124 Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 PFT.com COULD 49ERS GIVE MICHAEL VICK A HOME? Posted by Josh Alper on January 23, 2009, 8:13 p.m. On our post about Dan Reeves interviewing with the 49ers, a commenter posited that Reeves going to San Francisco equaled Michael Vick going to San Francisco. It makes some sense, Reeves was the Falcons coach when they traded with the Chargers to make Vick the first overall pick in the 2001 draft and the 49ers aren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 Good thing 5180 is banned. Vick has both attitude AND balls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gun Of Bavaria Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 actually a great place for Vick Singletary would be a good mentor for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 I would love to have Vick on the Jets if he's still in football shape and aren't pitbulls illegal in NYC? See it's a win win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gun Of Bavaria Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 actually a great place for Vick Singletary would be a good mentor for him Vick would also be an instant shoe - in for Singletary with his ability to drop his pants that he's developed over the past 18 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 Vick would also be an instant shoe - in for Singletary with his ability to drop his pants that he's developed over the past 18 months. another reason for marriage:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Bit Special Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 Vick isnt going anywhere this year. There is no way Goodell lets him play football. And who would want that distraction on their team... its just not worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 I would love to have Vick on the Jets if he's still in football shape and aren't pitbulls illegal in NYC? See it's a win win. Pitbulls aren't illegal here. They are really common. IDK if I'm ready for Mike Vick + Jets yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted January 24, 2009 Author Share Posted January 24, 2009 I would love to have Vick on the Jets if he's still in football shape and aren't pitbulls illegal in NYC? See it's a win win. I second that. Vick would be a welcomed addition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 Pitbulls aren't illegal here. They are really common. IDK if I'm ready for Mike Vick + Jets yet. I guess Miami then but I lived in Miami and there ****ing pits every where even though they're illegal to own. He would also be sick running the wildcat O. As far as him being on the Jets I not sure, it would be fun to watch if he could still do the stuff he did but he's 29 now I think and with his style youth is key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenn31 Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 Maybe it's just me, but first off, Michael Vick is NOT an NFL QB. If a team decides to sign him (and I hope it ain't us Jets), he should be put somewhere like WR, DB or return specialist. Doesn't his failures as a starting QB and the failures of similar QBs (T. Jackson, V. Young, pretty soon Tim Tebow - bet on it) ring an alarm to any of the NFL personnel heads about these so-called "athletic" QBs. Randall Cunningham, these guys ain't. Secondly, while he may not be anywhere near Montana and Young, I happen to think Shaun Hill can be developed into a pretty decent QB. He looked pretty good against us (I know that's not saying much), played relatively well in a losing effort to the Cards on Monday night (he did get them into position to win that game), and he quarterbacked them to a 5-2 record to help them finish at 7-9. Given that they were 2-7 after 9 games, that's a pretty encouraging final record. Also, he did start 3 games in 2007, finished with a 2-0 record (guess he didn't finish one of them), and put up good numbers for 3 starts. Also, he pulled off a Steve Young like run in a game this past season that won my admiration. Oh, and here's a link to his stats, They look pretty good to me. Signing Vick to be their QB would be silly. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/H/HillSh00.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 another reason for marriage:D Then factor in the city of San Fran and you've got the trifecta right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 Maybe it's just me, but first off, Michael Vick is NOT an NFL QB. If a team decides to sign him (and I hope it ain't us Jets), he should be put somewhere like WR, DB or return specialist. Doesn't his failures as a starting QB and the failures of similar QBs (T. Jackson, V. Young, pretty soon Tim Tebow - bet on it) ring an alarm to any of the NFL personnel heads about these so-called "athletic" QBs. Randall Cunningham, these guys ain't. Secondly, while he may not be anywhere near Montana and Young, I happen to think Shaun Hill can be developed into a pretty decent QB. He looked pretty good against us (I know that's not saying much), played relatively well in a losing effort to the Cards on Monday night (he did get them into position to win that game), and he quarterbacked them to a 5-2 record to help them finish at 7-9. Given that they were 2-7 after 9 games, that's a pretty encouraging final record. Also, he did start 3 games in 2007, finished with a 2-0 record (guess he didn't finish one of them), and put up good numbers for 3 starts. Also, he pulled off a Steve Young like run in a game this past season that won my admiration. Oh, and here's a link to his stats, They look pretty good to me. Signing Vick to be their QB would be silly. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/H/HillSh00.htm Cunningham is the only QB I would compare to Vick. The other you mentioned haven't played in NFL or played long enough and they don't run no where near as good as Vick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenn31 Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 Cunningham is the only QB I would compare to Vick. The other you mentioned haven't played in NFL or played long enough and they don't run no where near as good as Vick. I see your point, but at the end of the day, it's all moot when you realize they all suck as NFL QBs. I don't need another 3 or 4 years of watching Jackson or Young (or anymore of Vick for that matter) to confirm those guys are all terrible QBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gun Of Bavaria Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 Vick = Wide Receiver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenn31 Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 Vick = Wide Receiver So true. Unless these "running/athlete" QBs in college develop into pocket passers in the NFL, they won't be good QBs. Granted, Young was a scrambler, so was Cunningham, and even the young Elway and Montana had scrambling ability, but eventually, they all became legitimate pocket threats and thus, very good to great QBs. This current group, with all the ESPN hype about "electrifying and revolutionary QB skills" either are unwilling to convert or