***Official JN Jay Cutler Talk - All Jay, All Day*** [Merged 49X]

[slats]

the ratliff thing is weird, starting to remind me of the Chad thing, which is perverse..

This grassroots Draft Ratliff campaign is one of the most bizarre things going on in here. I hope he's the greatest QB in Jet history, too, but the reality is that he threw a couple long passes to a wide open receiver in the preseason.

Uh... wow!

Cleveland makes sense with the extra QB. Perhaps a 3 way deal ?

I was about to post that there's no way that Cutler's coming to the Jets when you come up with this. Do the Jets and Mangini get a long well enough to make this work? Do the Browns prefer draft picks to Cutler? Are either of their QB's worth enough in a trade to get it done?

Eh, never mind. He ain't coming to the Jets.

[The Troll]

17-20 as a starter, 42 turnovers in 37 games

pass

Yes, after a little more than two seasons, he's 17-20 as a starter.

Care to look up Troy Aikman's record after two seasons? What about Jim Kelly?

Jay Cutler's second full season as a starter (21 GS in 1st two seasons): 4,526 yds, 25 TDs, 18 INT

"Mystery QB"'s second full season as a starter (24 GS in 1st two seasons): 3,891 yds, 22 TD, 23 INT

"Mystery QB" is John Elway.

But, by all means, Cutler is 3 games under .500 as a starter. Let's not trade for him because his defense blows. Maybe we can get Vince Young. He's a winner.

[JonEJet]

He's going to Cleveland

We all get to watch Mangini with a true #1 QB

Yippee

[Thai Jet]

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[Favorite_Toon]

He's going to Cleveland

We all get to watch Mangini with a true #1 QB

Yippee

Not too fast.... Look if you are the newyork jets.... you have to do EVERYTHING possibel to make this happen.... this years first round next years and clemons? No Fcking brainer!!!

First what are you going to do with kellen if cutler was here anyways? second who the fck are uy going to draft this year thats going to be better then jay cutler? and next years? Big deal...

As for ratliff fans.... Please.... already... if jay cutler is even remotely possible you have to do this!!

hes young and he can be there for the next 10 years.. at a position that we seemed to always have needed...plus with the new D... we might have something special...

I know for us jet fans that might be hard to believe because we are always let down...but I will pray for cutler to come to the jets....

[DLJ]

I agree... I would give our first this year and next years...

Isnt there a rule that says you cant trade 2 consecutive first round picks?

[Thai Jet]

I was about to post that there's no way that Cutler's coming to the Jets when you come up with this. Do the Jets and Mangini get a long well enough to make this work? Do the Browns prefer draft picks to Cutler? Are either of their QB's worth enough in a trade to get it done?

Eh, never mind. He ain't coming to the Jets.

Good question Slats. Business is still business. I'm figuring if Cleveland gets Cutler for Quinn they STILL have a PO'd QB on their roster. Try this scenario : Denver sends Cutler to Jets. Jets send #1 to Denver and next years #2 to Cleveland. Cleveland sends Quinn to Denver. I know Cutlers NOT coming here but it's fun to speculate ain't it ?

[Favorite_Toon]

Btw... I like kenny Britt and Hakeem nicks... Sanchez or josh freeman in the first.. Kenny Britt in the second..I go home happy from radio city

[Sperm Edwards]

http://cbs4.com/sports/cutler.nfl.broncos.2.960037.html

Mar 14, 2009 10:30 pm US/Eastern

Cutler Tells Broncos To Trade Him

DENVER (CBS) ―

CBS station KCNC-TV has learned that disgruntled Broncos quarterback Jay Cutler is no longer in Denver and is done negotiating with the team. Cutler will not be attending Monday's voluntary team workout. Sources tell KCNC-TV he has told the Broncos to trade him.

Cuter and his agent met face to face with the Broncos Saturday where no progress was made between the quarterback and his new head coach.

Cutler recently put his house on the market. We're told that the timing of the sale is merely coincidence. Cutler had been planning to sell the house for several months.

