124 Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, a group that complains bitterly when animals die accidentally in horse races or intentionally in slaughterhouses, killed more than 90 percent of the adoptable animals in its care during 2007. http://www.petakillsanimals.com/ Great job, PETA :rl: FREE MIKE VICK!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiLMiCKMANTLE Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 thats is some craziness right there.... F U PETA and F U Coors Beer!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 I'm no huge fan of PETA, but euthanasia is a necessary and ethical process. Dogs are put down daily because their aren't enough willing adopters, do you suppose PETA is going to kill them all? And, just as I wouldn't take seriously everything that PETA says, I wouldn't lend too much credibility to arguments made by a site called 'petakillsanimals.com' PETA draws so much hate because people don't realize that they're being intentionally annoying, because they are trying to draw attention to their message, and they do an incredible job of it. The reality is, you're not going to buy into what they say if they made sound logic based arguments either, so they work to get their names in the papers and such, to keep attention on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borgoguy Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Someone, please tell me what's wrong with torturing and killing innocent animals. Are they attempting to take all the fun out of life? A little vivisection never hurt anybody. Okay, maybe the animals a little. But that's not a bad thing, is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Someone, please tell me what's wrong with torturing and killing innocent animals. Are they attempting to take all the fun out of life? A little vivisection never hurt anybody. Okay, maybe the animals a little. But that's not a bad thing, is it? Remember those posts you made about old JI guys making 'look at me posts'... Good times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted February 18, 2009 Author Share Posted February 18, 2009 NO EXCUSES!! THROW THEM IN JAIL, NO QUESTIONS ASKED. TWO YEARS IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE KANSAS. NO QUESTIONS ASKED. JAIL. NOW. F THEM. They killed animals, more than just Pitbulls, so throw them in ****ing jail. **** them. FREE MIKE VICK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jbro22 Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 So they were just animals that PETA tried to rescue and were too far gone? So realistically they saved 10% of the animals that were going to die anyways? Is that right? I hate PETA as much as the next guy, but twisting facts is ghey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gun Of Bavaria Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Michael Vick would have done less time in jail, with 90% less public reaction, if he had sexually assaulted a woman. Sad fact, but something I think is 100% true. The standards in this country continue to deteriorate when there is more of a public backlash over treatment of animals than there is over treatment of fellow humans. That said, F Michael Vick and I'm glad he did time. I have no problem with that. My whole problem is the dichotomy of public outrage between animal victims and human victims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borgoguy Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Remember those posts you made about old JI guys making 'look at me posts'... Good times. What do you mean, EY? It was an attempt at irreverent humor, that's all. You read this as my calling out for attention? Maybe you should block my postings. You don't--and probably never will--get me or my humor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsis Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 PETA is a joke and this is not one of the big reasons why. The biggest reason why PETA is a joke is because they wear socks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowmoe57 Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 I'm surprised PETA has yet to say anything about the treatment of Travis the chimp - after all he was a TV star. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Joe needs to spit out Mike Vick's junk. Didn't you hear about the "Ron Mexico" incident, Joe? You don't need that problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 What do you mean, EY? It was an attempt at irreverent humor, that's all. You read this as my calling out for attention? Maybe you should block my postings. You don't--and probably never will--get me or my humor. I get you, and your humor. I have no intention or interest in blocking you. And, on it's own, it was funny. I also don't see what you posted as a far cry from what many of the new JN posters say or do, but for that, you chose to call them out. That was the point, sorry if you don't--and probably never will--get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Michael Vick would have done less time in jail, with 90% less public reaction, if he had sexually assaulted a woman. Sad fact, but something I think is 100% true. The standards in this country continue to deteriorate when there is more of a public backlash over treatment of animals than there is over treatment of fellow humans. That said, F Michael Vick and I'm glad he did time. I have no problem with that. My