Please explain the shotgun and empty backfield on 3rd/4th and real short

[SouthernJet]

We did that all year..baffles me.

nothing like telling the defesne that 50% of your playbook (run) is not a option on the upcoming play...

[JohnnyHector]

We did that all year..baffles me.

nothing like telling the defesne that 50% of your playbook (run) is not a option on the upcoming play...

Mangini and Schottenheimer each had $100 on Miami to win the AFC East...?

[sirlancemehlot]

glad u said it. No RB means you've not only tipped your hand, but eliminated the screen out of the backfield, the shovel pass, the draw, or the off-tackle/up-the-gut standbys. Also--no help in backfield protection. Shotty over-thinking again.

[JMJ]

I touched on this with statistics in the other Schotty thread on the main board now. The post was a copy and paste from a post I wrote about 3-4 weeks ago.

However, in the original thread it was posted in, CTM was supporting me also in saying that this strategy was indeed Schotty and not Favre. He posted a link to NFL.com's video section of Chad Pennington's highlights from 2006. They only had 3 video highlights of him operating on 3rd and short. All 3 of them were out of the shotgun.

This did not arise because of Favre. It is Schotty's style to 3rd and short offense and it sucks.

[SouthernJet]

I touched on this with statistics in the other Schotty thread on the main board now. The post was a copy and paste from a post I wrote about 3-4 weeks ago.

However, in the original thread it was posted in, CTM was supporting me also in saying that this strategy was indeed Schotty and not Favre. He posted a link to NFL.com's video section of Chad Pennington's highlights from 2006. They only had 3 video highlights of him operating on 3rd and short. All 3 of them were out of the shotgun.

This did not arise because of Favre. It is Schotty's style to 3rd and short offense and it sucks.

i dont mind shotgun so much on 3rd/4th and short yardage as long as a RB in backfield to keep run as optio nto defense..

wre the chad hilites with no RB ????

[rillo]

I get mad just thinking about it....

[DoubleDown]

I touched on this with statistics in the other Schotty thread on the main board now. The post was a copy and paste from a post I wrote about 3-4 weeks ago.

However, in the original thread it was posted in, CTM was supporting me also in saying that this strategy was indeed Schotty and not Favre. He posted a link to NFL.com's video section of Chad Pennington's highlights from 2006. They only had 3 video highlights of him operating on 3rd and short. All 3 of them were out of the shotgun.

This did not arise because of Favre. It is Schotty's style to 3rd and short offense and it sucks.

We also ran a ton of hurry up QB sneaks on 3rd and short with Chad. Chad would signal the play, we would line up quickly so the defense could not set, and we would run the QB sneak for the first down at a very successful rate.

Going by memory, we didn't run a single QB sneak with Favre this season.

[JMJ]

We also ran a ton of hurry up QB sneaks on 3rd and short with Chad. Chad would signal the play, we would line up quickly so the defense could not set, and we would run the QB sneak for the first down at a very successful rate.

Going by memory, we didn't run a single QB sneak with Favre this season.

That was Chad though, not Schotty. That wasn't a play call. It was Chad hurrying them up to the line and immediately snapping it.

[JMJ]

i dont mind shotgun so much on 3rd/4th and short yardage as long as a RB in backfield to keep run as optio nto defense..

wre the chad hilites with no RB ????

No RBs. On one play someone motioned behind the line, but in front of Chad. Not even with him or behind him so there was still not threat of the run.

[DoubleDown]

That was Chad though, not Schotty. That wasn't a play call. It was Chad hurrying them up to the line and immediately snapping it.

So Schotty didn't have any part of installing that into the offensive game plan? I find that hard to believe.

[JMJ]

So Schotty didn't have any part of installing that into the offensive game plan? I find that hard to believe.

Ahhh, I see what you're saying now. Yes, I'm sure Schotty had a lot to do with installing it into the game plan, but it was Chad's call on the field to hurry them up and do it. What I meant was it wasn't a play call of Schott's into Chad's helmet.

Plain and simple though, Schott loves the shotgun, empty backfield play calls on 3rd and short and most Jets fans hate it.