KCNC-TV has also learned that tight end Tony Scheffler intends on skipping tomorrow's voluntary session.

[Ghost]

I don't have a link yet but it's on ESPN right now.

[Ghost]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3983805

[lawngnome o-line]

Denver Broncos quarterback Jay Cutler said Sunday night that he will not report to the team's first meeting on Monday and has formally asked to be traded. He confirmed that a Saturday meeting with first-year coach Josh McDaniels ended badly from his perspective while McDaniels offered another viewpoint on Sunday night.

"I went in there with every intention of solving the issue, being a Bronco, moving forward as a Bronco," Cutler said. "We weren't in there but about 20 minutes, [McDaniels] did most of the talking and as far as I'm concerned, he made it clear he wants his own guy. He admitted he wanted Matt Cassel because he said he has raised him up from the ground as a quarterback. He said he wasn't sorry about it. He made it clear that he could still entertain trading me because, as he put it, he'll do whatever he feels is in the best interest of the organization.

Jay Cutler said while new Denver coach Josh McDaniels hasn't been critical of him, Cutler can no longer trust McDaniels.

"At the end of the meeting, he wasn't like, 'Jay, I want you as our quarterback, you're our guy.' It felt like the opposite. He basically said that I needed to tell him if we can't work this out, to let him know," Cutler added. "I thought he was antagonizing me and that was disappointing because I was ready to move on, committed as a Bronco. Really, I figured we'd hash things out, shake hands, laugh a little and move forward. What happened [saturday] was the last thing I expected. If I didn't think it could be fixed, I never would have come back to Denver. It was painfully obvious to me and Bus [Cook, his agent] it's not something they want to fix."

Consequently, Cutler instructed Cook, who also attended the meeting, to formally request a trade. The quarterback said he left town late Sunday and would skip McDaniels' first team meeting on Monday as they begin their offseason program.

Broncos owner Pat Bowlen told the Denver Post on Sunday that he was disappointed with how Cutler has handled the situation. In a telephone interview with ESPN, McDaniels was reluctantly expansive on the story.

"I really have wanted to avoid a he-said, she-said thing but it's only fair for us to present the Bronco side of the story rather than let things get taken out of context," McDaniels said. "There's been a pattern here for the past two weeks the way things [have been represented] in our communications. I don't think anythng that happened [saturday] was out of the ordinary. At the end of the meeting, Jay said he had thought about things quite a bit and requested a few more hours to mull things over. He said he wanted to talk to Bus on how to proceed. He was gonna call me on my cell phone and that never happened. Instead, Bus called [GM] Brian [Xanders].

"Again, I think that's been a pattern. I couldn't get [Cutler] to talk to me for two weeks or to talk to Mr. Bowlen. Then when he came here this weekend, we couldn't get a one-on-one meeting, just me and him alone. He wanted Bus in there, so I had Brian sit in, too. And it was the four of us. There wasn't any yelling, none of that. I can't believe we get to a totally different [interpretation].

"It's an unfortunate set of circumstances that has cropped up, a potential distraction and we've done our best to limit that. The main message I want to get out is that we're excited to start our offseason program [Monday]. It's an exciting time for us."

Cutler won't be present at the team meeting.

"I certainly went back there, expecting I'd be there [Monday] but not now," Cutler said. "It's not mandatory. I'll attend every mandatory mini-camp and training camp but that's it. Really, it's best for me to move on. As coach said, he needs every eye in the meeting room to be on him and not me."

As McDaniels pointed out, Cutler had a completely different expectation when he left their private meeting on Saturday.

Cutler said: "You know, even after the meeting, I hung around town, kind of expecting him to call me and say, 'Hey, let's just me and you get away and have lunch or a cup of coffee' and mend things, but that didn't happen. So, I get it, really, it's a business. I'm disappointed beause I love being a Bronco but I think it's run its course."

Cutler denied recent reports that he had asked to be traded when the Broncos fired offensive coordinator Jeremy Bates.

