Jets Babe Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Right now the Jets are in sucky cap space. Our current estimated cap space is -$16,584,125. Some cuts that will probably happen: Brett Favre. Cap savings of $13,000,000 if cut. David Barrett. Cap savings of $3,710,000 if cut. David Bowens. Cap savings of $2,600,000 if cut. Chris Baker. Cap savings of $2,100,000 if cut. Sione Pouha. Cap savings of $500,000 if cut. Wayne Hunter (who the hell is this guy?). Cap savings of $627,280 if cut. Noah Herron (who the hell is this guy?. Cap savings of $542,280 if cut. James Dearth. Cap savings of $945,000 if cut. There are also a couple of more guys with a savings under $500,000 if cut. Anyways, if these cuts happen...pretty sure this puts us at about a 7.4 million surplus. I think I did that right. Anyways, so as bad as our cap situation looks, it's not too bad. A big chunk of that cap room is Brett Favre. He's gotta go. Takes up way too much cap room. Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vudu Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 7.5 mil wouldnt be a "surplus" persay, but it should be a nice chunk of change to sign a couple of players, nothing extravagant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 2 hot chicks talkin math..........does it get any hotter? thanks for postin the #'s btw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyHector Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 James Dearth. Cap savings of $945,000 if cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Dearth will be here for the next coaching regime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Babe Posted January 22, 2009 Author Share Posted January 22, 2009 7.5 mil wouldnt be a "surplus" persay, but it should be a nice chunk of change to sign a couple of players, nothing extravagant. surplus means extra...we would be in the positive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borgoguy Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 2 hot chicks talkin math..........does it get any hotter? thanks for postin the #'s btw LOL!! This post is so brilliant that it isn't funny. But it is. Nice job, JW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Babe Posted January 22, 2009 Author Share Posted January 22, 2009 Dearth will be here for the next coaching regime why does everyone have such a boner for him? i know LS is a hard position, but can't we just teach someone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyHector Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 why does everyone have such a boner for him? i know LS is a hard position, but can't we just teach someone? I know you're young, but by now you should've figured out that having a good snapper will get you far in life (or football). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Babe Posted January 22, 2009 Author Share Posted January 22, 2009 I know you're young, but by now you should've figured out that having a good snapper will get you far in life (or football). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMJ Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Pouha will not be cut. And, we only save the $13M with Favre if he retires. If he is cut we don't save NEARLY that amount because his bonus accelerates against our 2009 cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Good stuff, JB. Barrett, Bowens, Herron seem like sure cuts to me with Baker a possibility. Hunter (The Famous #75!!!) stays because he's a backup G/C/T/TE. Pouha stays because of DLine depth and Dearth stays because he's the Jets permanent long snapper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Cut the Big Pussie you all know who he is!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 I know you're young, but by now you should've figured out that having a good snapper will get you far in life (or football). potw nom...... johnny knocks it outta da park Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Right now the Jets are in sucky cap space. Our current estimated cap space is -$16,584,125. Some cuts that will probably happen: Brett Favre. Cap savings of $13,000,000 if cut. David Barrett. Cap savings of $3,710,000 if cut. David Bowens. Cap savings of $2,600,000 if cut. Chris Baker. Cap savings of $2,100,000 if cut. Sione Pouha. Cap savings of $500,000 if cut. Wayne Hunter (who the hell is this guy?). Cap savings of $627,280 if cut. Noah Herron (who the hell is this guy?. Cap savings of $542,280 if cut. James Dearth. Cap savings of $945,000 if cut. There are also a couple of more guys with a savings under $500,000 if cut. Those lower salary guys don't save you much if anything at all. At a minimum, they'd be replaced with rookie FA's earning the league minimum - which is $310K. The minimum for a guy with two years in the league is $460K, and it goes up from there. So a guy like Pouha's a bargain. I hope the top two guys on your list are gone ASAP, maybe Bowens too, but Baker I'd keep. Dearth doesn't get under my skin like he does some other folks, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Babe Posted January 22, 2009 Author Share Posted January 22, 2009 Pouha will not be cut. And, we only save the $13M with Favre if he retires. If he is cut we don't save NEARLY that amount because his bonus accelerates against our 2009 cap. favre is gonna retire. but even if we cut him, it says we still save $13M: http://www.nyjetscap.com/brettfavre.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Babe Posted January 22, 2009 Author Share Posted January 22, 2009 Those lower salary guys don't save you much if anything at all. At a minimum, they'd be replaced with rookie FA's earning the league minimum - which is $310K. The minimum for a guy with two years in the league is $460K, and it goes up from there. So a guy like Pouha's a bargain. I hope the top two guys on your list are gone ASAP, maybe Bowens too, but Baker I'd keep. Dearth doesn't get under my skin like he does some other folks, either. true, i just think we should cut pouha because he sucks. take a chance on a young rookie again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Pouha will not be cut. And, we only save the $13M with Favre if he retires. If he is cut we don't save NEARLY that amount because his bonus accelerates against our 2009 cap. We save the entire $13M either way. The Jets never paid Favre a signing bonus. I believe his prorated bonus was paid off while he was with the Packers, but if it wasn't, the Packers had to absorb the accelerated bonus on their cap last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Babe Posted January 22, 2009 Author Share Posted January 22, 2009 We save the entire $13M either way. The Jets never paid Favre a signing bonus. I believe his prorated bonus was paid off while he was with the Packers, but if it wasn't, the Packers had to absorb the accelerated bonus on their cap last year. packers are taking the cap hit for favre...http://cappage.timesfour.