FranchiseCorner24 Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,2144,3787690,00.html This is groundbreaking stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gangreenman Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,2144,3787690,00.html This is groundbreaking stuff Possibly. Does sound like a rare case though, and its not entirely certain that the HIV virus has even been removed from all parts of his body. Also, the people most affected by HIV/AIDS (the poor in Africa and Asia) cannot even afford anti-retrovirals. In fact, we cannot even afford to GIVE them the anti-retrovirals. How the hell are we supposed to find enough HIV-resistant genetic mutants to even satisfy the amount of people with the disease, nevermind find a way to pay for it. Ill grant that its a small step in the right direction, but I wouldn't exactly say that an AIDS cure has been found quite yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jbro22 Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Possibly. Does sound like a rare case though, and its not entirely certain that the HIV virus has even been removed from all parts of his body. Also, the people most affected by HIV/AIDS (the poor in Africa and Asia) cannot even afford anti-retrovirals. In fact, we cannot even afford to GIVE them the anti-retrovirals. How the hell are we supposed to find enough HIV-resistant genetic mutants to even satisfy the amount of people with the disease, nevermind find a way to pay for it. Ill grant that its a small step in the right direction, but I wouldn't exactly say that an AIDS cure has been found quite yet. Important step. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 My ass. If a cure for AIDS had actually been found, you'd here about it on every TV/Radio station worldwide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinnys025 Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 My ass. If a cure for AIDS had actually been found, you'd here about it on every TV/Radio station worldwide. Yea...like big Pharma would allow that to happen....lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Magic Johnson is still trucking. He bought the cure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsis Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Possibly. Does sound like a rare case though, and its not entirely certain that the HIV virus has even been removed from all parts of his body. Also, the people most affected by HIV/AIDS (the poor in Africa and Asia) cannot even afford anti-retrovirals. In fact, we cannot even afford to GIVE them the anti-retrovirals. How the hell are we supposed to find enough HIV-resistant genetic mutants to even satisfy the amount of people with the disease, nevermind find a way to pay for it. Ill grant that its a small step in the right direction, but I wouldn't exactly say that an AIDS cure has been found quite yet. Well no. But who says that the mutated enzyme that is found in a number of human being can't be synthesized. If they know what happened all they need it to find an artificial means to replicate it. I worry about curing aids and cancer and seeing what comes next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragmatic Bus Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Well no. But who says that the mutated enzyme that is found in a number of human being can't be synthesized. If they know what happened all they need it to find an artificial means to replicate it. I worry about curing aids and cancer and seeing what comes next. its not that simple. the way HIV works is it attaches itself to a host cell injects the host cell with its DNA and other proteins that help deliver the DNA strand to the nucleus, where it binds with the DNA of the host cell and starts making mRNA for protien synthesis and other virus components which after completion. makes a new virus, the process continues until the host cell is dissolved. each host cell can produce hundreds of HIV viruses. now the genitic mutation in the HIV resistant cells is probably a defective protien on the cell surface that prohibits the virus from fusing to the host cell rendering the virus useless, however it doesnot kill the virus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragmatic Bus Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 9leO28ydyfU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Bravo Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Magic Johnson does not look like an HIV infected person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragmatic Bus Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Magic Johnson does not look like an HIV infected person. you can have HIV but not have AIDS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsis Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 its not that simple. the way HIV works is it attaches itself to a host cell injects the host cell with its DNA and other proteins that help deliver the DNA strand to the nucleus, where it binds with the DNA of the host cell and starts making mRNA for protien synthesis and other virus components which after completion. makes a new virus, the process continues until the host cell is dissolved. each host cell can produce hundreds of HIV viruses. now the genitic mutation in the HIV resistant cells is probably a defective protien on the cell surface that prohibits the virus from fusing to the host cell rendering the virus useless, however it doesnot kill the virus. Yeah, I understand all of this. My whole point is. That this could give scientists a new angle to go at it. Seeing if they can synthesize that protein or replicate