My Opinion, Your Thoughts (Draft).

[villain_the_foe]

I've been really thinking about all of our approach as fans to this entire QB situation that we have here this offseason. I've been thinking about draft possiblities and I must say, After reading different peoples comments and trying to look at this situation in the most unbiased of circumstances, This is my opinion.

If Mark Sanchez is available at spot 17 (which he most likely wont) the Jets are going to draft him.

This kid doesnt look half bad, he actually looks pretty good. Though I would love to see what Ratliff could do as a fan, thinking as a Woody you have to make sure that you have a solid QB, and if you dont have one then you draft one. I really cant see the Jets taking the road to signing another old QB. The Jets will not go down that road twice...even if they had a shot at getting a McNabb for example.

I doubt that the Jets are going to bank on their hopes at QB with Clemens and Ratliff no matter what their personal feelings are.

So this means that If Sanchez is available and the Jets draft him we can say bye to Clemens. Not because I'm in favor for Ratliff, but because Ratliff has put on such an impressive performance they figure that they could save the money by dumping Clemens but will also get aleast the same performance out of Ratliff.

It also doesnt help that it looks like Sanchez is the type of player that can step in and play right now.

Your thoughts.

[gang_green03]

Starting Sanchez his rookie year would be the worst possible thing we could do IMO. I agree that we should take him if around but that's assuming the Jets are patient with him. He has all the tools and pretty much his only big weakness is experience, so they need to bring him along slowly. I like our situation for him because we don't need to go to him early since we have Clemens/Ratliff. They shouldn't dump Clemens at all if they take Sanchez. The idea is not to require him to start until at least his second season. I want him as insurance since Clemens and Ratliff haven't shown nearly enough to give you peace of mind that you have a QB for the next 10 years. Just cause you take a 1st round QB doesn't mean you have to start him immediately and I think that thought process is a big factor in these players becoming busts, especially those with limited experience.

I do agree that the Jets need to stop putting band aids on their QB position. Enough with relying on another teams declining veteran. They need to man up and develop their own QB for once.

[neckdemon]

Starting Sanchez his rookie year would be the worst possible thing we could do IMO. I agree that we should take him if around but that's assuming the Jets are patient with him. He has all the tools and pretty much his only big weakness is experience, so they need to bring him along slowly. I like our situation for him because we don't need to go to him early since we have Clemens/Ratliff. They shouldn't dump Clemens at all if they take Sanchez. The idea is not to require him to start until at least his second season. I want him as insurance since Clemens and Ratliff haven't shown nearly enough to give you peace of mind that you have a QB for the next 10 years. Just cause you take a 1st round QB doesn't mean you have to start him immediately and I think that thought process is a big factor in these players becoming busts, especially those with limited experience.

I do agree that the Jets need to stop putting band aids on their QB position. Enough with relying on another teams declining veteran. They need to man up and develop their own QB for once.

i don't get it. you tal like either of these guys has already shown they can at least play at the pro level. ratliff's only advantage over sanchez is that he's been in the sysrtem for a couple years....otherwise his experience is just as little as sanchez. clemens has don nothing, imo, tho show that he can do it. if we get sanchez, i'd much rather us have a vet who can hold the fort for a year and then sanchez plays next year. clemens goes.

[LWC611]

We alreqady have young inexperienced QB's on the roster, now the thinking is we take a college kid who comes out early to add to the mix. I say no thanks, while he did come out of a prostyle offense, he needed more time. I would sonner wait an take a flier on a chase daniels in the later rounds. ( I know I will get murdered for that one) I think we bring in a vet to provide competition to Clemens and Ratliff. If neither one of them can beat out an old veteran, then we really need to think qb for the next draft and get rid of both of them next year.

[neckdemon]

We alreqady have young inexperienced QB's on the roster, now the thinking is we take a college kid who comes out early to add to the mix. I say no thanks, while he did come out of a prostyle offense, he needed more time. I would sonner wait an take a flier on a chase daniels in the later rounds. ( I know I will get murdered for that one) I think we bring in a vet to provide competition to Clemens and Ratliff. If neither one of them can beat out an old veteran, then we really need to think qb for the next draft and get rid of both of them next year.

yeah so we wait, yet another year, to try and find ourselves a franchise qb. if this is what happens and we could have at least had sanchez to try out....this franchise is stupid.

