joewilly Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 it seems unless the topic is simply nonsense, it is taboo to speak about it. I fully respect the no politics policy & think it is brilliant. perhaps a little too stringent though. many well ecucated folks here & I would like to make a suggestion: allow 1 thread each day regarding current topics of yesterday & today. I think the important issues like the budget proposal etc could be discussed here without any political bashing whatsoever. if an idiot ruins it, then lock it. if it continues then a failed experiment. I apologise in advance to max & mods if you feel i'm touching on a sore subject but I think we're too strict on policing real life topics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brenjetsfan Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 THE PROPOSAL When a company falls on difficult times, one of the things that seems to happen is they reduce their staff and workers. The remaining workers need to find ways to continue to do a good job or risk that their job would be eliminated as well. Wall street, and the media normally congratulate the CEO for making this type of "tough decision", and his board of directors gives him a big bonus. Our government should not be immune from similar risks. [font=Comic Sans MS]Therefore: Reduce the House of Representatives from the current 435 members to 218 members and Senate members from 100 to 50 (one per State). Also reduce remaining staff by 25%. Accomplish this over the next 8 years. (two steps / two elections) and of course this would require some redistricting. Some Yearly Monetary Gains Include: $44,108,400 for elimination of base pay for congress. (267 members X $165,200 pay / member / yr.) $97,175,000 for elimination of the above people's staff. (estimate $1.3 Million in staff per each member of the House, and $3 Million in staff per each member of the Senate every year) [font=Comic Sans MS]$240,294[font=Comic Sans MS] for the reduction in remaining staff by 25%. $7,500,000,000 reduction in pork barrel ear-marks each year. (those members whose jobs are gone. Current estimates for total government pork earmarks are at $15 Billion / yr) The remaining representatives would need to work smarter and would need to improve efficiencies. It might even be in their best interests to work together for the good of our country? We may also expect that smaller committees might lead to a more efficient resolution of issues as well. It might even be easier to keep track of what your representative is doing. Congress has more tools available to do their jobs than it had back in 1911 when the current number of representatives was established. (telephone, computers, cell phones to name a few) Note: Congress did not hesitate to head home when it was a holiday, when the nation needed a real fix to the economic problems. Also, we have 3 senators that have not been doing their jobs for the past 18+ months (on the campaign trail) and still they all have been accepting full pay. These facts alone support a reduction in senators & congress. Summary of opportunity: $ 44,108,400 reduction of congress members. $282,100, 000 for elimination of the reduced house member staff. $150,000,000 for elimination of reduced senate member staff. $59,675,000 for 25% reduction of staff for remaining house members. $37,500,000 for 25% reduction of staff for remaining senate members. $7,500,000,000 reduction in pork added to bills by the reduction of congress members. $8,073,383,400 per year, estimated total savings. (that's 8-BILLION just to start!) [font=Comic a ns MS]Big business does these[font=Comic a ns MS] [font=Comic a ns MS]types of cuts all the time. If Congresspersons were required to serve 20, 25 or 30 years (like everyone else) in order to collect retirement benefits there is no telling how much we would save. Now they get full retirement after serving only ONE term. IF you are happy how the Congress spends our taxes, then just delete this message. IF you are NOT at all happy, then I assume you know what to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brenjetsfan Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 IS that POLITICS??? SORRY if it is....U CAN DELETE ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 it seems unless the topic is simply nonsense, it is taboo to speak about it. I fully respect the no politics policy & think it is brilliant. perhaps a little too stringent though. many well ecucated folks here & I would like to make a suggestion: allow 1 thread each day regarding current topics of yesterday & today. I think the important issues like the budget proposal etc could be discussed here without any political bashing whatsoever. if an idiot ruins it, then lock it. if it continues then a failed experiment. I apologise in advance to max & mods if you feel i'm touching on a sore subject but I think we're too strict on policing real life topics. just keep hannity (jetmoses) and colmes (bob) out of it and it might work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 it seems unless the topic is simply nonsense, it is taboo to speak about it. I fully respect the no politics policy & think it is brilliant. perhaps a little too stringent though. many well ecucated folks here & I would like to make a suggestion: allow 1 thread each day regarding current topics of yesterday & today. I think the important issues like the budget proposal etc could be discussed here without any political bashing whatsoever. if an idiot ruins it, then lock it. if it continues then a failed experiment. I apologise in advance to max & mods if you feel i'm touching on a sore subject but I think we're too strict on policing real life topics. I would like to agree with you. In my own selfish interests that policy would be good because it would increase hit counts. Those kind of hot topics would really get people posting. History has told me though that eventually (and sooner than later) that someone will knock the ball out of the park in a bad way. Lots of racist posts or stuff that just really is personal towards other posters is what usually happens. I am willing to be proven wrong though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 I would like to agree with you. In my own selfish interests that policy would be good because it would increase hit counts. Those kind of hot topics would really get people posting. History has told me though that eventually (and sooner than later) that someone will knock the ball out of the park in a bad way. Lots of racist posts or stuff that just really is personal towards other posters is what usually happens. I am willing to be proven wrong though. what do u mean u fat f**k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joebabyny Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 it seems unless the topic is simply nonsense, it is taboo to speak about it. I fully respect the no politics policy & think it is brilliant. perhaps a little too stringent though. many well ecucated folks here & I would like to make a suggestion: allow 1 thread each day regarding current topics of