its effects. Who cares if it kills the virus or not if it renders it useless or even if it renders it less effective or if it slows it down a lot. I'm not saying that overnight something is going to happen but if this is a viable solution to the problem we could see something in ten years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishooked Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,2144,3787690,00.html This is groundbreaking stuff I'm sure patsfans.com is overjoyed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 I would argue that the most interesting question is where this mutation came from to begin with. For a while now, it has been hypothesized that it came about because it offers resistance to the Black Plague, hence it's geographical location, however later studies have shown that it was already widespread in the population before the plague hit Europe. This is the quintesential example of a deletion mutation. It's a 32-bp segment that was deleted, which results in a nonfuctional receptor. Like Chadharmoon said, this nonfunctional recepter prevents the entry of HIV. An individual that contains a homozygous pair of these alleles will prevent a considerable amount of HIV prevention. If the doctors in Germany show that their is still no signs of any level of HIV, than this is definitely one hell of a breakthrough. The HIV strain that was present in the patient, which is one that doesn't use the HIV resistant receptor, was not present after the Cancer treatment. This is incredible. Should be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verde Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 you can have HIV but not have AIDS Hmmmm.. How do you know so much about HIV/AIDS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhinHater Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 you can have HIV but not have AIDS Magic Johnson's HIV is almost undetectable at this point. I am happy for him about that. What you need to realize is that he has TONS of money to spend on medications and experimental drugs. It's sad that the average person can't afford the medicines like he can. I do hope and pray that they come out with a cure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryK Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Apparently you can announce a "cure" before it's approved or exists. So why can't we announce a semi-real-but-not-really cure to something? I'm thinking maybe a suction-cup for inverted nipples. thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinnys025 Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 What about Tommy Morrison....or as I like to remember him "TOMMY GUN"? ....actually I just saw him in a fight two weeks ago....yes, he still fights. I guess he doesn't have HIV anymore either....wtf??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 What about Tommy Morrison....or as I like to remember him "TOMMY GUN"? ....actually I just saw him in a fight two weeks ago....yes, he still fights. I guess he doesn't have HIV anymore either....wtf??? Tommy claims he never had it now. Definitely a weird situation. Either way he should have stayed with Rocky, he would have had a better career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joebabyny Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Magic Johnson does not look like an HIV infected person. he doesn't look healthy to me though, that chubbiness is prednizone swelling to me. I gained 80 pounds in 7 months when I went through chemo. Who the eff gains weight with cancer other than me?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 My ass. If a cure for AIDS had actually been found, you'd here about it on every TV/Radio station worldwide. Errrrr you would think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragmatic Bus Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Hmmmm.. How do you know so much about HIV/AIDS? molecular biology Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Does this mean that AIDS jokes are now more funny or less funny? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragmatic Bus Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 Does this mean that AIDS jokes are now more funny or less funny? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 its not that simple. the way HIV works is it attaches itself to a host cell injects the host cell with its DNA and other proteins that help deliver the DNA strand to the nucleus, where it binds with the DNA of the host cell and starts making mRNA for protien synthesis and other virus components which after completion. makes a new virus, the process continues until the host cell is dissolved. each host cell can produce hundreds of HIV viruses. now the genitic mutation in the HIV resistant cells is probably a defective protien on the cell surface that prohibits the virus from fusing to the host cell rendering the virus useless, however it doesnot kill the virus. Wait a second, isn't HIV a retrovirus. Aren't you describing the opposite of what HIV actually does? It uses reverse transcriptase to go from RNA to DNA not the other way around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragmatic Bus Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 Wait a second, isn't HIV a retrovirus. Aren't you describing the opposite of what HIV actually does? It uses reverse transcriptase to go from RNA to DNA not the other way around. your right. i didn't want to go into a lot of details so i kept it simple but watch the video that i posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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