ECURB Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 After the year that Johnson had, no way I give up a 2nd round pick for him. Moss for a 4th... that makes Ocho worth about a 5th and a 7th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowmoe57 Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 After the year that Johnson had, no way I give up a 2nd round pick for him. a 3rd or 4th then -- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uart Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 After the year that Johnson had, no way I give up a 2nd round pick for him. SRSLY. I'd trade for him, but I wouldn't give up a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Moss for a 4th... that makes Ocho worth about a 5th and a 7th a 3rd or 4th then -- Just to repeat... Moss for a 4th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Bryan Thomas for Anquan Boldin. There, I said it. Make it happen, Mike. LOL, that would be the biggest raping of a deal in football history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vudu Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Cincy had a down year, Chad Johnson sufferedbecause of it. Fitzpatrick isnt that good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 I hate the dead cap, but its only for one year, and we weren't getting a real #1 receiver with Coles on the depth chart. What dead cap? The way I read it, Coles let the Jets out of the guaranteed year (hence the "gamble" on his part). He's a $1M cap hit off the team instead of a $7M cap hit on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdropOFvenom Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 After the year that Johnson had, no way I give up a 2nd round pick for him. Two words: Ryan Fitzpatrick. His extremely-conservative style pretty much took the ball out of Ocho Cinco's hands. He's still an extremely talented player, although his increasing age (31) is a concern to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMaynard Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Unless we just get lucky, a rookie WR - particularly someone to be the #1 guy - is something to draft when we have 2 starters in place. Very few prove to be worthy of starting as rookies (particularly in week 1). With the current cap room, IMO we're in the market for a veteran either in FA or through a trade. Bryan Thomas for Anquan Boldin. There, I said it. Make it happen, Mike. I can see a #1 draft pick AND a veteran pick up. We were thin at WR before this happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 What dead cap? The way I read it, Coles let the Jets out of the guaranteed year (hence the "gamble" on his part). He's a $1M cap hit off the team instead of a $7M cap hit on it. Thats what it seems like after reading it close enough... That would be fantastic... he was not worth 7 million.. and it was certainly worth saving 6 to cut him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 :ban::ban::ban::ban::ban: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uart Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 What dead cap? The way I read it, Coles let the Jets out of the guaranteed year (hence the "gamble" on his part). He's a $1M cap hit off the team instead of a $7M cap hit on it. Oh, then I friggin' love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdropOFvenom Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Just to repeat... Moss for a 4th No offense, but the Moss situation was pretty unique and most definitely seen as an aberration by the rest of the league. He had a monster salary and was able to force his exit from Oakland by only being willing to rework his contract for certain teams. It was either accept little in compensation, or cut him and he'll walk to a team of his choice. If teams compared every deal to Randy Moss's trade, no trade would ever get made because lets face it, who is trading their star for a 5th round pick? It makes no sense in normal circumstances. Johnson's value is probably around a 2nd round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 :ban::ban::ban::ban::ban: With the Phins led by BP himself becoming "JETS South" you need a name change... lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 With the Phins led by BP himself becoming "JETS South" you need a name change... lol Wait, a former toy store owner/used car salesman is giving me advice? that's funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borgoguy Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 It was time. The last two years--either because of injuries, age, or missing his F-Buddy Chad--Colesy hasn't been the same guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Wait, a former toy store owner/used car salesman is giving me advice? that's funny. List your accomplishments at the age of 23... it would only be fair... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 List your accomplishments at the age of 23... it would only be fair... I don't bring them up on a public forum, like you did. so they're not fair game. you're a little too sensitive at times, ECURB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeWillie Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Barton to follow shortly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norway'sWaddlingMarmaloof Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Barton to follow shortly? The Barton that's a free agent on Friday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 I don't bring them up on a public forum, like you did. so they're not fair game. you're a little too sensitive at times, ECURB. Considering both of those jobs require as much exposure as possible.. lol I had customers order from my shop who found me here... nobody bought a car though... lol I dont talk about the other ventures... I only talked about those because it benefited me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 LAME. If you thought this offense was going to suck before now its just plain pitiful. No quarterback and our WRs Cotchery Stuckey and Smith. Again, LAME. Bad job Rex. BAD JOB. So now we basically lose our best receiver, both of our blocking TEs and our best run blocker. Wonderful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Housh > Coles, by far. We're not getting Housh. Not gonna happen. Quote me on that. This offense is in serious trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsis Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Coles sucks. I'm glad he is gone. **** him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Coles will be in Miami Friday, no way he turns down that money with out a handshake from Bill IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Coles sucks. I'm glad he is gone. **** him. Ok what you and a lot of posters around here don't seem to understand is that even if it were true that Coles sucks (it's not), it would still suck a lot less to have him here. You REALLY want to see an offense with Cotch as the #1 and a bunch of nobodies and a draft pick next to him? Or what else do you want to do, OVERPAY for some guy like Housh or Boldin that will