Is it a money issue with the Jets?

[Jetsfan_always]

Why do they never hire someone with head coaching experience at the NFL level?

Is it due to an unwillingness to spend the money, and they keep trying to go "cheap" with a less expensive DC/OC?

[SoFlaJets]

Parcells said no, Belichick said no, Cowher said no thanks-we try...we try...

[PFSIKH]

While Jerry Jones is a tool and lousy GM, his thought process behind hiring a new versus old coach is pretty sound.

In essence, a younger coach is hungry. In theory Rex Ryan will want to prove he is a successful HC and will work much harder then a Cowher and Shanahan who have rings.

We all know the NFL is a grind with long long hours. Do you see Cowher with a proven track record going that extra yard everyday? You can see Ryan working himself that hard.

[faba]

There is no template for a coach that will be successful in the NFL-you take an educated calculation like we are doing with Ryan based on his resume and working history.

[Irish Jet]

I think we have a good coach. People really NEED to give this guy a chance.

[CTM]

This year it was Tannenbaum. No question in my mind..

I'm ok with Ryan, I liked him a lot better then Spags and most of the other names, but I think Woody should've fired Tannenbaum and backed up the brinks truck to Cowher..

[Larz]

holy moly

how much has woody spent on the new stadium, free agents, etc etc etc

hell, he spent millions on the west side attempt

I think it's a corporate approach more than a $ approach

he loves the young guns, the rising stars

think of it this way

if he hits on one, we'll have our landry/shula

[Klecko73isGod]

This year it was Tannenbaum. No question in my mind..

I'm ok with Ryan, I liked him a lot better then Spags and most of the other names, but I think Woody should've fired Tannenbaum and backed up the brinks truck to Cowher..

But you have no evidence to base this on.

And had Woody fired Tanny, whom you think has done a good job, and Cowher not taken the job, then what?

Not to mention the FACT that Tannenbaum is on record as saying he would accept another position within the organization if a new coach wanted a differen GM.

[JonEJet]

I think we have a good coach. People really NEED to give this guy a chance.

You like him because he is Irish

[JMJ]

This year it was Tannenbaum. No question in my mind..

I'm ok with Ryan, I liked him a lot better then Spags and most of the other names, but I think Woody should've fired Tannenbaum and backed up the brinks truck to Cowher..

chadharmamoon? madmike1? Is that you?

[Klecko73isGod]

holy moly

how much has woody spent on the new stadium, free agents, etc etc etc

hell, he spent millions on the west side attempt

I think it's a corporate approach more than a $ approach

he loves the young guns, the rising stars

think of it this way

if he hits on one, we'll have our landry/shula

Yeah, its the cash, he's willing to spend a billion+ of his own money to build a stadium but not an extra million a year on a coach.

The logic employed around here at times is really ****ed up.

[JMJ]

But you have no evidence to base this on.

And had Woody fired Tanny, whom you think has done a good job, and Cowher not taken the job, then what?

Not to mention the FACT that Tannenbaum is on record as saying he would accept another position within the organization if a new coach wanted a differen GM.

CTM is by far one of my favorite posters but this theory he has drawn up on his head about Cowher and Tannenbaum is really a piece of work. I expect this from lots of people (even most). I'm speechless though now.

[DoubleDown]

No, it's not the money.

[Klecko73isGod]

CTM is by far one of my favorite posters but this theory he has drawn up on his head about Cowher and Tannenbaum is really a piece of work. I expect this from lots of people (even most). I'm speechless though now.

And he's been steadfast with it since the day Cowher said he didn't want to coach.

I think his manlove for Cowher has overhwhelmed his psyche.

[JMJ]

And he's been steadfast with it since the day Cowher said he didn't want to coach.

I think his manlove for Cowher has overhwhelmed his psyche.

Exactly.

Cowher said when he retired from a team he loved that he was not coming back to coaching for AT LEAST 2 years. He then did one year of announcing with CBS and liked it so much he re-upped his contract with them for another year (a 2nd) prior to the season ending knowing damn well (and not caring) he was going to get coaching offers.

He said he wasn't going back to coaching until his youngest daughter graduates high school (which she will NEXT year) and he renewed his contract with CBS a full week before the season ended. He was not coaching this year, PERIOD!

CTM. He was not coaching this year. Please stop with your conspiracy theories. There are none.

[SoFlaJets]

While Jerry Jones is a tool and lousy GM, his thought process behind hiring a new versus old coach is pretty sound.