yesterday & today. I think the important issues like the budget proposal etc could be discussed here without any political bashing whatsoever. if an idiot ruins it, then lock it. if it continues then a failed experiment. I apologise in advance to max & mods if you feel i'm touching on a sore subject but I think we're too strict on policing real life topics. Dude, i would love to talk politics too, but that will just lead to trouble no matter what, just no real way around it, and regardless of how few threads you allow about it, the hostility created will just spill into everything else. Besides, people get heated up here enough with who should be the jets kicker, do we really need to pit political beliefs here against each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 Dude, i would love to talk politics too, but that will just lead to trouble no matter what, just no real way around it, and regardless of how few threads you allow about it, the hostility created will just spill into everything else. Besides, people get heated up here enough with who should be the jets kicker, do we really need to pit political beliefs here against each other. what do u mean u fat f**k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly Posted January 28, 2009 Author Share Posted January 28, 2009 I would like to agree with you. In my own selfish interests that policy would be good because it would increase hit counts. Those kind of hot topics would really get people posting. History has told me though that eventually (and sooner than later) that someone will knock the ball out of the park in a bad way. Lots of racist posts or stuff that just really is personal towards other posters is what usually happens. I am willing to be proven wrong though. yeah sadly, I guess the reality is that I have to agree with ya. it's not my mess to clean up if it fails either so i'll apologise for my push towards current events again. I do understand the plight of the site and the negatives that can arise from it so I apologise for stirrin the pot. I luv postin here but am struggling to find threads to chime in on thats all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 I luv postin here but am struggling to find threads to chime in on thats all here ya go ole buddy http://www.jetnation.com/forums/showthread.php?t=70958 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 yeah sadly, I guess the reality is that I have to agree with ya. it's not my mess to clean up if it fails either so i'll apologise for my push towards current events again. I do understand the plight of the site and the negatives that can arise from it so I apologise for stirrin the pot. I luv postin here but am struggling to find threads to chime in on thats all how bout you shovel out my driveway then:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 Lots of racist posts or stuff that just really is personal towards other posters is what usually happens. No one on here would post anything racist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 No one on here would post anything racist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 yeah sadly, I guess the reality is that I have to agree with ya. it's not my mess to clean up if it fails either so i'll apologise for my push towards current events again. I do understand the plight of the site and the negatives that can arise from it so I apologise for stirrin the pot. I luv postin here but am struggling to find threads to chime in on thats all What is the matter we are not entertaining you enough joewilly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly Posted January 28, 2009 Author Share Posted January 28, 2009 What is the matter we are not entertaining you enough joewilly? guess i'm just bored & wanna delve a litter deeper than jessica's waistline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 yeah sadly, I guess the reality is that I have to agree with ya. it's not my mess to clean up if it fails either so i'll apologise for my push towards current events again. I do understand the plight of the site and the negatives that can arise from it so I apologise for stirrin the pot. I luv postin here but am struggling to find threads to chime in on thats all I understand that as the board evolves you and your potty mouth are left behind. Clearly, there is less and less for you to do here. We understand that and ultimately that is a sacrifice that we are comfortable with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 No one on here would post anything racist. My bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 In my own selfish interests that policy would be good because it would increase hit counts. Those kind of hot topics would really get people posting. I know another policy that would increase post counts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brenjetsfan Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 how bout you shovel out my driveway then:D That was QUICK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 I know another policy that would increase post counts. Banning you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alk Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 No one on here would post anything racist. Not in the first post of the thread anyway... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verde Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 I don't care how civil, intelligent or pc you try to be.. when politics creep into a thread there are bound to be grudges against posters. I belong to an incredibly feel good board and there are posters who won't acknowledge one another due to a thread that involved an "intelligent" political discussion months ago. joewilly, if you want deep conversation this is the wrong forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 I don't care how civil, intelligent or pc you try to be.. when politics creep into a thread there are bound to be grudges against posters. I belong to an incredibly feel good board and there are posters who won't acknowledge one another due to a thread that involved an "intelligent" political discussion months ago. joewilly, if you want deep conversation this is the wrong forum! i can't remember what i ate for breakfast yesterday i'm sorry if i insulted someone:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 i can't remember what i ate for breakfast yesterday i'm sorry if i insulted someone:D that comment belongs in the Old Fart thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly Posted January 28, 2009 Author Share Posted January 28, 2009 i can't remember what i ate for breakfast yesterday i'm sorry if i insulted someone:D it's usually oatmeal ain't it so you don't have to put yer teeth in that early? yeah go with oatmeal & don't apologise to the little brats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green DNA Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 guess i'm just bored & wanna delve a litter deeper than jessica's waistline deeper or lower? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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