NIGHT STALKER Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Former pitcher David Wells fired back at Joe Torre on Thursday, saying the manager has unfairly criticized his ex-Yankees players in his new book. "I'm kind of like blown away because of the fact that he's coming out and he's bashing," Wells said in a radio interview in Tampa, Fla., with "The Mason & Ireland Show" aired on 710 ESPN in Los Angeles. "I found out last night that he was bashing me and Kevin Brown. He bashed Kevin Brown as a player, when he said he tried to make his life miserable," said Wells, who is out of baseball. "Nobody tries to make anybody's life miserable out there on the diamond. You're there for one reason and one reason only, and that's to win." Torre's book, The Yankee Years, co-written with Sports Illustrated's Tom Verducci, deals with the team Torre managed in New York from 1996-2007. He is now the Los Angeles Dodgers' manager. Torre said of Wells: "The difference between Kevin Brown and David Wells is that both make your life miserable, but David Wells meant to." Wells said, "If I was trying to make his life miserable, I would have succeeded. ... If he had that many problems with those guys, why didn't he face them while they were there?" Wells, who has not read the book but plans to buy one when it becomes available next week, was especially critical of Torre for talking about things that happened in the clubhouse. "What we do as athletes, that's our problem, our business, and a lot of guys have come out and destroyed that," Wells said. "That's why they don't have any friends. You just don't do that, and that's what Joe did. When you break the code, you're a punk." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharrow Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 "Wells, who has not read the book but..." Enough said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 David Wells is still relevant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 If a mananger had fined me $100K for writing a tell-all book and then went and did the same exact thing, telling tales out of school. this manager's supposed golden rule, I'd like to kick his ass too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 What are the Dodger players going to think? Is nothing sacred? Maybe the book isn't as bad as is being portrayed now, time will tell. But I think his current players aren't going to be thrilled. They are going to need Manny back in L.A. to deflect some attention away from the book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 What are the Dodger players going to think? Is nothing sacred? Maybe the book isn't as bad as is being portrayed now, time will tell. But I think his current players aren't going to be thrilled. They are going to need Manny back in L.A. to deflect some attention away from the book. Maybe they will think that they should act professional in the clubhouse and in everything they do? Is that such a bad thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 david wells is a stupid fat douchebag anyway........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT STALKER Posted January 30, 2009 Author Share Posted January 30, 2009 Maybe they will think that they should act professional in the clubhouse and in everything they do? Is that such a bad thing? Here we go, another dig at the Yankees...you must dream about this team. Seriously, do you have some kind of voodoo Yankee doll with pins in it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 Here we go, another dig at the Yankees...you must dream about this team. Seriously, do you have some kind of voodoo Yankee doll with pins in it? Actually, my quote was about the DODGERS, but you are too miopic to notice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 Actually, my quote was about the DODGERS, but you are too miopic to notice. Ugh, no it wasnt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 Ugh, no it wasnt. Uh, yes it was. Max asked how players are supposed to take Torre seriously when it comes to clubhouse ettiquette. Last I checked, Torre was managing the Dodgers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 Uh, yes it was. Max asked how players are supposed to take Torre seriously when it comes to clubhouse ettiquette. Last I checked, Torre was managing the Dodgers. You insinuated the Yankees didnt act like "professionals." Dont play stupid. It's embarrassing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 You insinuated the Yankees didnt act like "professionals." Dont play stupid. It's embarrassing. I said no such thing-You read into that. Show me where I said that. Max asked sopecifically about DODGER PLAYERS. Man, some thin skin here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 I said no such thing-You read into that. Show me where I said that. Max asked sopecifically about DODGER PLAYERS. Man, some thin skin here. I inferred it because 100% of your posts are Yankee related. It was pretty transparent. Again, you're playing stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 I inferred it because 100% of your posts are Yankee related. It was pretty transparent. Again, you're playing stupid. Actually, and unfortunately, 40% of my posts are now in reply to thin skinned Yankee fans who constantly feel somewhat less insignificant because they attribute everything said to be Yankee related, when in most times it is even not. Max asked about Dodger players and how they should respond , and specifically mentioned Manny Ramirez. I added that those players (yes, Dodger players) should look to act responsibly. As if any of their actions could actually be reported. This holds true for ANY team and any player, but was attributed directly to Max and Dodger and Torre reply. Of course, you need to make it about the Yankees. SAD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT STALKER Posted January 30, 2009 Author Share Posted January 30, 2009 You insinuated the Yankees didnt act like "professionals." Dont play stupid. It's embarrassing. Thank you...the guy is wrapped up in Yankee hate that he tries to masquerade it by talking Dodger "professionals". Dude, I was born a long time ago...not yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 Thank you...the guy is wrapped up in Yankee hate that he tries to masquerade it by talking Dodger "professionals". Dude, I was born a long time ago...not yesterday. senility has it's drawbacks. Listen, if you and Matt have such a problem seeing what I post, and it hurts your feelings so badly to have negative things supposedly said about the Yankees, PUT ME ON IGNORE. Shelter your comfortable little pinstriped world and IGNORE ME. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 Good for Boomer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT STALKER Posted January 30, 2009 Author Share Posted January 30, 2009 senility has it's drawbacks. Listen, if you and Matt have such a problem seeing what I post, and it hurts your feelings so badly to have negative things supposedly said about the Yankees, PUT ME ON IGNORE. Shelter your comfortable little pinstriped world and IGNORE ME. Oh boo hoo, don't take your ball and go home now. And you seem to have senility at an early age....you're going to be a riot in another couple of decades or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT STALKER Posted January 30, 2009 Author Share Posted January 30, 2009 Actually, and unfortunately, 40% of my posts are now in reply to thin skinned Yankee fans who constantly feel somewhat less insignificant because they attribute everything said to be Yankee related, when in most times it is even not. Max asked about Dodger players and how they should respond , and specifically mentioned Manny Ramirez. I added that those players (yes, Dodger players) should look to act responsibly. As if any of their actions could actually be reported. This holds true for ANY team and any player, but was attributed directly to Max and Dodger and Torre reply. Of course, you need to make it about the Yankees. SAD I see you can't add as well...90% of your posts are anti Yankees. You have this misconception of a person being thin skinned and one just defending their turf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeebers Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 Maybe they will think that they should act professional in the clubhouse and in everything they do? Is that such a bad thing? Not a terrible thing. It works both ways though. There are some clubhouse that are wild and wacky and they'll get the job done. Look at the 2004 Sawx, they had some crazy characters in that group. Or the '86 Mets, those guys knew how to have fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 I see you can't add as well...90% of your posts are anti Yankees. You have this misconception of a person being thin skinned and one just defending their turf. There was a time on this board, where adult baseball discussion could take place. I had excellent baseball discussions with Yankee fans such as AirForceJetfan, MBN, among others where we could openly and honestly discuss each others teams, talk freely and more than anything, respect each other's opinions. There was no crying, there was no private messaging Max and Mods about thoughts that other people had that differed from our own. We are able to kid each other , cajole each other and the various teams, and not have knee jerk reactions just because something was said about the Mets or the Yankees. Yes, it was like that. There was not immediate people reading into posts and saying (oh, that is a subversive Yankee (or Met) dig), how dare you! It was adult. Unfortunately, you are unable to filter that type of adult dialogue. Everything is either Yankee or anti-Yankee to you. Every comment has to be put in one bucket or the either. If a comment doesn't fit a bucket, force it into one. Some people would call that small mindedness and simple mindedness. I call it sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 just defending their turf. You defend that turf NS, keep the Yankee world free from negative thoughts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor99 Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 Not a terrible thing. It works both ways though. There are some clubhouse that are wild and wacky and they'll get the job done. Look at the 2004 Sawx, they had some crazy characters in that group. Or the '86 Mets, those guys knew how to have fun. They also knew how to decapitate cats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT STALKER Posted January 30, 2009 Author Share Posted January 30, 2009 You defend that turf NS, keep the Yankee world free from negative thoughts You missed the point...again. Nothing wrong with posting negative stuff about the Yankees. I do it myself. You on the other hand do it constantly...that's all you seem to do. Now, go ahead and put your own little spin