Maxman Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 By Joe Grinwis http://www.jetnation.com/?p=2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 19, 2009 Author Share Posted January 19, 2009 The Case For Clemens January 18, 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 i agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Anybody but Brett Favre in 09...Clemens, Ratliff, Ainge I don't care...lets do what Baltimore is doing, what Atlanta is doing-give the kid a chance-one of them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 19, 2009 Author Share Posted January 19, 2009 I was a huge Clemens supporter when he played two years ago. That team was terrible and I don't know what a QB could have done to help, it was that bad. I thought he showed a lot of potential even though the results weren't there. Today? I am not writing him off completely. But every account I have heard or read says that he has stepped back from that point. He didn't look good in camp this year, Pennington would have beaten him out for the job. And although practices are closed, there are rumblings that he did not do well this year. So I don't think it is the fans that aren't going to give him a chance. It could be that the Jets have seen enough. Hopefully though the new regime comes in and keeps an open mind. Having the QB of the future on the roster already is better than the alternative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsnts725 Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 I'm glad to see that SOMEONE still supports Clemens... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gun Of Bavaria Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Clemens has regressed. I'm not ready to annoint Ratliff the second coming of Jesus, but let's see what the guy has in camp. That said, QB has to be mission for Tannenbaum in the offseason. If Favre isn't coming back, we're going to at least need a veteran to throw in the mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Clemens has regressed. I'm not ready to annoint Ratliff the second coming of Jesus, but let's see what the guy has in camp. That said, QB has to be mission for Tannenbaum in the offseason. If Favre isn't coming back, we're going to at least need a veteran to throw in the mix. having that veteran back-up is way over rated IMO....To throw a Ratliff, Ainge or Clemens off the team for say a Brad Johnson or Vinny T has proven to not be any advantage at all...for all Herm's faults, I liked what he did with that young QB this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 BRING BACK BRETT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 The Case For Clemens January 18, 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Clemens has regressed. I'm not ready to annoint Ratliff the second coming of Jesus, but let's see what the guy has in camp. That said, QB has to be mission for Tannenbaum in the offseason. If Favre isn't coming back, we're going to at least need a veteran to throw in the mix. How can you say that? We never got a real chance to see him play in '08. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 bring back brett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gun Of Bavaria Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 How can you say that? We never got a real chance to see him play in '08. I'm not saying that they shouldn't give him a chance, not at all. Just saying if Favre bails, and you head into camp with Ratliff, Ainge and Clemens you're rolling the dice as a staff. Of course, this will be Ryan's team [hopefully], so all bets are off until we see his coaching and management style. Also, by veteran, I meant someone that could actually come in and play, not hold a clipboard like Vinny or Brad Johnson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 [quote name='Blackout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudicus Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 An open competiton is a good idea, the 3 we have and anbody the new OC (if we get one) would want to bring in, lets see what we have and move on from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 I'm not saying that they shouldn't give him a chance, not at all. Just saying if Favre bails, and you head into camp with Ratliff, Ainge and Clemens you're rolling the dice as a staff. Of course, this will be Ryan's team [hopefully], so all bets are off until we see his coaching and management style. Also, by veteran, I meant someone that could actually come in and play, not hold a clipboard like Vinny or Brad Johnson. Johnson started for Dallas when Romo was hurt Guns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gun Of Bavaria Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Johnson started for Dallas when Romo was hurt Guns I know. How bout " A Veteran with some actual ability". Just saying, if Ainge, Ratliff & Clemens are the 3 heading into camp, I'll be a bit nervous. Let's hope Ratliff will be a diamond in the rough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Nice read. I agree we need to give the shot. It would be nice to think we have the QB we need without Brett here...who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 I know. How bout " A Veteran with some actual ability". Just saying, if Ainge, Ratliff & Clemens are the 3 heading into camp, I'll be a bit nervous. Let's hope Ratliff will be a diamond in the rough. how about we just consider Clemens as a veteran presence and keep Ratliff for the B/U or visa versa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 19, 2009 Author Share Posted January 19, 2009 Next week we will have an article entitled... The Case For