' PR intern will be introduced as head coach Thursday morning at the club's training facility in Berea, Ohio. When Lerner decided to replace his general manager, Phil Savage, and his head coach, Romeo Crennel, one of the things he was adamant about was getting an out-front leader for the franchise as part of his new coach/management team. Lerner figured that would be Pioli, the vice president of player personnel for the New England Patriots who helped build a skidding franchise into a three-time Super Bowl champion. Lerner and Pioli met for about seven hours last Wednesday, and Lerner was sure Pioli was the top candidate to come in and rebuild his team. But Pioli never gave Lerner the indication that he was prepared to take the job. A source close to Lerner told SI.com that, contrary to some reports, Pioli was never offered the job, nor was he given a deadline by which time he had to accept or reject the job. The Lerner source also said Pioli never made any demands that gave Lerner cold feet. Lerner felt Pioli might go somewhere else (Kansas City, perhaps), or he might return to the Patriots. Lerner felt if he waited for Pioli to make up his mind, he might be waiting a week or two, or maybe longer, and there was no guarantee he'd get Pioli. Also, he wasn't convinced he'd be able to convince the other big name on the market, fired Denver coach Mike Shanahan, that the Browns' job was the perfect one for him. So he interviewed four coaches -- Mangini; his own defensive coordinator, Mel Tucker; Giants defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo; and New England offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels. He liked Mangini far and away the best. In the interview, Mangini stressed how much he'd learned coaching at the right hand of Parcells (with the Jets) and Belichick (with the Jets and Patriots) and he talked chapter and verse about what he'd learned in his three years coaching the Jets. Lerner, as did many of his peers around the league, felt Mangini got a raw deal in New York. Who fires a 37-year-old coach with winning seasons in two of his first three years? In the end, Lerner was so smitten with Mangini that he chose him over the superb young quarterback tutor, McDaniels, and he chose not to wait for any of the coaches on the eight teams in the playoffs -- names like defensive coordinators Rex Ryan and Jim Schwartz of the Ravens and Titans, respectively. Surely he'll be questioned about that decision at the Thursday press conference. Why not wait? No other team was lining up to steal Mangini from him. It's a question that will dog this franchise if one of the candidates Lerner bypasses goes on to great coaching career. But what Lerner will say, I'm sure, is some variation of this: I was convinced that Mangini was our man, so there was no reason for me to wait. It's a compelling, risky decision by Lerner. It makes the Browns a compelling team in 2009. Find this article at: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/peter_king/01/07/mangini.browns/index.html SAVE THIS | EMAIL THIS | Close Check the box to include the list of links referenced in the article. Copyright � 2007 CNN/Sports Illustrated. ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 ... it tells me Pioli is not a confident man Hiding behind mumbles I had this pegged a while ago Pioli is a fraud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragmatic Bus Posted January 10, 2009 Author Share Posted January 10, 2009 it tells me Pioli is not a confident man Hiding behind mumbles I had this pegged a while ago Pioli is a fraud i have this fear that tannenbaum = pioli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 i have this fear that tannenbaum = pioli could be Mike T is just an accountant and Pioli fetches some good java Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gainzo Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 it tells me Pioli is not a confident man Hiding behind mumbles I had this pegged a while ago Pioli is a fraud I'm happy with him staying in Foxboro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 I'm happy with him staying in Foxboro. Good coffee in Foxhole he makes a mean Hazlenut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragmatic Bus Posted January 10, 2009 Author Share Posted January 10, 2009 could be Mike T is just an accountant and Pioli fetches some good java and cut the sleeves off of belly's hoodies, those hoodies dont cut themselves u know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 did you see the espn bottom line today ? something like 3 guys have taken their name out of the GM spot consideration AFTER mangini's hiring lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 did you see the espn bottom line today ? something like 3 guys have taken their name out of the GM spot consideration AFTER mangini's hiring lol Seems to be a backwards way of doing things, hiring a coach before a GM. You're creating a shotgun wedding either way. I don't dislike Mangini, but I'm at a loss why the Browns were in such a hurry. There's no other team out there clamoring to hire him. And how does King get off speaking so well of Mangini after ripping him(rightfully) for the last month and a half? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 I'm happy with him staying in Foxboro. I bet you are Gainz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 did you see the espn bottom line today ? something like 3 guys have taken their name out of the GM spot consideration AFTER mangini's hiring lol Interesting that Pioli was out before Mangini was hired. Sounded a little weird between Lerner and Pioli. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Seems to be a backwards way of doing things, hiring a coach before a GM. You're creating a shotgun wedding either way. I don't dislike Mangini, but I'm at a loss why the Browns were in such a hurry. There's no other team out there clamoring to hire him. And how does King get off speaking so well of Mangini after ripping him(rightfully) for the last month and a half? That's what kills me about these sports writers and they ALL do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Interesting that Pioli was out before Mangini was hired. Sounded a little weird between Lerner and Pioli. Pioli is not a confident fan the Gints offered him the job before Reese Best thing to ever happen to them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Interesting that Pioli was out before Mangini was hired. Sounded a little weird between Lerner and Pioli. Pioli strikes me as a guy who may not be all that confident in his own ability. Everybody seems to want this guy but he doesn't seem all that interested in putting himself on the line being the guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 That's what kills me about these sports writers and they ALL do it. Correct. Sportswriters and talking heads are NEVER wrong. Just last week, Boomer picked the Dolphins to beat the Ravens during the pregame show and even looked at Marino like he was insane when he predicted a Ravens win. After the game, Boomer was doing his analysis sounding like a Ravens win was a forgone conclusion and that anyone who thought the Dolphins had a shot was a drooling idiot. I guess he forgot he was one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Correct. Sportswriters and talking heads are NEVER wrong. Just last week, Boomer picked the Dolphins to beat the Ravens during the pregame show and even looked at Marino like he was insane when he predicted a Ravens win. After the game, Boomer was doing his analysis sounding like a Ravens win was a forgone conclusion and that anyone who thought the Dolphins had a shot was a drooling idiot. I guess he forgot he was one of them. It's called selective memory Kleck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMaynard Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 And how does King get off speaking so well of Mangini after ripping him(rightfully) for the last month and a half? That's easy. Mangini is no longer associated with the Jets. I hope that fat, skunk haired, dildo King dies a horrible death. And I don't mean that in a bad way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 it tells me Pioli is not a confident man Hiding behind mumbles I had this pegged a while ago Pioli is a fraud He's no different from everyone who is associated with that franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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