Maxman Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 When Does The Coles Contract Saga Begin? January 15, 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragmatic Bus Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 sign that Beast!... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnjet Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 trade his ass to philly for lito sheppard! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTJ06 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Just say NO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsman Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 probably about 10 minutes after we sign our new coach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 He will be traded or cut if the new coach doesnt want him... he is not untouchable.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
war ensemble Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Let him walk--he's washed up. I'd rather have Stuckey or Clowney out there then overpay for Coles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason423 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 I figure right around March we start to hear the rumors of how he is unhappy and how this is now his 3rd coach with the Jets and this is not what he signed up for. I can only imagine how it will get come April if the Jets draft a wide receiver. They made a huge mistake guaranteeing his contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 He will be traded or cut if the new coach doesnt want him... he is not untouchable.. His money is guaranteed. He is pretty much untouchable as far as being cut. If he isn't he might as well be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJ667 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Max wanna start an over/under, i say the date should be april 27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indygirl4jets Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 I think he is a whiner. Let him go, he's not as good as he thinks he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelticwizard Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Laveranues approached Gang Green about a contract extension but the Jets were not interested. Coles then began to skip offseason programs, In all these years, has he ever held out? I don't mean skipping offseason programs-offseason is offseason. I mean not showing up when training camp starts-has he ever done that? If the answer is no, then where's the problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 In all these years, has he ever held out? I don't mean skipping offseason programs-offseason is offseason. I mean not showing up when training camp starts-has he ever done that? If the answer is no, then where's the problem? What would his reasoning be for holding out? He's always been signed before training camp. What player signs a contract a month before TC and then holds out when it kicks off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelticwizard Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 He's always been signed before training camp. My point is that there is no problem with Coles. He asks for more money a lot but after a little negotiating, he shows up at training camp at a price the Jets feel they can afford for him. In a league chock full of problem players whose antics are spread across headlines and TV, I cannot believe all the hand-wringing and discussion about Coles, a non-problem player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Max wanna start an over/under, i say the date should be april 27 It'll be sooner than that. No way he holds off bitching until after the draft, where the Jets are as likely as anyone to draft another WR. My guess is it'll be in February. In early March, just after the season officially begins, at the very latest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Coles I think will have played his last game with the Jets IMO-one of our priorities will be to go and get a real deep threat this year at WR. I know I have gotten tired of his constant talking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSorDIE Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 send him to miami Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joiseyjet Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 send him to miami Trade him straight up for Porter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetfan13 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Trade him straight up for Porter. Youre kidding right? Trade a percieved big mouth for the king of big mouths? In the NY metro area? NO THANKS... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 I figure right around March we start to hear the rumors of how he is unhappy and how this is now his 3rd coach with the Jets and this is not what he signed up for. I can only imagine how it will get come April if the Jets draft a wide receiver. They made a huge mistake guaranteeing his contract. That they did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 send him to miami No thanks. Trade him Tampa Bay for a 4th round pick. Gruden loves his receivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gun Of Bavaria Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Great Article Tyson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 No thanks. Trade him Tampa Bay for a 4th round pick. Gruden loves his receivers. But, his 7 Mil wouldnt come of the books. Can the Jets afford that big of a hit? I would rather have a younger draft pick thats less expensive and take a cut in production. Deon Branch type player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 But, his 7 Mil wouldnt come of the books. Can the Jets afford that big of a hit? Yes, his $7 million would come off the books on a trade. It's just like a baseball trade. His new team would assume his guaranteed salary. The salary is on the Jets cap only it they retain him or cut him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotReign37 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Yes, his $7 million would come off the books on a trade. It's just like a baseball trade. His new team would assume his guaranteed salary. The salary is on the Jets cap only it they retain him or cut him. Didnt know that. I thought guarateed salary would treated like signing bonus. Doesnt that make it more difficult to trade him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJ667 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Yes, his $7 million would come off the books on a trade. It's just like a baseball trade. His new team would assume his guaranteed salary. The salary is on the Jets cap only it they retain him or cut him. also his 7 million isn't that bad of a cap number for a team to take on. besides it would probably be only for a year, although the team he's traded to, he'd want a new contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Didnt know that. I thought guarateed salary would treated like signing bonus. Doesnt that make it more difficult to trade him? As to the first part, no, guaranteed salary isn't treated like signing bonus. It's like the situation with vested veterans. Vested veterans are veterans who have been in the NFL for a certain amount of years and, as such, are guaranteed their yearly salary if they are on the opening day roster. Accordingly, many teams cut such a veteran right before the first game and re-sign them right after it so they won't be on the hook for the whole year's salary even if they cut him. If such player is on the opening day roster, they can trade him and the new team assumes the salary. As to the second part, it would be more difficult to trade him, but no different than when the Jets traded for Favre. Favre was to make $12 million in 2008. Thus, the Jets had to assume that salary. In fact, Favre is a vested veteran and since he was on the opening day roster if the Jets had cut him in week 2 (besides the whole side agreement with the Packers for the 2 extra 1st rounders), the Jets would have been on the hook for the full $12 million. So, in a nutshell, the new team will either have to assume Coles $7 million obligation, or make a new contract with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norway'sWaddlingMarmaloof Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 I think the worst part is that there is no viable alternative on the free agent market. We're not going to be be big players for Housh I don't think, and don't like the idea of giving a WR on the wrong side of 30 big money anyway. Gonna have to stick with LC for one more year, hopefully we take a big deep threat early in the draft, and he's ready in '10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThisYearsModel Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Trade him to Miami for an old Larry Csonka helmet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vudu Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 His money is guaranteed. He is pretty much untouchable as far as being cut. If he isn't he might as well be. I thought the NFL didnt have Guaranteed contracts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 I thought the NFL didnt have Guaranteed contracts? They don't, unless the team chooses to guarentee it. Coles was guarenteed his final two seasons ($11 million total) by the Jets last summer so he would stop talking about wanting a new contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2008/12/new_york_jets_coles_looking_fo.html With all the talk of who will still be with the Jets next season, wide receiver Laveranues Coles refused to address his future after the Jets' 24-17 loss to the Dolphins. Coles, who lobbied for a new contract last offseason and was instead guaranteed the final two years of his contract at $11 million, still wants a long-term deal and he'll likely talk to the club in the coming weeks. "That's not something that prudent now," said Coles, who had four catches for 88 yards and a touchdown Sunday. "We just lost a ballgame." Coles, a ninth-year pro, was promised by the organization that it would revisit his contract following the season if he stayed quiet and stayed healthy. He did both. Coles finished with 70 catches for 850 yards and seven touchdowns. He was second to wideout Jerricho Cotchery (71-858-5) in receptions and yardage. And, according to someone close to him, he played nearly the entire season with a torn left quad muscle. That person spoke on the condition of anonymity because he's not authorized to speak for Coles or the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Coles is officially a thug turd. I hope he leaves, the quicker the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelticwizard Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 Yes, how dare he hire agents who effectively know how to pester front offices into giving their client a good deal. Why, the nerve of that man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetophile Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 Coles has always been one of those receivers that defied elite because you can't fake being 6'4". He is a tough SOB, though, so let's be fair. As much as he resented Pennington being shipped out, Chad used to get him killed in the end. I reckon the locker room is all about alliances and chemistry before you step one foot on the field in the NFL. Coles isn't any more or less 'weird' than John Riggins...but he should just shaddup at this point and enjoy his creepy mansion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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