124 Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 I would also like to point out that Schotty and Mangini had Clemens handcuffed like I have never seen before. There games plans were so retardedly vanilla and predictable that it was nearly impossible for him to succeed. I can remember watching those games and yelling at the TV for them to just let him air it out. He has this big arm and they refused to let him open things up. We had him throwing every short ****ty route in the book. Our coaching staff didnt nothing to help him out and make him feel comfortable. Stop posting facts and logical things, JiF. The Ratliff lovers want to hear none of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 Stop posting facts and logical things, JiF. The Ratliff lovers want to hear none of this. Shotty is still here and Rex wants to run first... dont look for it to get any better... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 I would also like to point out that Schotty and Mangini had Clemens handcuffed like I have never seen before. There games plans were so retardedly vanilla and predictable that it was nearly impossible for him to succeed. I can remember watching those games and yelling at the TV for them to just let him air it out. He has this big arm and they refused to let him open things up. We had him throwing every short ****ty route in the book. Our coaching staff didnt nothing to help him out and make him feel comfortable. I SEEN 'IM!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 Shotty is still here and Rex wants to run first... dont look for it to get any better... Doesn't mean they won't throw the ball down the field. Infact, if they want to be a run first team they HAVE to be able to throw the ball down the field to keep the defenders off the L.O.S. Ecurb, now that madmike is gone, are you stalking me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECURB Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 Doesn't mean they won't throw the ball down the field. Infact, if they want to be a run first team they HAVE to be able to throw the ball down the field to keep the defenders off the L.O.S. Ecurb, now that madmike is gone, are you stalking me? Don't look behind you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 Don't look behind you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiF Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 Shotty is still here and Rex wants to run first... dont look for it to get any better... Schotty is still here, this is true and I dont know how I feel about that. However, the fact that our run game is ridiculously better, only helps who ever we have back there. Remember, TJ only had 1 rushing TD that year. With that said, it might improve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 Jets keeping close eye on Denver Broncos quarterback Jay Cutler BY Rich Cimini DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER Monday, March 16th 2009, 12:47 PM Jay Cutler to the Jets? Never say never. The quarterback-needy Jets are keeping a close eye on the deteriorating Cutler situation in Denver, the Daily News has learned. GM Mike Tannenbaum is known for exploring all possibilities - see last season's Brett Favre shotgun wedding - and he's said to be monitoring the Cutler-Broncos soap opera. Whether that means he'll pick up the phone and make an inquiry is another story. At this point, it's difficult to gauge the Jets' level of interest. They may be performing due diligence in an attempt to avoid public criticism for the way they've been handling their quarterback situation. The decision to back unproven quarterbacks Kellen Clemens, Brett Ratliff and Erik Ainge has resulted in an outcry from fans and media, and the organization would take a huge hit if it made no effort to check out Cutler. Two weeks ago, the Jets had no interest in the strong-armed passer, a person familiar with the team's thinking told the Daily News. Could they have done a 180 in two weeks? It's possible, but at this point they don't appear to be in a rush to acquire Cutler. Cutler, feuding with new coach Josh McDaniels, has formally requested a trade and didn't show up Monday for the first day of McDaniels' offseason program. The Jets declined to comment on potential interest in Cutler. By rule, they can't comment because Cutler is under contract to the Broncos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 Jets keeping close eye on Denver Broncos quarterback Jay Cutler BY Rich Cimini DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER Monday, March 16th 2009, 12:47 PM Jay Cutler to the Jets? Never say never. The quarterback-needy Jets are keeping a close eye on the deteriorating Cutler situation in Denver, the Daily News has learned. GM Mike Tannenbaum is known for exploring all possibilities - see last season's Brett Favre shotgun wedding - and he's said to be monitoring the Cutler-Broncos soap opera. Whether that means he'll pick up the phone and make an inquiry is another story. At this point, it's difficult to gauge the Jets' level of interest. They may be performing due diligence in an attempt to avoid public criticism for the way they've been handling their quarterback situation. The decision to back unproven quarterbacks Kellen Clemens, Brett Ratliff and Erik Ainge has resulted in an outcry from fans and media, and the organization would take a huge hit if it made no effort to check out Cutler. Two weeks ago, the Jets had no interest in the strong-armed passer, a person familiar with the team's thinking told the Daily News. Could they have done a 180 in two weeks? It's possible, but at this point they don't appear to be in a rush to acquire Cutler. Cutler, feuding with new coach Josh McDaniels, has formally requested a trade and didn't show up Monday for the first day of McDaniels' offseason program. The Jets declined to comment on potential interest in Cutler. By rule, they can't comment because Cutler is under contract to the Broncos. Exactly...they cannot comment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 Jets keeping close eye on Denver Broncos quarterback Jay Cutler BY Rich Cimini DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER Monday, March 16th 2009, 12:47 PM Jay Cutler to the Jets? Never say never. The quarterback-needy Jets are keeping a close eye on the deteriorating Cutler situation