Klecko73isGod Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Didnt know that... Based on the "knowledge" you usually display on this board, I wouldn't be surprised at all if you didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 This is a great signing plain and simple. Doesnt matter if he is the best in the league or if the is just a very good player. Rex coached the guy for many years, if he wanted him, there is a reason and I am very excited to see that reason in action. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dolphann4life Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Based on the "knowledge" you usually display on this board, I wouldn't be surprised at all if you didn't. How creative MR.T another kick in the nuts icon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dolphann4life Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Based on the "knowledge" you usually display on this board, I wouldn't be surprised at all if you didn't. Listen Mr.T all i'm saying is i don't think the price tag fits Bart Scott. Rex wanted his man though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 and we're going to be running the identical type of defense here in NJ. Remember our DC is the same guy well i'm pretty sure that when scott played olb....it was when the ravens were still using the 4-3 predominantly. we'll be using the 3-4 predominantly.....most likely. scott will be ilb for us then. if we do switch to a 4-3 on occasion maybe he'll play olb.....or maybe he plays mlb and harris moves or sits that play out. idk. but scott will be ilb for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Anxiously awaiting the official report. Assuming that it will come later today, it is striking to compare the quality of FAs Tanny has signed in the last 2 years with that Bradway signed in his whole tenure. Tanny seemed to follow Bradway's model his first 2 years then went in a different direction. Bradway's biggest FA moments was wiffing on Antione Winfield (one of my most upsetting Jets moments in recent years with how it all played out), signing Barton, Barret & Reggie Tongue. Seriously, Barton and Barrett were Bradway's biggest FA signings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 This is a great signing plain and simple. Doesnt matter if he is the best in the league or if the is just a very good player. Rex coached the guy for many years, if he wanted him, there is a reason and I am very excited to see that reason in action. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Exactly, trolls trying to call this a mistake are embarrassing themselves. He's not the best LB in the league, he's not even top 5. But he's very good, he fits our system, and he fills a need. As to his price tag, the price of doing business in the NFL goes up every year. The contract he signed is not backbreaking, nor would anyone not trying to put down the Jets even blink an eye at it. He got a nice deal for the best linebacker (all things considered) available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Listen Mr.T all i'm saying is i don't think the price tag fits Bart Scott. Rex wanted his man though Same was said about your boy Porter when he signed....and he's still mediocre. However I wouldn't expect you too see that though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Listen Mr.T all i'm saying is i don't think the price tag fits Bart Scott. Rex wanted his man though What you fail to grasp is that in this FA era of the last 5 years under the newly structured CBA, EVERY top FA is overpaid. Seriously. Name me a top FA that hit the market and you didn't say, "Wow, that's a lot of money." Charlie Casserly mentioned this on the radio today when asked by Boomer Eisiesen whether Haynesworth was overpaid. Casserly said, "This is free agency. Everyone gets overpaid." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 This is good news to wake up too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.I.MikeBleedsGreen Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Great move by our front office, I couldn't be happier. Our D is going to be lock down this year. Bank on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 I'm looking forward to the Read-and-React defense with Scott, Harris, Thomas, and Pace all dropping into coverage!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashingjet Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Same was said about your boy Porter when he signed....and he's still mediocre. However I wouldn't expect you too see that though. Really? 17.5 sacks and an invitation to the Pro Bowl is mediocre? OK, if you say so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dolphann4life Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Same was said about your boy Porter when he signed....and he's still mediocre. However I wouldn't expect you too see that though. Mediocre??? I won't even respond to that. You sir, are a moron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Exactly, trolls trying to call this a mistake are embarrassing themselves. He's not the best LB in the league, he's not even top 5. But he's very good, he fits our system, and he fills a need. As to his price tag, the price of doing business in the NFL goes up every year. The contract he signed is not backbreaking, nor would anyone not trying to put down the Jets even blink an eye at it. He got a nice deal for the best linebacker (all things considered) available. from all accounts he seems to be very versatile. and will probably allow us to morph schemes during a game more seemlessly. he;s suppopsedly goo din coverage...which is something our current lb'ers were exposed at relatively poor at last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dolphann4life Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 I'm looking forward to the Read-and-React defense with Scott, Harris, Thomas, and Pace all dropping into coverage!!! lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashingjet Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 What you fail to grasp is that in this FA era of the last 5 years under the newly structured CBA, EVERY top FA is overpaid. Seriously. Name me a top FA that hit the market and you didn't say, "Wow, that's a lot of money." Charlie Casserly mentioned this on the radio today when asked by Boomer Eisiesen whether Haynesworth was overpaid. Casserly said, "This is free agency. Everyone gets overpaid." Chad Pennington. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 I'm looking forward to the Read-and-React defense with Scott, Harris, Thomas, and Pace all dropping into coverage!!! i guess you're being sarcastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Exactly, trolls trying to call this a mistake are embarrassing themselves. He's not the best LB in the league, he's not even top 5. But he's very good, he fits our system, and he fills a need. As to his price tag, the price of doing business in the NFL goes up every year. The contract he signed is not backbreaking, nor would anyone not trying to put down the Jets even blink an eye at it. He got a nice deal for the best linebacker (all things considered) available. Yep. And you really cant equate the value of a coach on the field. He is going to be the guy explaining the system during practice when our guys are finally just going to get after it instead of being robots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 from all accounts he seems to be very versatile. and will probably allow us to morph schemes during a game more seemlessly. he;s suppopsedly goo din coverage...which is something our current lb'ers were exposed at relatively poor at last year. Hopefully with the 'attack defense' we've been promised, we wont have to rely on such coverage quite as much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dolphann4life Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 What you fail to grasp is that in this FA era of the last 5 years under the newly structured CBA, EVERY top FA is overpaid. Seriously. Name me a top FA that hit the market and you didn't say, "Wow, that's a lot of money." Charlie Casserly mentioned this on the radio today when asked by Boomer Eisiesen whether Haynesworth was overpaid. Casserly said, "This is free agency. Everyone gets overpaid." Exactly everyone gets overpaid thats why u don't make the big splash. History has told us you usually don't win championships through FA, am i not right? You overpay for players. I prefer to be bargain hunter in FA to fill holes as well as depth and build and get my elite players through the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BF4LC87 Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Exactly, trolls trying to call this a mistake are embarrassing themselves. He's not the best LB in the league, he's not even top 5. But he's very good, he fits our system, and he fills a need. As to his price tag, the price of doing business in the NFL goes up every year. The contract he signed is not backbreaking, nor would anyone not trying to put down the Jets even blink an eye at it. He got a nice deal for the best linebacker (all things considered) available. And he's an upgrade over Barton. Thats all we can ask for as fans. The good thing about having scott and pace in the same LB group is that they can move around and it gives us more flexibility. Lovin this move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Mediocre??? I won't even respond to that. You sir, are a moron. And a below average first season. Point is the same thing was said about Porter and then looks like he was a wiff in year one and did well last year. If you want a comparison in what we got is a ILB who averages 65 tackles at the ILB position. Plus he's a guy who knows the system and can help teach it to other LB's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Mediocre??? I won't even respond to that. You sir, are a moron. Really? 17.5 sacks and an invitation to the Pro Bowl is mediocre? OK, if you say so He had a good first part of the year, but fell off @ the end. Lets not even bring up how he played his first year with you guys. He didn't do **** @ the end of the year, when you guys need him. Especially in your playoff game..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 YEEEESSSSSS!!!! Awesome news, Scott IS elite. Jets will have a top 10 defense in 09 without a doubt IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancemehl Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Especially with major needs at CB, S, G, and QB still looming. I thought we filled our S need with a Raven? The Guard need we created for ourselves, nice job. I believe Lowery is our guy at CB, and I like Poteat, but still, I agree it's a need, whether it's a dime CB or a #2, another quality CB is a need. QB is our MAJOR NEED. WR is our 2nd MAJOR NEED. especially now. OH,Let me whack the ****t out of this horse, the Moore thing was idiotic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neckdemon Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Hopefully with the 'attack defense' we've been promised, we wont have to rely on such coverage quite as much. maybe we'll run some 46 defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious89x Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Exactly everyone gets overpaid thats why u don't make the big splash. History has told us you usually don't win championships through FA, am i not right? You overpay for players. I prefer to be bargain hunter in FA to fill holes as well as depth and build and get my elite players through the draft. There's downsides to each approach because quite frankly you can fall flat on your face on each. As of right now our GM seems to have done a good job of controlling our cap, once it gets out of control that's when it hurts. Step out of the dolphin shoes and think of the signing rationally Jets get: A premier ILB. He's not average. In his prime Playing in a system he's played his entire career Playing next to another young talented ILB We could do worse honestly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancemehl Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 You'll like the signing just fine once you see him play. Had you seen Bart Scott play, you'd be as geeked up and happy as me right now. I I hope you're right, again, though, you were watching him play next to the greatest in the game. I Do hope you're right!!! Unlike Mangini, Rex has CONSISTENTLY had a dominating defense, so I'll give him the benefit, he knows. Another positive is that they(scott and leonhard) know his system,they will be player/coaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dolphann4life Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Shaun Springs just got released Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancemehl Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Jets get: A premier ILB. He's not average. In his prime Playing in a system he's played his entire career Playing next to another young talented ILB We could do worse honestly. But he's not "premiere" or he would have been in the pro bowl. He is average in a great system. Ray Lewis is premiere. Ed Reed is premiere. Heynsworth is premiere.Peppers is premiere. Scott is good. But the next three points are correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Shaun Springs just got released :hand: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Anyone who's watched Bart Scott play consistently (Ravens fans have told me he's as good as any defensive player in the league) can tell just how good he is. People who base things on stats are going to be surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Anyone who's watched Bart Scott play consistently (Ravens fans have told me he's as good as any defensive player in the league) can tell just how good he is. People who base things on stats are going to be surprised. Stats are overrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Exactly everyone gets overpaid thats why u don't make the big splash. History has told us you usually don't win championships through FA, am i not right? You overpay for players. I prefer to be bargain hunter in FA to fill holes as well as depth and build and get my elite players through the draft. That's not accurate. FA is an effective tool in winning a championship. The problem is when it's the only tool. The Packers, Niners & Cowboys effectively used FA to aid them in their championship runs. The Patriots have done it as well. A team that drafts well and signs impact FAs (or trades) win more often than not. And, mind you, re-signing your own impact FAs is part of the equation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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