"Yes, I was upset when they let Jeremy go because Mr. Bowlen had assured me when Mike [shanahan] was fired that the offense wouldn't change because it was the second-ranked offense in football," Cutler said. "But I didn't push for a trade then."

McDaniels and Cutler agreed on at least one element of the controversy, knocking down a Sunday report on NFL Network that the coach had criticized the quarterback's play in 2008.

"That just isn't true," McDaniels said. "Not a word has been said about that."

Cutler added: "Josh has never said anything negative to me about my play or anything else, for that matter."

McDaniels admitted that the team got involved in trade discussions for Cassel, who instead was dealt to the Kansas City Chiefs. However, he said any perception Cutler felt that the team could still trade him was misleading.

"That's what we have communicated ever since the deal with Cassel didn't happen," McDaniels said. "Other teams have called but we're not interested in getting draft picks for Jay. I never made a statement [saturday] that 'you can be traded at any time.' They asked a question and I told them it was the time of year when people inquire about your team. Your job, as a head coach and general manager, is to listen and not bypass any opportunity to help your team improve. I think most people [in the NFL] feel the same way. You make smart, educated decisions that are best for your football team."

Cutler feels like McDaniels lost his credibility with him when he initially denied to the quarterback that the Broncos tried to acquire Cassel only to admit it later.

"Before this trade for Cassel thing ever came up, in the two weeks or so I had spent with McDaniels, he was basically telling me that he came to Denver because he wanted to coach me and that we needed to trust each other," Cutler said. "He's never been critical to me. But trust now? How can I trust him now?"

He also explained that his house being put up for sale was "nothing more than a coincidence."

"I had already shown my house privately to some interested buyers a couple of months ago," Cutler said. "I've really been looking to buy 40 to 70 acres of land there."

As for ignoring phone calls from McDaniels and Bowlen, Cutler said: "Josh and I have exchanged text messages. We had a conference call. And if Pat wanted to speak to me, why didn't he come to the meeting on Saturday?"

Cook said that as an agent he was "totally in shock" that it has gotten so ugly.

"I would have bet my house going into Saturday's meeting that everyone would be shaking hands and smiling," Cook said. "I thought it was going to get worked out. But it was very clear to me that Jay Cutler is not their choice to be quarterback of that team."

Yet Cook admitted that when he called Xanders to request a trade on Saturday night, the team's general manager said it wasn't going to happen and that "Jay should show up Monday."

That wasn't going to happen, either.

Chris Mortensen is a senior NFL analyst for ESPN.

[Sperm Edwards]

Broncos fans are freaking out. Some blame Cutler more; most blame McDaniels more. But all of them think the whole thing sucks. The only thing the team had going for them was their offense.

[Columbia Jet Fan]

Wow...and I didn't think any new coach could **** up more than Lane Kiffin before spring came....

[joebabyny]

Broncos fans are freaking out. Some blame Cutler more; most blame McDaniels more. But all of them think the whole thing sucks. The only thing the team had going for them was their offense.

Yeah, i am starting to lead more toward cutler being in the right here. This is a business and every player is always expendable in the name of making the team better, but when you have a franchise qb, he needs to know he is your guy. Trust is a two way street, and if the qb knows he doesn't have the coaches 100%, how can he trust the coach. Mcdaniels really screwed this one up good. If this were about money, you would have heard about it before the cassel fiasco.

[Sperm Edwards]

#17 and our #3 this year, rights to Brett Favre if they want him, Clemens or Ratliff or both, our #2 next year, and a hand job from Woody Johnson's buttery-soft palms.

And I bet they still wouldn't take it.

[124]

Broncos fans are freaking out. Some blame Cutler more; most blame McDaniels more. But all of them think the whole thing sucks. The only thing the team had going for them was their offense.

I would be pissed if I were in their shoes, thats for sure.

If I'm Mike Tannenbaum I'm on the phone with the Broncos right now asking what it would take to bring to Jay to New York. I don't care if its two first round picks, heck I don't care if its two first rounds and a conditional 3rd or 4th that could esculate to a third first round pick, you get it done. Not many chances EVER do you get to trade for a bright, young Top 10 QB who has the potential to be a Top 2 or 3.