in Denver, the Daily News has learned. GM Mike Tannenbaum is known for exploring all possibilities - see last season's Brett Favre shotgun wedding - and he's said to be monitoring the Cutler-Broncos soap opera. Whether that means he'll pick up the phone and make an inquiry is another story. At this point, it's difficult to gauge the Jets' level of interest. They may be performing due diligence in an attempt to avoid public criticism for the way they've been handling their quarterback situation. The decision to back unproven quarterbacks Kellen Clemens, Brett Ratliff and Erik Ainge has resulted in an outcry from fans and media, and the organization would take a huge hit if it made no effort to check out Cutler. Two weeks ago, the Jets had no interest in the strong-armed passer, a person familiar with the team's thinking told the Daily News. Could they have done a 180 in two weeks? It's possible, but at this point they don't appear to be in a rush to acquire Cutler. Cutler, feuding with new coach Josh McDaniels, has formally requested a trade and didn't show up Monday for the first day of McDaniels' offseason program. The Jets declined to comment on potential interest in Cutler. By rule, they can't comment because Cutler is under contract to the Broncos. This is good to hear. At least better than 'no interest in Jay Cutler'. I don't get the 'fan outcry'. Who's out-crying? All I've heard is how great Ratliff is going to be? And really, who should we be starting? Make a move for Warner and get him for 1 year? Kerry Collins? Jeff Garcia? No more stop-gaps as far as I'm concerned. Let these kids go at it... add a high round draft pick if you want... bring Cutler into the mix if you can... but under no circumstances do we need another veteran on his last legs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 tanny better be on the horn with this, it's not often a guy like Cutler comes available.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Babe Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 Jets keeping close eye on Denver Broncos quarterback Jay Cutler BY Rich Cimini DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER Monday, March 16th 2009, 12:47 PM Jay Cutler to the Jets? Never say never. The quarterback-needy Jets are keeping a close eye on the deteriorating Cutler situation in Denver, the Daily News has learned. GM Mike Tannenbaum is known for exploring all possibilities - see last season's Brett Favre shotgun wedding - and he's said to be monitoring the Cutler-Broncos soap opera. Whether that means he'll pick up the phone and make an inquiry is another story. At this point, it's difficult to gauge the Jets' level of interest. They may be performing due diligence in an attempt to avoid public criticism for the way they've been handling their quarterback situation. The decision to back unproven quarterbacks Kellen Clemens, Brett Ratliff and Erik Ainge has resulted in an outcry from fans and media, and the organization would take a huge hit if it made no effort to check out Cutler. Two weeks ago, the Jets had no interest in the strong-armed passer, a person familiar with the team's thinking told the Daily News. Could they have done a 180 in two weeks? It's possible, but at this point they don't appear to be in a rush to acquire Cutler. Cutler, feuding with new coach Josh McDaniels, has formally requested a trade and didn't show up Monday for the first day of McDaniels' offseason program. The Jets declined to comment on potential interest in Cutler. By rule, they can't comment because Cutler is under contract to the Broncos. I think that Cimini is the worst writer ever. He said nothing here...only that the Jets could "possibly" be looking at him, and they "might" have changed their minds from 2 weeks ago. He quoted no sources at all...he's just speculating. I can't stand Cimini... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 tanny better be on the horn with this, it's not often a guy like Cutler comes available.. Seriously. You have to atleast make an offer. Cutler is better than what we've got, and more than likely better than what we will get at 17. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 Cimini shows himself to be an idiot again. As EY noted, what outcry? Plus, what fans & media? Also, who gives a **** what the media says in this? They've proven to be a bunch of fools. Also, the 2 weeks ago thing is moronic. Two weeks ago there was barely a story on the Cutler front and he's obviously under contract. How are the Jets going to say 2 weeks ago that they're interested? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiF Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 This is good to hear. At least better than 'no interest in Jay Cutler'. I don't get the 'fan outcry'. Who's out-crying? All I've heard is how great Ratliff is going to be? And really, who should we be starting? Make a move for Warner and get him for 1 year? Kerry Collins? Jeff Garcia? No more stop-gaps as far as I'm concerned. Let these kids go at it... add a high round draft pick if you want... bring Cutler into the mix if you can... but under no circumstances do we need another veteran on his last legs. Agreed. As much as I have my reservation about Cutler, we must pursue him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 tanny better be on the horn with this, it's not often a guy like Cutler comes available.. Right now? I think that's premature. Cutler is not yet available. The Jets need the Broncos to be in a position of weakness, and they're not there yet until they say, yes, we're shopping him. We've gone from a unique trade situation to cutler grumbling to McDaniels making the situation worse. We're still not at the point where the Broncos will trade him. I definately think Tanny needs to be in the loop on this, but he can't play his hand too early because he does not have the quality asset beside draft picks to entice Denver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJ667 Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 I think that Cimini is the worst writer ever. He said nothing here...only that the Jets could "possibly" be looking at him, and they "might" have changed their minds from 2 weeks ago. He quoted no sources at all...he's just speculating. I can't stand Cimini... JetsBabe i'm not defending him in any way, just curious, how would