hoping4ASuperBowl Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 17. Jets - USC QB Mark Sanchez Sanchez's tools are right there with Stafford's, but he hasn't put enough on film to allow for a proper evaluation. 16 college starts dangerously puts him in the Akili Smith range and Pete Carroll's disapproval of Sanchez's decision to leave school early surely wasn't received well by the NFL. That said, the Jets need a quarterback with an arm strong enough to cut through the Meadowland winds. Sanchez can develop for a year behind Brett Favre (or Kellen Clemens). http://www.rotoworld.com/content/features/column.aspx?sport=NFL&columnid=60&&articleid=32104 I don't know how I feel about this. We've already got 3 young QB's on this team, were gonna draft another QB to learn the system?? Give me a DE, CB, or a WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT STALKER Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 17. Jets - USC QB Mark Sanchez Sanchez's tools are right there with Stafford's, but he hasn't put enough on film to allow for a proper evaluation. 16 college starts dangerously puts him in the Akili Smith range and Pete Carroll's disapproval of Sanchez's decision to leave school early surely wasn't received well by the NFL. That said, the Jets need a quarterback with an arm strong enough to cut through the Meadowland winds. Sanchez can develop for a year behind Brett Favre (or Kellen Clemens). http://www.rotoworld.com/content/features/column.aspx?sport=NFL&columnid=60&&articleid=32104 I don't know how I feel about this. We've already got 3 young QB's on this team, were gonna draft another QB to learn the system?? Give me a DE, CB, or a WR. We don't need another rookie QB...plus, Sanchez won't drop that far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Sanchez will be selected in the top 10, probably top 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoping4ASuperBowl Posted January 23, 2009 Author Share Posted January 23, 2009 they have Maclin dropping past us, I think hes a much better choice then Sanchez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Now way he drops that far and isn't the new stadium covered? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 It's really quite simple. How long have you all been Jets fans? If Sanchez is available, and we take him... BUST. If Sanchez is available, and we pass... SUPERSTAR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Now way he drops that far and isn't the new stadium covered? nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleDown Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 If he drops to 17, yes you take him. Favre has one more year max, Clemens is a bust, Ratliff is a pipe dream, and Ainge is a fringe NFL player. It's simple. Keep drafting QB until you find your franchise guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boynton Beach Jets Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 We don't need another rookie QB...plus, Sanchez won't drop that far. I agree on both points Sanchez will not drop and we have 3 young QB's with as much upside lets see what they can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4HCrew Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 There is no way in hell the Jets can go qb in round one..way too many other pressing needs for this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleDown Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 There is no way in hell the Jets can go qb in round one..way too many other pressing needs for this year. What other pressing needs? I would put QB at one of the top spots on the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSorDIE Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 not going to happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoping4ASuperBowl Posted January 23, 2009 Author Share Posted January 23, 2009 What other pressing needs? I would put QB at one of the top spots on the list. DE, CB, and WR are for more pressing. Besides, let's say we draft Sanchez and Favre retires, who will be our QB? I don't know how much Clemens has changed and Ratliff seems to have the playbook down the best and showed more promise then Clemens has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleDown Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 DE, CB, and WR are for more pressing. Besides, let's say we draft Sanchez and Favre retires, who will be our QB? I don't know how much Clemens has changed and Ratliff seems to have the playbook down the best and showed more promise then Clemens has. I would disagree. With Ellis and Coleman anchoring our DE spots, we still have a bit of a window on finding our future replacements at this position. Mosley and Devito are solid, young rotational players as well. CB can definitely use some help, but I still believe Lowery can get the job done with a good pass rush in front of him. Having one shut down elite CB is usually enough for a good secondary. We invested a first rounder at this postion just 2 years ago. WR is not as bad as people make it seem. Coles and Cotchery are a solid tandem. Stuckey was essentially a rookie last season and showed promise. Marcus Henry is developing and could get some good playing time this year. While I agree that these positions can certainly use some help, we are not in a dire situation in any of them. Many of these needs can be found later in the draft. When a potential franchise QB is staring you in the face, you don't pass him up when you have a bunch of unknowns on your roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 It's really quite simple. How long have you all been Jets fans? If Sanchez is available, and we take him... BUST. If Sanchez is available, and we pass... SUPERSTAR. "I can't believe we have to go over this again. Repeat after me..