whole problem is the dichotomy of public outrage between animal victims and human victims. It's really quite simple. Vick wasn't just involved in dog flighting. He didn't just participate. He enabled it. He was a promenant role. He used his money to fund it. NFL money. He ran an illegal gambling ring. I don't like to spend a lot of time saying one offense is worse than another, because they are both attrocities. But we are simply not comparing the one time sexual assault, where one can 'say' even if it's complete BS, that it was a mistake, or a moment of weakness. For all intents and purposes, Vick ran a criminal organization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryK Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 I'm no huge fan of PETA, but euthanasia is a necessary and ethical process. Dogs are put down daily because their aren't enough willing adopters, do you suppose PETA is going to kill them all? And, just as I wouldn't take seriously everything that PETA says, I wouldn't lend too much credibility to arguments made by a site called 'petakillsanimals.com' PETA draws so much hate because people don't realize that they're being intentionally annoying, because they are trying to draw attention to their message, and they do an incredible job of it. The reality is, you're not going to buy into what they say if they made sound logic based arguments either, so they work to get their names in the papers and such, to keep attention on them. Nobody will refute your post, because this thread isn't about reason. It's a celebration of a fake website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 If Mike Vick put down the dogs he had in the same fashion he would not be seen as such a scumbag... its the fact that he tortured the dogs that makes him an *******... Peta did not torture them... Valiant effort I guess though 124... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32green Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 PETA draws so much hate because people don't realize that they're being intentionally annoying Red paint intentionally thrown on clothing actually enters into the realm of criminal mischief, a NYS PL crime. That's where they lose folks. Not saying they all do it, but that is what people remember when they hear the name PETA. Thus, they are tuned out as whackos much akin to the 9/11 conspiracy theorists. Or is that Nambla? I mix up my whackos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borgoguy Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 I get you, and your humor. I have no intention or interest in blocking you. And, on it's own, it was funny. I also don't see what you posted as a far cry from what many of the new JN posters say or do, but for that, you chose to call them out. That was the point, sorry if you don't--and probably never will--get it. It wasn't a call out. Rather, an attempt to get everyone away from the many JI/JN "war" threads, and to embrace JetNation. But why take a shot at me here rather than in that thread? The answer is that you--and several of your sycophantic cohorts--have a calculated agenda against me for some reason. Just by your juvenile and intentionally insulting post--which initiated these responses--you are continuing to belabor the JI vs JN mindset, which is--IMO--detrimental and divisive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indygirl4jets Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Michael Vick would have done less time in jail, with 90% less public reaction, if he had sexually assaulted a woman. Sad fact, but something I think is 100% true. The standards in this country continue to deteriorate when there is more of a public backlash over treatment of animals than there is over treatment of fellow humans. That said, F Michael Vick and I'm glad he did time. I have no problem with that. My whole problem is the dichotomy of public outrage between animal victims and human victims. I think the fact you fail to recognize is that these animals were tortured and killed. When there are cases of people being treated the same way, the outcry is just as loud, if not louder, as the victim, if alive, has a voice. Animals dont. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indygirl4jets Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 NO EXCUSES!! THROW THEM IN JAIL, NO QUESTIONS ASKED. TWO YEARS IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE KANSAS. NO QUESTIONS ASKED. JAIL. NOW. F THEM. They killed animals, more than just Pitbulls, so throw them in ****ing jail. **** them. FREE MIKE VICK Stir, stir, stir............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gun Of Bavaria Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 I think the fact you fail to recognize is that these animals were tortured and killed. When there are cases of people being treated the same way, the outcry is just as loud, if not louder, as the victim, if alive, has a voice. Animals dont. No offense, but that's just not the case. I see some ruthless crap in my line of work and have seen some bad things happen to very good people. No one is there to cover the story unless there's some "excitement" (A pursuit, a shootout, etc) that goes with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 No offense, but that's just not the case. I see some ruthless crap in my line of work and have seen some bad things happen to very good people. No one is there to cover the