come here and be exposed as a SCRUB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiveMike Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Coles was a good player here, and I'm sort of sad to see him go. He was a huge cry baby and was always b!tching about his contract, but he gave 100% every week and was fairly productive. This is probably the best move for the team in the long term -- that is IF they don't go out and waste a ton of money on Housh, who is basically the same guy as Coles. We don't need any WRs on the decline. So that means no Housh, no Ocho, no TO. Boldin would work if he didn't require a bunch of draft picks. We need to draft a legit WR with our 1st or 2nd pick. There are some quality guys out there this year, and I'm sure Rex and Mike have a few in mind. I really like Brian Robiskie as a 2nd round pick. He's a coach's son, that usually makes for a smart player. He's also 6'3" and runs well. Mike Wallace, Deon Butler, and Tiquan Underwood are guys I like for the later rounds. We have plenty of money free to sign some quality FAs. We NEED a CB in the worst way, let's go out and get a good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/200..._wide_rec.html New York Jets release wide receiver Laveranus Coles by Dave Hutchinson/Star-Ledger Staff Wednesday February 25, 2009, 4:13 PM The Jets released veteran wide receiver Laveranus Coles this afternoon -- but both sides left open the possibility of his return to the team. Coles, who was scheduled to earn a guaranteed $6 million salary for the 2009-10 season, wanted a long-term deal with the team. But when the two sides could not reach an agreement, they reached a compromise, giving Coles the right to find his own deal on the open market on the eve of free agency. "We didn't leave on bad terms,'' Coles said. "It's not out of the question that I could come back." Coles, 31, is taking a gamble , as his contract for the upcoming season was guaranteed, something unusual in the NFL. Coles, however, feels a long-term deal is more important to him than they guarantee. "I look at it as a long-term thing,'' he said. "It's something my agent (Roosevelt Barnes) and I (discussed) for a long time. I trust my agent. He's been in my corner for a long time. He gave me his opinion. He said he truly believed we could get a long-term deal on the open market and I took his word for it. "I want to go somewhere where I can finish my career. I don't want to bounce from team to team. I hope to play another three or four years." The Jets and new coach Rex Ryan told Coles a new deal was not going to happen with them right now. "Rex and I had a good talk,'' Coles said. "He explained to me that he didn't want to give veterans who are in their second contract a new deal before their current deal was completed. "I explained to him that my situation was a little bit different because this situation has been ongoing. But I understand what Rex is trying to do and I don't want to jeopardize what he's trying to put in place. He has been honest with me from the word, 'Go.'" Coles was drafted by the Jets in the third round of the 2000 draft and has played on the team for seven of his nine seasons in the league. He signed a free-agent deal with the Redskins before the start of the 2003 season, but was traded back to the Jets two years later. Last season, Coles had 70 catches for 850 yards and seven touchdowns. For his career, Coles has 459 catches for 5,941 yards and 37 touchdowns. The free-agent signing period begins at 12:01 a.m. on Friday morning. "My time with the Jets was great," Coles said. "I love the fans, my teammates and my coaches. I always wanted to finish my career in New York, but I've always said this is a business." WAY TO GO 128 !!!!! Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Considering both of those jobs require as much exposure as possible.. lol I had customers order from my shop who found me here... nobody bought a car though... lol I dont talk about the other ventures... I only talked about those because it benefited me... Yes you most certainly did . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joebabyny Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 I'm sure he let the Jets out of the "guaranteed" 2009 season. Interesting to say the least. The Jets have a lot of cap room now. Wonder if they're going after Boldin. Coles' departure is the only way it could happen. Sperm, after all these moves, what kind of cap room do the jets have now? And I wonder how they compare to the rest of the league cap wise right now. Seems like they are going to be big players again in free agency and/or the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 It was time. The last two years--either because of injuries, age, or missing his F-Buddy Chad--Colesy hasn't been the same guy. No he hasn't . Maybe he can be reunited with his lover Chadwick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norway'sWaddlingMarmaloof Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 WAY TO GO 128 !!!!! Thanks For what? That mongoloid was the one that got Coles to remove the guaranteed money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnjet Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 from profootballtalk.com ON FURTHER REVIEW, COLES WALKED AWAY FROM HIS $6 MILLION Posted by Mike Florio on February 25, 2009, 5:55 p.m. OK, now this is getting weird. Despite a report in the New York Daily News that the guaranteed $6 million in base salary that receiver Laveranues Coles is due to earn from the Jets will be reduced by whatever he earns elsewhere, Dave Hutchinson of the Newark Star-Ledger has clarified for us that Coles has walked away from the guaranteed payment. So, in other words, Coles gave up $6 million guaranteed in search of even more. So, in other words, the Jets owe him nothing. There Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJ667 Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 What dead cap? The way I read it, Coles let the Jets out of the guaranteed year (hence the "gamble" on his part). He's a $1M cap hit off the team instead of a $7M cap hit on it. sperm is right, it's only a 1 million dead money situation that's what NYJETSCAP has em down for *week 3 coles out for season after Pennington hangs him out to dry* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdropOFvenom Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 from profootballtalk.com ON FURTHER REVIEW, COLES WALKED AWAY FROM HIS $6 MILLION Posted by Mike Florio on February 25, 2009, 5:55 p.m. OK, now this is getting weird. Despite a report in the New York Daily News that the guaranteed $6 million in base salary that receiver Laveranues Coles is due to earn from the Jets will be reduced by whatever he earns elsewhere, Dave Hutchinson of the Newark Star-Ledger has clarified for us that Coles has walked away from the guaranteed payment. So, in other words, Coles gave up $6 million guaranteed in search of even more. So, in other words, the Jets owe him nothing. There Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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