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoping4ASuperBowl Posted January 23, 2009 Author Share Posted January 23, 2009 I forget who it was, but someone posted the rushing stats of how many yards were gained on each side, middle, left, and right. Coleman's was the by a pretty good margin the worst of the three. I think Lowery could develop and would rank that the least of the three. I think we seriously need an upgrade at WR. Cotchery and Coles are both good players, but their pretty much the same. I know Henry is a very tall guy, and we need a tall Moss-esque or Burress kind of reciever. We need a receiver to jump up to grab those jump balls, and Coles and Cotchery can't do that. I still think Ratliff or Clemens would have a better shot then any rookie QB who doesn't know the system at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleDown Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 I forget who it was, but someone posted the rushing stats of how many yards were gained on each side, middle, left, and right. Coleman's was the by a pretty good margin the worst of the three. I think Lowery could develop and would rank that the least of the three. I think we seriously need an upgrade at WR. Cotchery and Coles are both good players, but their pretty much the same. I know Henry is a very tall guy, and we need a tall Moss-esque or Burress kind of reciever. We need a receiver to jump up to grab those jump balls, and Coles and Cotchery can't do that. I still think Ratliff or Clemens would have a better shot then any rookie QB who doesn't know the system at all. That's possible, but I've always been under the impression that Coleman was very stout against the run. Either way, he's not an old player, and I wouldn't classify that position as a pressing need that needs to be drafted ahead of a potential franchise QB. I'd love a tall quick receiver as well. Maybe Kenny Britt in the second round? We need to look for a replacement for Coles who only has 1 year left on his contract. If Stafford and Sanchez are both off the board at 17, WR would be my first choice. Sanchez is only a junior, so sitting behind Favre, Clemens, or Ratliff for a year or two would be a very good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 I would LOVE for that to happen, but it won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 I think that QB is THE most pressing need on this team, by a wide margin, but I'm just not sold on Sanchez. He only started 16 games in college, which is a recipe for disaster. Count me out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoping4ASuperBowl Posted January 23, 2009 Author Share Posted January 23, 2009 I'd love a tall quick receiver as well. Maybe Kenny Britt in the second round? We need to look for a replacement for Coles who only has 1 year left on his contract. If Stafford and Sanchez are both off the board at 17, WR would be my first choice. Kenny Britt is tall, but I heard hes not that fast, does he look faster than people say? I was thinking someone like Heyward-Bey, Hicks, or Maclin, or that guy from Cal-Poly, Barden. I dont know much about them except from their stats and height and weight and such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 DE, CB, and WR are for more pressing. Besides, let's say we draft Sanchez and Favre retires, who will be our QB? I don't know how much Clemens has changed and Ratliff seems to have the playbook down the best and showed more promise then Clemens has. The Jets are a veteran team in need to win immediately (as Rex said) so they need their 17th overall to play immediately. The best chance of that happening is CB and WR. It's tought to draft an immediate impact 3-4 DE at 17 who will be good enough to supplant Coleman. So that's out. BAP at any position other than K, TE, OL, OLB is my guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 I think the Jets will go defense first round IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gang_green03 Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Highly doubtful he falls that far but if he does we should snatch him up. We don't have anything at the QB position that justifies passing on a top prospect at that spot. Clemens hasn't shown enough and i believe he's a FA after next season anyway. Ratliff is completely unknown and was an UDFA. Ainge was a poor prospect coming out, doesn't have a lot of potential outside of being a good backup, and hasn't shown anything yet regardless. If we draft Sanchez and Clemens/Ratliff turn into something then fine we'll have something like a Rivers/Brees or Anderson/Quinn situation and we should be able to get value for Sanchez. If neither do anything then we'll have Sanchez to groom to be the starter. His biggest weekness is inexperience and that works for us cause he'll have at least a year to sit before we need him. It would be unwise to go into the season relying on Clemens/Ratliff to be the long term QB and having nothing behind them in terms of insurance, cause if they fail we'll have to draft a QB anyway and the opportunity to get a good one might not present itself again for a while (unless we drop a 4-12 season). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boynton Beach Jets Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 What other pressing needs? I would put QB at one of the top spots on the list. If there was young stud QB available of course the Jets should take one, but there are none available in this draft and if there was it would not be there at 17 in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleDown Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 If there was young stud QB available of course the Jets should take one, but there are none available in this draft and if there was it would not be there at 17 in the draft. Much can change in 3.5 months. Flacco came out of nowhere last year and Baltimore ended up taking him right around 17. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 There is no way in hell the Jets can go qb in round one..way too many other pressing needs for this year. where is the logic here? this makes absolutely NO sense. the biggest question mark on this team just so happens to be the most important position on the team.....QUARTERBACK!!!!!! if favre is coming back we have another year to wait. if not, and i'm going to assume he's not.....we have absolutely nothing to go with. we have 3 unproven players.....2 of whom have never taken a snap in the nfl and one who sucked when he did for a couple of games 2 years ago. wtf need do we have that is more pressing than quarterback? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 If there was young stud QB available of course the Jets should take one, but there are none available in this draft and if there was it would not be there at 17 in the draft. this si the bull**** i heard last year......"there's no stud qb's worth taking witgh a round one pick this year....yada yad a yada....." complete BS!!!!! matt ryan....joe flacco. you need a qb as badly as we probably do .....tou take the best motherfu*ker available at the position. if he doesn't cut it....you take another one the next year. repeat. repeat. repeat. until tyou find a ****ing franchise qb. you can't win consistently in this league wihtout a bonafide franchise qb. and by winnin i don't only mean making the f8ckinh play-offs to be one and done...or just have a winning record. i mean a legitimate contender consistently....that's what we want. wtf...why do people think we need a f*king cornerback or receiver more than a damned qb? newsflash people.....WE DON'T HAVE A ****ING QUARTERBACK!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleDown Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 this si the bull**** i heard last year......"there's no stud qb's worth taking witgh a round one pick this year....yada yad a yada....." complete BS!!!!! matt ryan....joe flacco. you need a qb as badly as we probably do .....tou take the best motherfu*ker available at the position. if he doesn't cut it....you take another one the next year. repeat. repeat. repeat. until tyou find a ****ing franchise qb. you can't win consistently in this league wihtout a bonafide franchise qb. and by winnin i don't only mean making the f8ckinh play-offs to be one and done...or just have a winning record. i mean a legitimate contender consistently....that's what we want. wtf...why do people think we need a f*king cornerback or receiver more than a damned qb? newsflash people.....WE DON'T HAVE A ****ING QUARTERBACK!!!!!!!!! Agreed. My philosophy is keep drafting QB until you have your franchise player. It's the most important position in sports, and the only way to be a contender year in and year out. It seems crazy to me that so many people are putting all their chips on Ratliff. Sorry to say, but the guy panning out is a pipe dream. Clemens has been a disaster from day 1. Ainge may not even be on an NFL roster in a couple of years. The bottom line is that passing up on a potential franchise QB to draft CB or WR is just plain dumb. I don't know much about Sanchez, but I do know that we have a 40 year old and three complete question marks on our roster. If the opportunity presents itself, you have to take the potential franchise QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 this si the bull**** i heard last year......"there's no stud qb's worth taking witgh a round one pick this year....yada yad a yada....." complete BS!!!!! matt ryan....joe flacco. you need a qb as badly as we probably do .....tou take the best motherfu*ker available at the position. if he doesn't cut it....you take another one the next year. repeat. repeat. repeat. until tyou find a ****ing franchise qb. you can't win consistently in this league wihtout a bonafide franchise qb. and by winnin i don't only mean making the f8ckinh play-offs to be one and done...or just have a winning record. i mean a legitimate contender consistently....that's what we want. wtf...why do people think we need a f*king cornerback or receiver more than a damned qb? newsflash people.....WE DON'T HAVE A ****ING QUARTERBACK!!!!!!!!! But, neck, how is what Boyton saying BS? He's saying that if there is a stud QB available, then draft him at 17, but he won't be there. Ryan was drafted 3rd and Flacco in the teens. If Stafford, Sanchez or QB Stud X is somehow by some drafting miracle there at 17, Boyton and I would think they draft him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 But, neck, how is what Boyton saying BS? He's saying that if there is a stud QB available, then draft him at 17, but he won't be there. Ryan was drafted 3rd and Flacco in the teens. If Stafford, Sanchez or QB Stud X is somehow by some drafting miracle there at 17, Boyton and I would think they draft him. he clearly said that there are NONE available in this draft. have a look: Originally Posted by Boynton Beach Jets If there was young stud QB available of course the Jets should take one, but there are none available in this draft and if there was it would not be there at 17 in the draft. it's the same crap i heard people saying time after time last year. it's just BS. no one knows if there is or there isn't. projecting college qb's to the pro's is a crapshoot at best. you do your scouting, and you take the best you can get. am i saying to reach anmd take a qb in the first round that can be had in the 3rd round? no, not at all. but i am saying that, by hell or high water, we need to address the qb position on this team...and we need to do it early. trade up trade down, sign a FA, trade for one. i don't care how...but it's the most important position in all of sports, and we have a big fat ?... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Sanchez would be a better pick than Jeremy Maclin or Percy Harvin, thats for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Sanchez would be a better pick than Jeremy Maclin or Percy Harvin, thats for sure. I dont think I could put up with the "dirty sanchez" jokes... lol and add to that the JETS have a bunch of young talented Qbs already... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 I dont think I could put up with the "dirty sanchez" jokes... lol and add to that the JETS have a bunch of young talented Qbs already... we do????how do you know that? cause one i haven't seen play at all. one i've barelty seen play a few snaps in preseason...and the other, while i saw him play a few games, he mostly looked quite mediocre at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 I'd go with Sanchez at 17, but I worry about his health. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 and add to that the JETS have a bunch of young talented Qbs already... We have one and he only has one year remaining on his deal. Ratliff & Ainge are Preseason and Practice Squad heroes, no real promise there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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