story unless there's some "excitement" (A pursuit, a shootout, etc) that goes with it. Guess what? Im willing to bet 100's of people get locked up for the same **** vick did and we never hear about it... I am also willing to bet if someone of Vick's status tortured human beings it would be a HUGE national story... What exactly are you trying to prove here? No **** a NFL star got more coverage than joe Shmo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 It wasn't a call out. Rather, an attempt to get everyone away from the many JI/JN "war" threads, and to embrace JetNation. But why take a shot at me here rather than in that thread? The answer is that you--and several of your sycophantic cohorts--have a calculated agenda against me for some reason. Just by your juvenile and intentionally insulting post--which initiated these responses--you are continuing to belabor the JI vs JN mindset, which is--IMO--detrimental and divisive. This much we agree upon. I cringed when that thread showed up. I'm here, I'm happy, and everything that needed to be said was said. I'm well past it. I know I've done exactly that, embraced JetNation. I think many of the 'regular' new people, unlike the 'in and out' new people, seem to have done the same. These threads are not getting bumped by former-JI guys. That's a fact. Sure, many have jumped on board, but you should really take a closer examination of the facts before you take your seat on the moral high ground. And, once again, you're doing exactly that which you accuse... trolling for attention, 'sycophantic cohorts'... you can't be serious. Honestly, I don't really give you a moments thought beyond reading your posts and moving to the next one in line. But, you decided there's an agenda... Here's a hint: In the matter of Borgoguy, JN Poster... NO ONE CARES. Just like the rest of us. Further, was it us that brought up you, or the other way around? You make derogatory comments, filled with superflous language (not for attention, of course) and then you get something back and you claim conspiracy. You really, really need to get over yourself. Self-importance doesn't suit you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indygirl4jets Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Guess what? Im willing to bet 100's of people get locked up for the same **** vick did and we never hear about it... I am also willing to bet if someone of Vick's status tortured human beings it would be a HUGE national story... What exactly are you trying to prove here? No **** a NFL star got more coverage than joe Shmo... Exactly!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryK Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 To claim that "crime x (here: sexual assault) isn't prosecuted strongly enough, therefore crimes w,y & z deserve no attention (here: animal cruelty, parking violations etc)" is a red herring. We can certainly call for stronger domestic violence legislation; but until we do, other laws are still completely valid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yisman Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 They're mad at Vick because they're the ones who get to kill the animals, not him. HOW DARE HE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gun Of Bavaria Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Guess what? Im willing to bet 100's of people get locked up for the same **** vick did and we never hear about it... I am also willing to bet if someone of Vick's status tortured human beings it would be a HUGE national story... What exactly are you trying to prove here? No **** a NFL star got more coverage than joe Shmo... Say whatever you want. You have your opinion and I have mine. I'm talking about the reaction from John/Jane Q. Public on matters. The Public's wouldn't respond with massive boycotts, protests & calls for blood outside the courthouse if it had been humans he tortured. You'd have people telling the press, "well we need to wait until all the facts are in" and "he's innocent until proven guilty". All in all, most Americans could give a crap less when it comes to crimes against humans, but when it comes to animals, all of a sudden it's time for action. Give me a break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 http://www.petakillsanimals.com/ Great job, PETA :rl: but they didnt eat them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borgoguy Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 This much we agree upon. I cringed when that thread showed up. I'm here, I'm happy, and everything that needed to be said was said. I'm well past it. I know I've done exactly that, embraced JetNation. I think many of the 'regular' new people, unlike the 'in and out' new people, seem to have done the same. These threads are not getting bumped by former-JI guys. That's a fact. Sure, many have jumped on board, but you should really take a closer examination of the facts before you take your seat on the moral high ground. And, once again, you're doing exactly that which you accuse... trolling for attention, 'sycophantic cohorts'... you can't be serious. Honestly, I don't really give you a moments thought beyond reading your posts and moving to the next one in line. But, you decided there's an agenda... Here's a hint: In the matter of Borgoguy, JN Poster... NO ONE CARES. Just like the rest of us. Further, was it us that brought up you, or the other way around? You make derogatory