on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 They also knew how to decapitate cats. Kevin was just doing what they did in the 'hood. He even frightened Doc with that stunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 You missed the point...again. Nothing wrong with posting negative stuff about the Yankees. I do it myself. You on the other hand do it constantly...that's all you seem to do. Now, go ahead and put your own little spin on it. JBF would have made Nightstalker's head explode. There would have been so much determining and scrutinizing every post whether it was anti-Yankee oriented or not, he would have virtually collapsed upon himself like a black hole. All that would be left would be a little "26 medallion" bent in half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeebers Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 JBF would have made Nightstalker's head explode. There would have been so much determining and scrutinizing every post whether it was anti-Yankee oriented or not, he would have virtually collapsed upon himself like a black hole. All that would be left would be a little "26 medallion" bent in half. SD, I would have to disagree with you in regards to Yankee fans on this board being thinned skinned. I was told they are "hardcore" Speaking of hardcore, what ever happened to Anskykloogy?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 SD, I would have to disagree with you in regards to Yankee fans on this board being thinned skinned. I was told they are "hardcore" Speaking of hardcore, what ever happened to Anskykloogy?? Banned for being "hardcore" He is now a VIP at JI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT STALKER Posted January 30, 2009 Author Share Posted January 30, 2009 JBF would have made Nightstalker's head explode. There would have been so much determining and scrutinizing every post whether it was anti-Yankee oriented or not, he would have virtually collapsed upon himself like a black hole. All that would be left would be a little "26 medallion" bent in half. Here you go trying to put some kind of spin of what you think I would have done...get out in the real world man. You do suffer from senility at a young age...I feel sorry for you because I was on this forum when Jet/BosoxFan was here. My main beef with him was how come he never posted in the Jets forum if he was a Jets fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 Here you go trying to put some kind of spin of what you think I would have done...get out in the real world man. You do suffer from senility at a young age...I feel sorry for you because I was on this forum when Jet/BosoxFan was here. My main beef with him was how come he never posted in the Jets forum if he was a Jets fan. Wasn't it you that also ran awy from this site in a huff? or do I have you confused with some other sensitive soul? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT STALKER Posted January 30, 2009 Author Share Posted January 30, 2009 Wasn't it you that also ran awy from this site in a huff? or do I have you confused with some other sensitive soul? No, look in the mirror dude. I just called you on JBF **** you posted and you come up with some other BS. And quit hiding behind the "invisible mode" like the roach you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 No, look in the mirror dude. I just called you on JBF **** you posted and you come up with some other BS. And quit hiding behind the "invisible mode" like the roach you are. So you didn't take a hiatus away from this site because of hurt feelings? Sorry I had you confused with another guy. My apologies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT STALKER Posted January 30, 2009 Author Share Posted January 30, 2009 So you didn't take a hiatus away from this site because of hurt feelings? Sorry I had you confused with another guy. My apologies. Nope, nothing to do with hurt feelings. Health reasons there SD if you must really know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 There was a time on this board, where adult baseball discussion could take place. I had excellent baseball discussions with Yankee fans such as AirForceJetfan, MBN, among others where we could openly and honestly discuss each others teams, talk freely and more than anything, respect each other's opinions. There was no crying, there was no private messaging Max and Mods about thoughts that other people had that differed from our own. We are able to kid each other , cajole each other and the various teams, and not have knee jerk reactions just because something was said about the Mets or the Yankees. Yes, it was like that. There was not immediate people reading into posts and saying (oh, that is a subversive Yankee (or Met) dig), how dare you! It was adult. Unfortunately, you are unable to filter that type of adult dialogue. Everything is either Yankee or anti-Yankee to you. Every comment has to be put in one bucket or the either. If a comment doesn't fit a bucket, force it into one. Some people would call that small mindedness and simple mindedness. I call it sad. You come of extremely smug. Especially with your endless ridiculous Yankee hatred, which is why people call you out for being a jerk. And I have better things to do than pm max complaining about people. Condescing gets boring after a while, especially when everyone is laughing at you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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