JonEJet Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Just a phenominal perfomance by Ben Play maker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Are you ****ing serious? It wasn't even the best performance by a QB in THIS GAME. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Uh, sarcasm, perhaps? Would have been very difficult to bring out James Harrison as MVP after ejecting him. Which probably is what should have happened. That INT before half was the play the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Just a phenominal perfomance by Ben Play maker your sounding like simms suking off favre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangGreen Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Are you ****ing serious? It wasn't even the best performance by a QB in THIS GAME. QFT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancemehl Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Just a phenominal perfomance by Ben Play maker Joe Montana, for starters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted February 2, 2009 Author Share Posted February 2, 2009 I'm sorry IMO I just watched the best drive in the history of The SuperBowl That last drive, he put the team on his back, and wanted just more It was fun to watch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aec4 Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Just a phenominal perfomance by Ben Play maker Dude, Ben had a great drive to win the game.. but he also failed to get his team into the end zone twice when they were inside the 5! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Dude, Ben had a great drive to win the game.. but he also failed to get his team into the end zone twice when they were inside the 5! Actually, that was three times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Wasn't the best QB performance in SB history but it was a great one. He was better than Warner. People do underestimate how easier it is for a QB when he has Larry Fitzgerald. Bens pick was unlucky. Warners was simply stupid and probably cost Arizona the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted February 2, 2009 Author Share Posted February 2, 2009 When it mattered, he made the plays Joe Montana in the game where he threw the TD to Taylor only scored 21 points Where was he the rest of the game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 When it mattered, he made the plays Joe Montana in the game where he threw the TD to Taylor only scored 21 points Where was he the rest of the game? Did he have a hadnful of chances form the 5? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Actually, that was three times. 1 was tomlins fault 4th and 6 inches Come on man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
war ensemble Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Ben played decent at best. He had one great drive, and failed miserably three times from inside the 5. That's inexcusable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Wasn't the best QB performance in SB history but it was a great one. He was better than Warner. People do underestimate how easier it is for a QB when he has Larry Fitzgerald. Bens pick was unlucky. Warners was simply stupid and probably cost Arizona the game. Sorry. Warner was way better. That penultimate Steller drive with 35 penalty yards could've been the single worst piece of officiating in NFL history. Doesn't detract from the Steelers drive in which the Cards' defense folded like a cheap camera, nor does it top the job Warner did. No problem with the Steelers winning, but Ben was the 2nd best QB today, and not by a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 1 was tomlins fault 4th and 6 inches Come on man Its his fault they didnt get it the 1st three tries? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted February 2, 2009 Author Share Posted February 2, 2009 This arguement is laughable You guys don't realize greatness when you see it That O-line SUCKED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 I'm sorry IMO I just watched the best drive in the history of The SuperBowl That last drive, he put the team on his back, and wanted just more It was fun to watch Did you even watch last year's SB? Seriously. Eli's drive was 10X better than Big Ben's. Remember, Big Ben led the offense against a bad defense while Eli led the offense against a top 5 defense to win the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Its his fault they didnt get it the 1st three tries? Come on Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Sorry. Warner was way better. That penultimate Steller drive with 35 penalty ayards could've been the single worst piece of officiating in NFL history. Doesn't detract from the Steelers drive in which the Cards' defense folded like a cehap camera, nor does it top the job Warner did. No problem with the Steelers winning, but Ben was the 2nd best QB today, and not by a bit. This is complete BS. Ben wasn't playing with 2 of the best WR's in the league. One being the best WR in the league AND Ben didn't **** his team over with a stupid pick 6 before halftime to lose all his teams momentum. Ben was better than Warner today - MUCH better. Blaming the officiating is laughable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharrow Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Sorry. Warner was way better. That penultimate Steller drive with 35 penalty yards could've been the single worst piece of officiating in NFL history. Doesn't detract from the Steelers drive in which the Cards' defense folded like a cheap camera, nor does it top the job Warner did. No problem with the Steelers winning, but Ben was the 2nd best QB today, and not by a bit. How many times did Ben turn it over in the red zone for a TD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