just don't have it in them. And it's ugly to watch them as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 So true. Unless these "running/athlete" QBs in college develop into pocket passers in the NFL, they won't be good QBs. Granted, Young was a scrambler, so was Cunningham, and even the young Elway and Montana had scrambling ability, but eventually, they all became legitimate pocket threats and thus, very good to great QBs. This current group, with all the ESPN hype about "electrifying and revolutionary QB skills" either are unwilling to convert or just don't have it in them. And it's ugly to watch them as well. If Tebow comes in with Donovan McNabb's attitude, he has the talent to make himself a great NFL QB. In fact, I think Philly would be the perfect landing spot for Tebow if McNabb is still there. He can learn from a guy with similar physical skills who can mentor him for a few years and groom him to take over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indygirl4jets Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 Vick is a sick son of a bitch without the capability of knowing whats right from wrong and doesnt have any remorse for what he did except that he lost all his money. He will never be allowed back into the NFL. He wasnt that great anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 Man, I don't know what Michael Vick some of you guys had been watching, but the one I saw had been spiraling down a barrel of suckage long before the dog fiasco began. But yeah, 2 full seasons away from the game while in jail should have gotten him right back on track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indygirl4jets Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 Vick = Wide Receiver Hopefully, he received something wide while he has been in jail! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 So true. Unless these "running/athlete" QBs in college develop into pocket passers in the NFL, they won't be good QBs. Granted, Young was a scrambler, so was Cunningham, and even the young Elway and Montana had scrambling ability, but eventually, they all became legitimate pocket threats and thus, very good to great QBs. This current group, with all the ESPN hype about "electrifying and revolutionary QB skills" either are unwilling to convert or just don't have it in them. And it's ugly to watch them as well. McNabb used to be like that. He converted. Look how often he got hurt without tucking & running 5-6 times per game. Still not accurate enough to be considered a great QB, but he's a hell of a lot better than most guys who were drafted as "running" QB's or QB's who can "do it all" or are going to "revolutionize the position" like no one before. A QB needs to pass the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenn31 Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 If Tebow comes in with Donovan McNabb's attitude, he has the talent to make himself a great NFL QB. In fact, I think Philly would be the perfect landing spot for Tebow if McNabb is still there. He can learn from a guy with similar physical skills who can mentor him for a few years and groom him to take over. Thanks for throwing McNabb out there. I always forget his name when talking about running QBs who were able to refine themselves as a pocket QB. He's had a damn good career as an NFL QB (regardless of critics), and still can run, but not as option 2 before he goes through his reads. And if Tebow (or any of these types of QBs) can learn the game from the pocket and become true pocket threats, I suspect that they'll "magically" turn into good QBs as well. So i agree with you on that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenn31 Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 McNabb used to be like that. He converted. Look how often he got hurt without tucking & running 5-6 times per game. Still not accurate enough to be considered a great QB, but he's a hell of a lot better than most guys who were drafted as "running" QB's or QB's who can "do it all" or are going to "revolutionize the position" like no one before. A QB needs to pass the ball. Agreed totally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
green_blood Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 Vick deserves another chance. I'm sorry, but it was DOGS. Yes, it's pretty damn sick what he did, but there were no people shot or bounties placed on heads a la Pacman. If Goodell doesn't allow Vick to return to the NFL, it's just another taint on the legacy of the most hypocritical Commissioner in professional sports. The way offenses are changing actually make Vick's skill set a higher premium after the initial successes of the Wildcat variations. The only question in my mind on Vick is if he still is that athlete that people thought would be the Jordan of the NFL. Do I want Vick to be a Jet? No. Do I believe in second chances, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 Vick deserves another chance. I'm sorry, but it was DOGS. Yes, it's pretty damn sick what he did, but there were no people shot or bounties placed on heads a la Pacman. If Goodell doesn't allow Vick to return to the NFL, it's just another taint on the legacy of the most hypocritical Commissioner in professional sports. The way offenses are changing actually make Vick's skill set a higher premium after the initial successes of the Wildcat variations. The only question in my mind on Vick is if he still is that athlete that people thought would be the Jordan of the NFL. Do I want Vick to be a Jet? No. Do I believe in second chances, yes. If the NFL can make money off of Michael Vick's return, he will be reinstated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vudu Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 Assuming he'll ever touch a blade of gridiron grass again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlag Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 Are there still people alive who think Michael Vick is/was a good NFL quarterback? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
green_blood Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 Yes. Vick was a good athlete who was not used correctly in Atlanta. Mike Vick is not a WCO QB like Mora tried to make him. Maybe the Wildcat formation is just a one time fad, but someone that athletic not being in the NFL is a waste. Maybe he is a scumbag, but when evaluating Vick, his running ability was the x factor that got ATL to the NFC Championship game. I'm not guaranteeing he's still a quality NFL player, but he deserves another chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norway'sWaddlingMarmaloof Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 I second that. Vick would be a welcomed addition. Why, he's not even a good QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMaynard Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 Are there still people alive who think Michael Vick is/was a good NFL quarterback? Yes. They also believe Herm was a good head coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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