In essence, a younger coach is hungry. In theory Rex Ryan will want to prove he is a successful HC and will work much harder then a Cowher and Shanahan who have rings.

We all know the NFL is a grind with long long hours. Do you see Cowher with a proven track record going that extra yard everyday? You can see Ryan working himself that hard.

this is great post by Pf...I hope he's right...I think there is definitely a burnout factor with the 16 hour days that a 46 year old guy like Ryan can handle better than an older coach...Cowher is 2 years younger and he is pretty much still fried I guess

[CTM]

But you have no evidence to base this on.

And had Woody fired Tanny, whom you think has done a good job, and Cowher not taken the job, then what?

Not to mention the FACT that Tannenbaum is on record as saying he would accept another position within the organization if a new coach wanted a differen GM.

No evidence? What about the numerous articles that has said so?

Beyond that, one only needs to use a bit of common sense here. There's simply no way a high profile guy is going come in with Tanny as the GM. Parcells would be the only possibility because of his prior history with the guy.

[CTM]

Exactly.

Cowher said when he retired from a team he loved that he was not coming back to coaching for AT LEAST 2 years. He then did one year of announcing with CBS and liked it so much he re-upped his contract with them for another year (a 2nd) prior to the season ending knowing damn well (and not caring) he was going to get coaching offers.

He said he wasn't going back to coaching until his youngest daughter graduates high school (which she will NEXT year) and he renewed his contract with CBS a full week before the season ended. He was not coaching this year, PERIOD!

CTM. He was not coaching this year. Please stop with your conspiracy theories. There are none.

It's not just Cowher. Owner needs to make splash for PSL's and they don't even show interest in Shanny or Gruden??? Come on. I thought they were leaving no stone unturned in their search?? It couldn't be more obvious what went on here if they came out and told you so.

btw, this isn't an indictment on anything. Maybe Ryan works out great. I like what I've seen and heard so far and I'm not livid like I would've been if we hired Spags or Schott..

[Jetsfan_always]

Yeah, its the cash, he's willing to spend a billion+ of his own money to build a stadium but not an extra million a year on a coach.

The logic employed around here at times is really ****ed up.

Spending the money on the stadium generates more dollars, thru box seats. People don't come to watch an NFL football team for its coach. Spending alot on personnel other than players only pays off in one way - if they win.

That said, they should have at least interviewed Gruden, and thrown the bank at Cowher. After this incident, I fell in love will angry Bill for good:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/news/2002/12/21/mccarter_obit_ap/

Couldn't find a clip of it, though - was one of THE best NFL moments I can remember, just watching angry Bill chasing the ref all over the field to stick the photograph in his pocket.

[BaumerJet]

But you have no evidence to base this on.

And had Woody fired Tanny, whom you think has done a good job, and Cowher not taken the job, then what?

Not to mention the FACT that Tannenbaum is on record as saying he would accept another position within the organization if a new coach wanted a differen GM.

He was even willing to be lowered to his original job - you know, the one that Parcells gave him when Mike 1st came to the organization (Assistant head of player personel).

You can not blame him for why these coaches did not come to Gang Green.

It was always about the money to them, more money than Rex Ryan is taking & that's another point.

[Klecko73isGod]

Spending the money on the stadium generates more dollars, thru box seats. People don't come to watch an NFL football team for its coach. Spending alot on personnel other than players only pays off in one way - if they win.

That said, they should have at least interviewed Gruden, and thrown the bank at Cowher. After this incident, I fell in love will angry Bill for good:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/news/2002/12/21/mccarter_obit_ap/

Couldn't find a clip of it, though - was one of THE best NFL moments I can remember, just watching angry Bill chasing the ref all over the field to stick the photograph in his pocket.

Dude, Gruden is an overrated piece of crap.

Let's examine this "golden boy's" resume:

Took over a ready made team and won the SB his first year in Tampa. (Gruden was hired for his offensive "expertise." Tampa's offense scored less in their SB year than in the year prior to hiring Gruden.)

First coach to have back-to-back losing seasons following a SB win.

Three playoff appearances in 7 years with the Bucs. That's right, Jon Gruden had as many postseason trips in Tampa as Herm Edwards had with the Jets in fewer seasons. And Gruden took over an even better team than Herm did.

Gruden's final W-L record in Tampa: 57-55.

Oh and the guy he replaced won the SB with his next team. Do you really think Tampa doesn't win in 2002 with Dungy as their coach. Gruden did exactly nothing to improve their performance.

Jon Gruden is the single most overrated coach in the history of coaching.