comments, filled with superflous language (not for attention, of course) and then you get something back and you claim conspiracy. You really, really need to get over yourself. Self-importance doesn't suit you. Again, you are attempting to skew the facts in your favor. You took my comments from another thread, and a few days ago, and referenced them here to take a shot at me. How is that not giving my posts more than a moment's notice? Or, not caring what I say? You're not only a joke, but a fraud of a joke, as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32green Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Say whatever you want. You have your opinion and I have mine. I'm talking about the reaction from John/Jane Q. Public on matters. The Public's wouldn't respond with massive boycotts, protests & calls for blood outside the courthouse if it had been humans he tortured. You'd have people telling the press, "well we need to wait until all the facts are in" and "he's innocent until proven guilty". All in all, most Americans could give a crap less when it comes to crimes against humans, but when it comes to animals, all of a sudden it's time for action. Give me a break. +1 Well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
war ensemble Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 *Groan* Can't you guys just let all this JI stuff pass? If it comes to it, just ignore each other and stop bloating every thread with this stuff. I have no problem with getting off-topic in threads, but this stuff doesn't even make sense. If you all forget about it, pretend it never happened, or something like that you can get on to posting like normal--without a monkey on your back. Sorry, I just find the constant bickering pretty annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Say whatever you want. You have your opinion and I have mine. I'm talking about the reaction from John/Jane Q. Public on matters. The Public's wouldn't respond with massive boycotts, protests & calls for blood outside the courthouse if it had been humans he tortured. You'd have people telling the press, "well we need to wait until all the facts are in" and "he's innocent until proven guilty". All in all, most Americans could give a crap less when it comes to crimes against humans, but when it comes to animals, all of a sudden it's time for action. Give me a break. Do you even watch the news? Caylee Anthony ring a bell? When it was just a missing person case it was getting TONS of coverage... TONS... once they foudn out the mom dumped her on baby girl that she murdered in a bag in the woods it got much worse... people want her dead... people are calling for blood... thousands have showed up to support however possible... hundreds were at the funeral just to show support... Now imagine if this same mom had taken little kids and fought them in a ring the tortured them to death.... you dont think that would get an even larger reaction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indygirl4jets Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Say whatever you want. You have your opinion and I have mine. I'm talking about the reaction from John/Jane Q. Public on matters. The Public's wouldn't respond with massive boycotts, protests & calls for blood outside the courthouse if it had been humans he tortured. You'd have people telling the press, "well we need to wait until all the facts are in" and "he's innocent until proven guilty". All in all, most Americans could give a crap less when it comes to crimes against humans, but when it comes to animals, all of a sudden it's time for action. Give me a break. I still think you are missing the point. People have rights, even when being prosecuted and/or incarcerated. The worst thing we can do to people is the death penalty, which is typically given for crimes similiar in nature to what Vick did. The overwhelming attention given to this case is because it was Vick, this crap goes on all of the time, we just dont hear about it. Animals have no voice, no choice, and no rights. But, they do feel pain and suffering just like humans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 I still think you are missing the point. People have rights, even when being prosecuted and/or incarcerated. The worst thing we can do to people is the death penalty, which is typically given for crimes similiar in nature to what Vick did. The overwhelming attention given to this case is because it was Vick, this crap goes on all of the time, we just dont hear about it. Animals have no voice, no choice, and no rights. But, they do feel pain and suffering just like humans. He is trying to say we dont care about humans, just animals... lol Nobody pays attention when people hurt humans... ::cough:::OJ Simpson::cough::: just animals... we pick on Mike Vick... he is really not a bad guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsis Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 The peta members who eat grain that is harvested from fields that kill millions of animals a year. Who wear clothes made by slave child labor. Who drive cars that consume and pollute tons of natural resources. Who live in cities that have displaced ten of millions of animal's natural habitat's. Who smoke pot that funds terrorists activities does not surprise me in the least bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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