[Columbia Jet Fan]

If they want a qb who has proven something in the nfl (like they believe Cassell did last year)....then we got no shot...

I would be willing to give up two firsts and clemens/ratliff/dewayne robertson's knee cartiledge to get this done...

Woody handjobs stay in house though

[hoping4ASuperBowl]

Mangini took 3 years before he pissed everyone off and we kicked him out the door. Looks like McDaniels is already a couple of years ahead of schedule.

[124]

[124]

Bring the Cutler****er to New York!

[Morrissey]

I'M JUMPING ON THIS BANDWAGON.

BRING CUTLER TO THE JETS!!!!!!!!!!!

[BroadwayJ667]

i don't get it why do you guy want a big baby on the Jets.

fine he's talented, but what has he won. in college, perrenial loser, in denver, never had a winning record.

and geez he has talent around him, so why do you want him?

[124]

i don't get it why do you guy want a big baby on the Jets.

fine he's talented, but what has he won. in college, perrenial loser, in denver, never had a winning record.

and geez he has talent around him, so why do you want him?

1. He played his college ball at Vanderbilt. Take a look at those teams. Find me an NFL QB who wins there. Maybe Peyton Manning could win 8 games. Maybe.

2. Denver has had zero defense and instability at the running back position, not to mention an aging and inconsistent Offensive line.

Oh, but yeah, he had T.O.2 (without as much talent) in Brandon Marshall and Eddie Royal -- FOR ONE SEASON. So he had great talent? Ugh. I really wish Royal hadn't lit up Hall on MNF Week 1, he is so freakin' over-rated. That game made his rookie season. He's good, but he isn't anything special.

[Bugeater]

*breathe*

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[The Troll]

Who would have ever thought it possible that we hired the right New England coordinator?

Mangini was horrible, but, wow, holy ****.

[Sperm Edwards]

If they want a qb who has proven something in the nfl (like they believe Cassell did last year)....then we got no shot...

I would be willing to give up two firsts and clemens/ratliff/dewayne robertson's knee cartiledge to get this done...

Woody handjobs stay in house though

Favre has proven something...

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Jets vs Vikings vs Bucs for James Bus Cook's top QB who wants to be traded, Part 2

[J pold]

I'm all for this! I've been a fan of Cutlers for some time.

[The Troll]

i don't get it why do you guy want a big baby on the Jets.

fine he's talented, but what has he won. in college, perrenial loser, in denver, never had a winning record.

and geez he has talent around him, so why do you want him?

Maybe if this were 1950 and Jay Cutler was the Broncos quarterback/safety/punter you'd have a valid point.

Because your point now is basically that it's Jay Cutler's fault that his defense sucked. The 4,500 yards and 25 TDs he threw while playing with 8th-string running backs are irrelevant. Because they lost. A REAL quarterback would have thrown for 8,000 yards and 50 TDs. And led the team in rushing too.

[Lurker]

I agree. The Broncos' problems were because they had no defense this past season.

Cutler is a good QB but I don't see any way we could get him.

[ECURB]

If they want a qb who has proven something in the nfl (like they believe Cassell did last year)....then we got no shot...

I would be willing to give up two firsts and clemens/ratliff/dewayne robertson's knee cartiledge to get this done...

Woody handjobs stay in house though

DId you read the article?

. He admitted he wanted Matt Cassel because he said he has raised him up from the ground as a quarterback.

[New York Mick]

I'm backing Cutler on this, if a coach said I don't want you on the team to me I would say to problem trade me and

I got news for you Mr. McDaniels, you haven't heard the last of me. You may think I'm **** now, but someday you're gonna be sorry you cut me. I'm gonna catch on somewhere else and every time that I play against you I'm gonna stick it up you're ****in' ass!

[DLJ]

If we can get him go for it, I hope Tanny is ont he phone with them.