Favre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vudu Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Clemens is a bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Thanks to everyone who has a brain and agreed with my article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 People may forget quickly, and throw out stat lines now to prove Clemens "sucks" definitively, but there were definitely some things to like out of Clemens in 2007. He flashed some ability in instances like late against Baltimore and in the Redskins game. As the season went on, his supporting staff got worse. Coles was missing lots of games and even Cotchery was hurt although playing, and nobody on the team was catching a damn thing thrown to them. All this, and he still went 3-4 compared to Chad's 1-8. People want to go on about his interceptions, but he only threw one more than Chad (a guy who allegedly is so smart and accurate with his passes) did that season with the same or better supporting cast. The bigger issue was TDs thrown, but he certainly didn't have much help there. None of this means Clemens will be any good. But I'm just not sure where people come up with the idea it guarantees he can't be. Clemens wasn't given the kind of support a young QB needs. You see the one guys like Flacco and Ryan were handled and the kind of support they had, and you realize that while you need a guy with talent, a young QB can only be as good as what he has to work with. The fact is, that the Jets have no reason to be inclined towards any one of the young guys over the other. Clemens deserves a chance, as do Ratliff and Ainge. Let the best guy play, and don't let a mix of some good and some bad with no support from 2 season ago make the decision in advance for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJ667 Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 to me he should have been 5-2, if it weren't for a McCariens and Cotchery drop in Baltimore and against Washington respectively. hopefully he's matured, because he has talent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 clemens is short and innacurate he is a career backup the sooner we move on the better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJ667 Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 oh here's the key one, he shows far superior promise, talent, andpoise as opposed to two guys who went in the same round as him, Tarvaris Jackson and Brodie Croyle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 to me he should have been 5-2, if it weren't for a McCariens and Cotchery drop in Baltimore and against Washington respectively. hopefully he's matured, because he has talent Exactly. Justin McCareins holds onto a couple of PERFECTLY thrown balls and we don't let up 295 rushing yards to Washington, we're talking about a 5-3 record on that team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNJet Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Clemens has regressed. I'm not ready to annoint Ratliff the second coming of Jesus, but let's see what the guy has in camp. That said, QB has to be mission for Tannenbaum in the offseason. If Favre isn't coming back, we're going to at least need a veteran to throw in the mix. We do have a veteran to throw in the mix....His name is Clemens. A 3 year veteran that has started in 8 nfl regular season contests,playing competitive in everyone of them,and beating Pittsburgh. I bet MadMike1 looooved the article lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Clemens has shown NOTHING except that Chad raped him in TC 2 years in a row. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Exactly. Justin McCareins holds onto a couple of PERFECTLY thrown balls and we don't let up 295 rushing yards to Washington, we're talking about a 5-3 record on that team. If if's and but's were candies and nuts, Clemens would be a wonderful quarterback. They aren't and he isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNJet Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 If if's and but's were candies and nuts, Clemens would be a wonderful quarterback. They aren't and he isn't. Oh how wonderful it will be when Kellen is named the jets starter next season,and successfully proves his naysayers wrong,and everyone jumps on his bandwagon. What will be said then Mike? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Oh how wonderful it will be when Kellen is named the jets starter next season,and successfully proves his naysayers wrong,and everyone jumps on his bandwagon. What will be said then Mike? That happens right after I win the mega millions and tell my boss to go **** himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNJet Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Out of all the quarterbacks we have on our team including Bust Favre,Clemens is our best option with the weapons we have on our team. Just think we may ad another stud WR to the corps. Imagine if we have Coles,Cotch,Stuckey,Hakeem Nicks,Brad Smith,Marcus Henry,Clowney,Baker,Franks,and Keller for Clemens to throw to behind a good oline. We win 9 games easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJ667 Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 hey ya know here's a crazy idea, lets support both of them or neither, and hope they draft a good #1 receiver for him to throw to (maclin, nicks or britt) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNJet Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 That happens right after I win the mega millions and tell my boss to go **** himself. Thought about your Clemens signature lately?? Better start phrasing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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