[LWC611]

yeah so we wait, yet another year, to try and find ourselves a franchise qb. if this is what happens and we could have at least had sanchez to try out....this franchise is stupid.

I guess my point is we have QBs to try out, we need a WR like a Hakeem Nicks from UNC or a Heywood Bey from Md, Althought I think the MD kid may be a reach at 17. Finally sanchez is by no means a guaranteed franchise QB, so why waste the pick on him when you have two young QBs on the roster. But I guess we should just agree to disagree...

[neckdemon]

I guess my point is we have QBs to try out, we need a WR like a Hakeem Nicks from UNC or a Heywood Bey from Md, Althought I think the MD kid may be a reach at 17. Finally sanchez is by no means a guaranteed franchise QB, so why waste the pick on him when you have two young QBs on the roster. But I guess we should just agree to disagree...

yeah....my view is that if you don't have a franchise qb on the roster you keep drafting one until you find him. over 25 years i've been wathcing this team. closest thing we had to one was o'brien. it's time to find one God damn it. lol.

[124]

If we pick Mark Sanchez we set this franchise back 5 years, just like San Francisco did with Alex Smith.

[SenorGato]

If we pick Mark Sanchez we set this franchise back 5 years, just like San Francisco did with Alex Smith.

Why?

[slats]

We alreqady have young inexperienced QB's on the roster, now the thinking is we take a college kid who comes out early to add to the mix. I say no thanks [..] I think we bring in a vet to provide competition to Clemens and Ratliff. If neither one of them can beat out an old veteran, then we really need to think qb for the next draft and get rid of both of them next year.

I agree. Improve the cast around the QB's in this year's draft, and give them all a chance. The Jets have an investment in Clemens, and have some faith in Ratliff - let them see what they can do.

yeah so we wait, yet another year, to try and find ourselves a franchise qb. if this is what happens and we could have at least had sanchez to try out....this franchise is stupid.

The #1 reason not to give Sanchez a "try out" is because I don't believe he's a franchise QB. If he's not, then he's a complete waste of a #1 pick - a pick the Jets need to produce for them on the field ASAP.

This is a weak draft for QB's, and a weak FA class, too. This is a good year to fix up the rest of your team and take a long, final look at what you've got at the QB position. You hope one of them pans out. If not, you gotta believe there'll be better options in the draft and FA next year than Sanchez and J.P. Losman.

[villain_the_foe]

Starting Sanchez his rookie year would be the worst possible thing we could do IMO. I agree that we should take him if around but that's assuming the Jets are patient with him. He has all the tools and pretty much his only big weakness is experience, so they need to bring him along slowly. I like our situation for him because we don't need to go to him early since we have Clemens/Ratliff. They shouldn't dump Clemens at all if they take Sanchez. The idea is not to require him to start until at least his second season. I want him as insurance since Clemens and Ratliff haven't shown nearly enough to give you peace of mind that you have a QB for the next 10 years. Just cause you take a 1st round QB doesn't mean you have to start him immediately and I think that thought process is a big factor in these players becoming busts, especially those with limited experience.

I do agree that the Jets need to stop putting band aids on their QB position. Enough with relying on another teams declining veteran. They need to man up and develop their own QB for once.

I never said that he would be the starter, though it may not be all that bad as you have put it. We have one of the best O-lines in the league and this QB is known for being elusive. He has a canon and his accuracy is decent. It may not be all that bad if he were to start. I would rather see Ratliff out there though.

[Ghost]

Starting Sanchez his rookie year would be the worst possible thing we could do IMO. I agree that we should take him if around but that's assuming the Jets are patient with him. He has all the tools and pretty much his only big weakness is experience, so they need to bring him along slowly. I like our situation for him because we don't need to go to him early since we have Clemens/Ratliff. They shouldn't dump Clemens at all if they take Sanchez. The idea is not to require him to start until at least his second season. I want him as insurance since Clemens and Ratliff haven't shown nearly enough to give you peace of mind that you have a QB for the next 10 years. Just cause you take a 1st round QB doesn't mean you have to start him immediately and I think that thought process is a big factor in these players becoming busts, especially those with limited experience.

I do agree that the Jets need to stop putting band aids on their QB position. Enough with relying on another teams declining veteran. They need to man up and develop their own QB for once.

It doesn't really mean we're going to start him. I think the only reason JF started for the Ravens was because Smith was hurt and they had a great defense.