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMJ Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 potw nom...... johnny knocks it outta da park Yeah. I added to his rep for that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 2 hot chicks talkin math..........does it get any hotter? thanks for postin the #'s btw calm down joewilly,, your MILF is still the best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Pouha will not be cut. And, we only save the $13M with Favre if he retires. If he is cut we don't save NEARLY that amount because his bonus accelerates against our 2009 cap. Huh? What am I missing here? I thought his bonus was already accelerated to green bay, and he didn't have a bonus with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMJ Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 favre is gonna retire. but even if we cut him, it says we still save $13M: http://www.nyjetscap.com/brettfavre.html We save the entire $13M either way. The Jets never paid Favre a signing bonus. I believe his prorated bonus was paid off while he was with the Packers, but if it wasn't, the Packers had to absorb the accelerated bonus on their cap last year. If this is true then this is AWESOME! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMJ Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Huh? What am I missing here? I thought his bonus was already accelerated to green bay, and he didn't have a bonus with us. Looks like it was my mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Babe Posted January 22, 2009 Author Share Posted January 22, 2009 If this is true then this is AWESOME! it is true. that's why tanny was a genius when we signed favre. if it works, then yayyyyy! if it didn't, then we cut favre and we save money. win-win situation for the jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Looks like it was my mistake. Your mistake? This is like when superman died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vudu Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 surplus means extra...we would be in the positive. No, all it means is that we'll be $7.4 million in the green. A surplus would be $16,584,125 +1 Still i get what you're saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 I actually think he had a fair number of crappy snaps this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsman Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 it is true. that's why tanny was a genius when we signed favre. if it works, then yayyyyy! if it didn't, then we cut favre and we save money. win-win situation for the jets. correct me if i am mistaken, but wasnt there a stipulation in the trade with Green Bay that said we couldnt cut him or Trade him to anywhere in the NFC for 3 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Babe Posted January 22, 2009 Author Share Posted January 22, 2009 No, all it means is that we'll be $7.4 million in the green. A surplus would be $16,584,125 +1 Still i get what you're saying. but we're starting off in the red....we're ending up in the green. we'll end up with a 7 million surplus... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMJ Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Your mistake? This is like when superman died. Yes. It happens. I am the suck from time to time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Babe Posted January 22, 2009 Author Share Posted January 22, 2009 correct me if i am mistaken, but wasnt there a stipulation in the trade with Green Bay that said we couldnt cut him or Trade him to anywhere in the NFC for 3 years? i believe so, but i only thought it was for that year, not 3 years... The terms of the trade that sent QB Brett Favre from Green Bay to the New York Jets are as follows: The Packers will receive at least a fourth round pick. If Favre plays 50 percent of the snaps this season, the pick becomes a third rounder; 70 percent plus a playoff berth and the Packers receive a second rounder; 80 percent and a Super Bowl appearance becomes a first round pick. The Packers also inserted a "poison pill" in the deal. If Favre were to be traded to a NFC North team by the Jets, New York would have to surrender three first-round picks to Green Bay. The conditions also say NOTHING about cutting him. So it's fair game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsman Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 i believe so, but i only thought it was for that year, not 3 years... yea you are right its 1 year i just looked it up The compensation sent to the Packers could be steep, but only if Favre pays off for the Jets in the win column. The framework of the deal, first reported by the NFL Network, is that he will cost the Jets a conditional fourth-round pick in 2009. If he takes 50 percent of the snaps this season, the Packers will get a third-round pick. At 70 percent of the snaps and if the Jets qualify for the playoffs, the Packers receive a second-rounder. If Favre takes 80 percent of the snaps and the Jets make the Super Bowl, the Packers receive a first-rounder. If Favre retires after one year and the Packers get the Jets' first-round pick, the Packers will send the Jets a fifth-rounder in 2010. Favre must play in at least 50 percent of one playoff game for the Packers to get that compensation, the NFL Network said. An odd - though not from the Packers' standpoint - caveat to the trade stipulates that if the Jets were to turn around and deal Favre to any NFC North team, the Jets would have to surrender three No. 1 picks to the Packers. The trade also includes provisions preventing a trade to another team if that new team were to trade him to the NFC North, the NFL Network said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsman Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 i believe so, but i only thought it was for that year, not 3 years... The terms of the trade that sent QB Brett Favre from Green Bay to the New York Jets are as follows: The Packers will receive at least a fourth round pick. If Favre plays 50 percent of the snaps this season, the pick becomes a third rounder; 70 percent plus a playoff berth and the Packers receive a second rounder; 80 percent and a Super Bowl appearance becomes a first round pick. The Packers also inserted a "poison pill" in the deal. If Favre were to be traded to a NFC North team by the Jets, New York would have to surrender three first-round picks to Green Bay. The conditions also say NOTHING about cutting him. So it's fair game. so i guess this means we can trade him to Minnesota for a 5th now without penalty lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boynton Beach Jets Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Right now the Jets are in sucky cap space. Our current estimated cap space is -$16,584,125. Some cuts that will probably happen: Brett Favre. Cap savings of $13,000,000 if cut. David Barrett. Cap savings of $3,710,000 if cut. David Bowens. Cap savings of $2,600,000 if cut. Chris Baker. Cap savings of $2,100,000 if cut. Sione Pouha. Cap savings of $500,000 if cut. Wayne Hunter (who the hell is this guy?). Cap savings of $627,280 if cut. Noah Herron (who the hell is this guy?. Cap savings of $542,280 if cut. James Dearth. Cap savings of $945,000 if cut. There are also a couple of more guys with a savings under $500,000 if cut. Anyways, if these cuts happen...pretty sure this puts us at about a 7.4 million surplus. I think I did that right. Anyways, so as bad as our cap situation looks, it's not too bad. A big chunk of that cap room is Brett Favre. He's gotta go. Takes up way too much cap room. Discuss. I agree with all the cuts except Pouha and Dearth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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