Irish Jet Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 That's right 124. The guy is amazing. On his way to a second SB which I believe he'll go onto win. He's proven that he can win without a great running game. No QB can extend a play like Ben and no QB can throw on the move and improvise in the way he can. Eventually he's going to be up there with Manning and Brady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Yes, Willie Parker is horrible. Doesn't help having the best Defense in the NFL in almost every catagory either. But hey, Go Ben! You are amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 That's right 124. The guy is amazing. On his way to a second SB which I believe he'll go onto win. He's proven that he can win without a great running game. No QB can extend a play like Ben and no QB can throw on the move and improvise in the way he can. Eventually he's going to be up there with Manning and Brady. What? Big Ben is good, but he is hardly revolutionizing the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 What? Big Ben is good, but he is hardly revolutionizing the game. He's good, he isn't great and he never will be great. I can't wait for Arizona to shock the world, again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted January 19, 2009 Author Share Posted January 19, 2009 Yes, Willie Parker is horrible. Doesn't help having the best Defense in the NFL in almost every catagory either. But hey, Go Ben! You are amazing. What did he have, 2 YPC in that game? If even that? Ben was great against a GREAT defense. He threw for 255 yards and a TD while having another PERFECTLY thrown deep ball dropped by Sweed for what would have been another TD. He also had another deep ball dropped by Parker. He's a great QB and he's been spectacular in the playoffs for the Steelers. He's an elite QB, there's no doubt about it anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 I give him props but he holds on to the ball too ****ing long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Other than Brady, Ben has the best pocket presence in the history of the league. Stats never tell the whole story, and that certainly holds true with Ben. I dont even know how he does it considering he obviously isnt the most athletic guy in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted January 19, 2009 Author Share Posted January 19, 2009 What? Big Ben is good, but he is hardly revolutionizing the game. I meant no QB's playing right now, which is true. No-one playing in the NFL right now can extend plays as effectively as Ben. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Yes, Willie Parker is horrible. Doesn't help having the best Defense in the NFL in almost every catagory either. But hey, Go Ben! You are amazing. Actually yes, he is.. Even Thomas Jones is better then him, which really says something.. Rivers is my favorite QB from the 04 class, but Big Ben makes plays when needed.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Ben isn't even the best QB in the game on February 1st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted January 19, 2009 Author Share Posted January 19, 2009 I give him props but he holds on to the ball too ****ing long. That's his greatest strength though and that's how he can extend so many plays. He breaks so many tackles it's ridiculous for a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Actually yes, he is.. Even Thomas Jones is better then him, which really says something.. Rivers is my favorite QB from the 04 class, but Big Ben makes plays when needed.. Thomas Jones is a very good RB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Ben isn't even the best QB in the game on February 1st. That guy is also a first ballot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 That's his greatest strength though and that's how he can extend so many plays. He breaks so many tackles it's ridiculous for a QB. That's what I mean, if you watched the Titans game, you would know that it's also his weakness as well. That's what he does, but it can very well hurt you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJ667 Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 he proved so to me today, before i wan't so sure, because it would appear that he sometimes choked. not today. i hate the steelers, but good job Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted January 19, 2009 Author Share Posted January 19, 2009 That's what I mean, if you watched the Titans game, you would know that it's also his weakness as well. That's what he does, but it can very well hurt you. I wouldn't complain if it gets me two SB's. Just sayin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Thomas Jones is a very good RB. no, no he isn't.. he's a JAG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangGreen Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 That's right 124. The guy is amazing. On his way to a second SB which I believe he'll go onto win. He's proven that he can win without a great running game. No QB can extend a play like Ben and no QB can throw on the move and improvise in the way he can. Eventually he's going to be up there with Manning and Brady. Well, the best defense in the league helps his team get to the SuperBowl..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 That's his greatest strength though and that's how he can extend so many plays. He breaks so many tackles it's ridiculous for a QB. Donovan can do the same thing. Like I said, Big Ben, key word bif, is not doing anything to revolutionize the game. He is a big dude. That has more to 'extending' plays then anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 no, no he isn't.. he's a JAG Yeah your right, he was terrible this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted January 19, 2009 Author Share Posted January 19, 2009 Well, the best defense in the league helps his team get to the SuperBowl..... Yeah and the GREAT QB play has nothing to do with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 cards will win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted January 19, 2009 Author Share Posted January 19, 2009 Donovan can do the same thing. Like I said, Big Ben, key word bif, is not doing anything to revolutionize the game. He is a big dude. That has more to 'extending' plays then anything. McNabb isn't even close to Ben when it comes to throwing on the run. He's far too erratic with his passes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Well, the best defense in the league helps his team get to the SuperBowl..... No! It is all Big Ben. He is great. He is awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Yeah your right, he was terrible this year. No, he was terrible last year with a bad offensive line. He was good this year with a good offensive line. He was also good in Chicago with a good offensive line, and bad in Arizona with a bad offensive line. His blocking and leadership push his overall value to "above average," but not by much. All RBs need a good line in front of them, but the really good ones can create on their own--turn a big hole into a 60-yard TD, for example. Jones simply doesn't have the speed or power to do that--give him a big hole, and you get a 10-yard gain. If you open holes, he'll find them. If not, you get 2 yards and a cloud of dust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMJ Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Ben IS elite. Period. I said last year that if I had to choose any QB to build my team around in the NFL, and I couldn't have Manning or Brady, I'd take Ben without thinking twice about it. I still stand by that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 No, he was terrible last year with a bad offensive line. He was good this year with a good offensive line. He was also good in Chicago with a good offensive line, and bad in Arizona with a bad offensive line. His blocking and leadership push his overall value to "above average," but not by much. All RBs need a good line in front of them, but the really good ones can create on their own--turn a big hole into a 60-yard TD, for example. Jones simply doesn't have the speed or power to do that--give him a big hole, and you get a 10-yard gain. If you open holes, he'll find them. If not, you get 2 yards and a cloud of dust. just kidding. I couldn't have said it better myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain_the_foe Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 That's right 124. The guy is amazing. On his way to a second SB which I believe he'll go onto win. He's proven that he can win without a great running game. No QB can extend a play like Ben and no QB can throw on the move and improvise in the way he can. Eventually he's going to be up there with Manning and Brady. I have to disagree on that part. Jay Cutler is one of the best, if not the best QB's in the game today throwing the football on the move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybroome Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 He's good, he isn't great and he never will be great. I can't wait for Arizona to shock the world, again. It shall happen. Give me QB like Kurt wearing a gray beard! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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