[villain_the_foe]

I guess my point is we have QBs to try out, we need a WR like a Hakeem Nicks from UNC or a Heywood Bey from Md, Althought I think the MD kid may be a reach at 17. Finally sanchez is by no means a guaranteed franchise QB, so why waste the pick on him when you have two young QBs on the roster. But I guess we should just agree to disagree...

In many ways I agree with this. I do think that we need a WR asap. but what happens when if the Jets come into a situation where they may have Nicks and Sanchez available. Do you take the WR when you already have Cotchery, a potential start in Clowney and Coles...or do you pick Sanchez because though he may not be a Franchise QB we certainly dont have one at the moment.

Its a hard situation because we certainly need a WR as well....not to mention positions on the Defense.

My question is, do we pass on Sanchez if he's available. I think that he would probably be the best player on the board if he dropped down that far. We can take the best player on the board to fill a position that we kinda do need.

[villain_the_foe]

I agree. Improve the cast around the QB's in this year's draft, and give them all a chance. The Jets have an investment in Clemens, and have some faith in Ratliff - let them see what they can do.

The #1 reason not to give Sanchez a "try out" is because I don't believe he's a franchise QB. If he's not, then he's a complete waste of a #1 pick - a pick the Jets need to produce for them on the field ASAP.

This is a weak draft for QB's, and a weak FA class, too. This is a good year to fix up the rest of your team and take a long, final look at what you've got at the QB position. You hope one of them pans out. If not, you gotta believe there'll be better options in the draft and FA next year than Sanchez and J.P. Losman.

So, we dont try out Sanchez because "you" dont believe he's a franchise qb huh??? thats kinda funny. I mean, I'm all for Ratliff to show the truth, but your reason for the "JETS" not to draft is kinda out there.

How can you say that this year is a weak draft for QBs? we wouldnt be able to really say that until about 3-5 years down the road dont you think?

[slats]

So, we dont try out Sanchez because "you" dont believe he's a franchise qb huh??? thats kinda funny. I mean, I'm all for Ratliff to show the truth, but your reason for the "JETS" not to draft is kinda out there.

How can you say that this year is a weak draft for QBs? we wouldnt be able to really say that until about 3-5 years down the road dont you think?

Okay... Most of the geniuses out there think this is a weak year for QB's, okay? History tells us that junior QB's almost always have a rough road in the NFL. Pete Carroll thinks Sanchez isn't ready for the NFL. His arm strength is questionable, which is a tremendous red flag for a QB in jints stadium. He's only started a handful of games, and did that on a perennial powerhouse. He's very tough to judge.

So my reason not to draft him is that I believe his bust:boom ratio is thru the roof, and that there will be better prospects available at that spot at other areas of need. There was a lot more info on Matt Leinart a couple years back, and Tanny was all too happy to pass on him. I suspect he'll pass on this Trojan as well.

And yeah, you can't judge a draft until years down the road - it's true. So from now on, I suggest that we limit all our draft talk to discussion about 2005 and earlier. Good call!

[gang_green03]

I don't know where you're getting that his arm strength is an issue. It might not be on an elite level like Stafford but that doesn't mean its not strong enough to make all the throws. Also, Carroll probably didn't want him to leave for many reasons. The fact that he wants to win a championship and he would've had a better shot at that with Sanchez is one.

i don't get it. you tal like either of these guys has already shown they can at least play at the pro level. ratliff's only advantage over sanchez is that he's been in the sysrtem for a couple years....otherwise his experience is just as little as sanchez. clemens has don nothing, imo, tho show that he can do it. if we get sanchez, i'd much rather us have a vet who can hold the fort for a year and then sanchez plays next year. clemens goes.

They have shown enough to deserve a strong look. It doesn't make sense to completely give up on them since they both have potential and haven't really played all that much. You should have a reasonable sample size to judge them before you just throw them away.

I never said that he would be the starter, though it may not be all that bad as you have put it. We have one of the best O-lines in the league and this QB is known for being elusive. He has a canon and his accuracy is decent. It may not be all that bad if he were to start. I would rather see Ratliff out there though.

I guess I was basing it off you saying that he looks like he can come in and play right away, but you're right my mistake. We do have a good situation for a young QB since he'd merely have to manage the game behind a good o-line, but he's so inexperienced I think it'd be doing him a big disservice to rush him.