war ensemble Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 This arguement is laughable You guys don't realize greatness when you see it That O-line SUCKED And the Cardinals D-Line sucked at tackling. Also, do you think there's any correlation between the Steelers' great drive and the fact that Ben had all the time in the world throughout that drive? When the O-Line played bad, Ben played decent at best. The big guys up front rose to the occasion, allowing the Steelers to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 This is complete BS. Ben wasn't playing with 2 of the best WR's in the league. One being the best WR in the league AND Ben didn't **** his team over with a stupid pick 6 before halftime to lose all his teams momentum. Ben was better than Warner today - MUCH better. Blaming the officiating is laughable. Not blaming anyone. And the officials' incompetence is a nonfactor. Warner was the better QB this evening. Ben got the ball last and did his best. The play of the game was Harrison's INT, which Ben had nothing to do with. Warner did, but still his 2nd half comeback was fantastic. Ben deserves credit, but he is not in Warner's class. Which is not a knock, simply a fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Big Ben threw for 1 TD against the worst D in the NFL. Congrats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 And the Cardinals D-Line sucked at tackling. Also, do you think there's any correlation between the Steelers' great drive and the fact that Ben had all the time in the world throughout that drive? When the O-Line played bad, Ben played decent at best. The big guys up front rose to the occasion, allowing the Steelers to win. The offensive line were not great on that last drive. Ben was, as always, running around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Not blaming anyone. And the officials' incompetence is a nonfactor. Warner was the better QB this evening. Ben got the ball last and did his best. The play of the game was Harrison's INT, which Ben had nothing to do with. Warner did, but still his 2nd half comeback was fantastic. Ben deserves credit, but he is not in Warner's class. Which is not a knock, simply a fact. IMO warner cost his team a SB win....terrible pick6 Ben did not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted February 2, 2009 Author Share Posted February 2, 2009 Big Ben is an Elite QB Warner is a system guy.....no improv whatsoever He has to scrable at the end of the game, and he fumbles Ben scrambles, and completes pass after pass Bugg, I thought you were better than this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Steeler's Overall Defense Ranking: 1st Cardinal's Overal Defense Ranking: 19th Steeler's Pass Defense Ranking: 1st Cardinal's Pass Defense Ranking: 22nd The bottom line is that while Big Ben did not have Warner's quality of receivers, Ben was still playing against a bad defense and bad pass defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Big Ben threw for 1 TD against the worst D in the NFL. Congrats. Have you watched Arizona in the playoffs at all this season? They are FAR from thw worst defense in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 How could a QB not look good with larry Fitzgerald at WR? I mean seriously? Just throw it high enough! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
war ensemble Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 The offensive line were not great on that last drive. Ben was, as always, running around. Credit the time he had to the fact that the Cardinals D-Line can't tackle at all. I'd say Ben had a great performance, if it wasn't for that early underthrow with a guy wide open. Would've been an easy TD, but he let the CB catch up by not leading his receiver. Although he did a stellar job at scrambling and avoiding tackles, there was nothing amazing about his actual passes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 IMO warner cost his team a SB win....terrible pick6 Ben did not That is fair. Warner overcame a tremendous error. Ben got the ball last and did his best. A good game at the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
war ensemble Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 How could a QB not look good with larry Fitzgerald at WR? I mean seriously? Just throw it high enough! I think the difference between talent on D versus talent at WR cancel each other out. What I'm saying is, having Fitz and Boldin vs the #1 D equates having Holmes and Miller vs a decent D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aten Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 When it mattered, he made the plays Joe Montana in the game where he threw the TD to Taylor only scored 21 points Where was he the rest of the game? In 1990 Montana went 22-29-297-5 and hung 55 on the best scoring defense in the league. Pretty sure that one was better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Credit the time he had to the fact that the Cardinals D-Line can't tackle at all. I'd say Ben had a great performance, if it wasn't for that early underthrow with a guy wide open. Would've been an easy TD, but he let the CB catch up by not leading his receiver. Although he did a stellar job at scrambling and avoiding tackles, there was nothing amazing about his actual passes. Actually for the most part there was, especially on that last drive. Look at that the TD throw to Holmes again. There's a defender right in front of Holmes and Ben just lofts it over him. People think it wasn't that great a throw because it required a great catch, but it was. Some of the throws he made were ridiculous. Including some of the throw aways were he managed to get out of the pocket and avoid intentional grounding. Most QB's under that kind of pressure have to either take a sack or throw a dangerous pass, not Ben. That's what makes him so good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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