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Big Ben is the BEST QB in the game

Does it all

Great in the pocket

Has a gun

Leader

Young

Take him over Manning:headbang:

Roethlisberger is a good QB. QBs I'd take over him, if we're not taking age into account. If we're taking age too, I put a - next to the guys I'd remove from that list. I used - for health issues too.

Brady

-Palmer (if healthy)

P Manning

J Cutler

P Rivers

D McNabb

T Romo

D Brees

M Ryan

A Rodgers

-K Warner

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Roethlisberger is a good QB. QBs I'd take over him, if we're not taking age into account. If we're taking age too, I put a - next to the guys I'd remove from that list. I used - for health issues too.

Brady

-Palmer (if healthy)

P Manning

J Cutler

P Rivers

D McNabb

T Romo

D Brees

M Ryan

A Rodgers

-K Warner

I'd take Big Ben over everyone on your list except Brady, P Manning, Brees. Edit: When healthy i'd take Palmer as well.

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aec

You mind sending me some of that stuff you're smoking

OK, lets hear arguments on how those guys I listed are not as good. I can see you knocking a few guys off the list but there are at least 5 on there that are no brainers.

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Roethlisberger is a good QB. QBs I'd take over him, if we're not taking age into account. If we're taking age too, I put a - next to the guys I'd remove from that list. I used - for health issues too.

Brady

-Palmer (if healthy)

P Manning

J Cutler

P Rivers

D McNabb

T Romo

D Brees

M Ryan

A Rodgers

-K Warner

Tony Romo? He needs to at least win a playoff game before he is even considered in the same league as Big Ben.

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That was some arguement

The only one on there in the same league is Manning

Brady? Don't know what you are getting when and if he ever comes back

Cutler? Tools yes, noodle no

River? C'mon dude? The guy is a head case....poor throwing motion

Brees? System QB

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Tony Romo? He needs to at least win a playoff game before he is even considered in the same league as Big Ben.

I said some can be argued. He's one of them. On talent, I'd take him but I can't argue with those who would not.

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River? C'mon dude? The guy is a head case....poor throwing motion

What poor throwing motion? And how is he a head case?

Yeah, he's got a big mouth, but all he does is win, and he's as tough as they come.

Just because people disagree with your opinion doesn't automatically mean they're wrong.

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What poor throwing motion? And how is he a head case?

Yeah, he's got a big mouth, but all he does is win, and he's as tough as they come.

Just because people disagree with your opinion doesn't automatically mean they're wrong.

Just my opinion dude

Just arguing my point

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Yeah. Here in PA, every time I've heard a Steeler fan complain about him, I've told them I'd take him in a second. This puts him right up there at the top of the 2nd tier, imo. I'd still take P. Manning and maybe a healthy Brady over him though.

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It's tough to argue against Ben right now. He, unlike Manning, steps up his game in the post-season while Manning has NEVER consistently delivered in the playoffs. Even the year Manning won the SB he was pretty average. He got his SB MVP off of rep.

The only guy I'd put ahead of him his Tom Brady. 3 rings > 2 rings. Ben has time to develop into the best though, there's no question about it.

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It's tough to argue against Ben right now. He, unlike Manning, steps up his game in the post-season while Manning has NEVER consistently delivered in the playoffs. Even the year Manning won the SB he was pretty average. He got his SB MVP off of rep.

The only guy I'd put ahead of him his Tom Brady. 3* rings < 2 rings. Ben has time to develop into the best though, there's no question about it.

Fixed.

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You put Peyton on that Steelers team and they go undefeated and win the Superbowl 48-14.

Ben is so big and has great pocket presence. He makes plays with his legs. He has a strong arm and his accuracy has gotten a lot better. I begrudgedly call him a top three QB. But, I will say, he's prone to dumbass decisions - which he's gotten better at too, howver - and his style of play is not long for this league. He's 26 years old, right? He'll be lucky to play another 6 years.

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You put Peyton on that Steelers team and they go undefeated and win the Superbowl 48-14.

Yeah because Peyton has never had anything to work with in Indy. He's only had the likes of Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Dallas Clark, Joseph Addai, Edgerin James etc.

:yawn:

If Manning played behind that offensive lines there's NO WAY he wins the SB. Bens ability to extend plays is what makes that entire offense work and NO ONE in the league is better at that than Ben.

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