you write the article better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 Right now? I think that's premature. Cutler is not yet available. The Jets need the Broncos to be in a position of weakness, and they're not there yet until they say, yes, we're shopping him. We've gone from a unique trade situation to cutler grumbling to McDaniels making the situation worse. We're still not at the point where the Broncos will trade him. I definately think Tanny needs to be in the loop on this, but he can't play his hand too early because he does not have the quality asset beside draft picks to entice Denver. they will trade him....i am 100% sure about that.... Joshie is an arrogant idiot who made things worse...he will be gone before draft day....Jets need to put together a big offer and end the suspense. Mangini has the ammo to get cutler, will he? he passed him up once and was known to like Leinart better than JC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leonwash29 Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 sorry if its been posted already but The Jets have reportedly begun monitoring Jay Cutler's situation in Denver. New York has claimed confidence in Brett Ratliff and Kellen Clemens since Rex Ryan's hiring, but would "never say never" to a player of Cutler's caliber. The Jets probably would need a three-team trade with a club like the Lions or Eagles to get Cutler. Gang Green doesn't have enough ammo as it stands. Source: Newark Star-Ledger rotoworld Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 Right now? I think that's premature. Cutler is not yet available. The Jets need the Broncos to be in a position of weakness, and they're not there yet until they say, yes, we're shopping him. We've gone from a unique trade situation to cutler grumbling to McDaniels making the situation worse. We're still not at the point where the Broncos will trade him. I definately think Tanny needs to be in the loop on this, but he can't play his hand too early because he does not have the quality asset beside draft picks to entice Denver. Yes now. You don't play games when something like this occurs.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 sorry if its been posted already but The Jets have reportedly begun monitoring Jay Cutler's situation in Denver. New York has claimed confidence in Brett Ratliff and Kellen Clemens since Rex Ryan's hiring, but would "never say never" to a player of Cutler's caliber. The Jets probably would need a three-team trade with a club like the Lions or Eagles to get Cutler. Gang Green doesn't have enough ammo as it stands. Source: Newark Star-Ledger rotoworld here we go Mcnabb to Denver and jets 3rd rd pick next year Cutler to Jets iggles gets jets #1 and #2nd rd next year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Jet Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 I can't believe what McDaniels is doing here. I never liked Cutler but I'd love to have him here, The Jets need to do whatever they can to get him. A franchise QB like that does not come around often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amuck Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 NO WAY 2 PICKS FOR CUTLER. next year is rich in QB talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiF Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 NO WAY 2 PICKS FOR CUTLER. next year is rich in QB talent. Really? Who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 Yes now. You don't play games when something like this occurs.. The problem is "this" hasn't happened yet. It's no different than Ocho Cinco and Boldin last year and they weren't traded although they insisted on being traded. I'm not saying Cutler will definately remain with Denver. There is a real possibility he'll be traded. But according to multiple reports, Bowlen doesn't want to trade Cutler. He says he's dissapointed in how this is going on, but he doesn't want to give up Cutler yet. I believe that McIdiot wants to trade Cutler, but it's ultimately up to Bowlen to make the move. If the Jets are "monitoring," it likely means they are waiting for Bowlen to flip. Once he flips the Jets have to become active. Right now with Bowlen against the trade Tanny will simply ruin his negotiation position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 they will trade him....i am 100% sure about that.... Joshie is an arrogant idiot who made things worse...he will be gone before draft day....Jets need to put together a big offer and end the suspense. Mangini has the ammo to get cutler, will he? he passed him up once and was known to like Leinart better than JC. There's a strong chance that that happens. But Cutler is not available until Bowlen says he is. That hasn't happened yet. Plus, as you noted, the Browns and likely other teams could put together a better package. Thus, if the Jets act eager now they may ruin their negotiation position and make it easer for the Browns to get him. By the way, I also think working Bus Cooke is part of the process. Tanny will likely be in contact with Cooke and get Cutler on board with the possibility with coming to the Jets. Without the Jets having the best possible trade package, they need Cutler & Cooke to be pro-Jet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aec4 Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 NO WAY 2 PICKS FOR CUTLER. next year is rich in QB talent. Cutler = Guaranteed to be good Any draft pick = Crapshoot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 From Yahoo sports: ENGLEWOOD, Colo. (AP) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 There's a strong chance that that happens. But Cutler is not available until Bowlen says he is. That hasn't happened yet. Plus, as you noted, the Browns and likely other teams could put together a better package. Thus, if the Jets act eager now they may ruin their negotiation position and make it easer for the Browns to get him. By the way, I also think working Bus Cooke is part of the process. Tanny will likely be in contact with Cooke and get Cutler on board with the possibility with coming to the Jets. Without the Jets having the best possible trade package, they need Cutler & Cooke to be pro-Jet. he can make more $ in NY on endorsements than Cleve at some point woody should call bowlen and get things done EM doesn't have to mortgage the farm on JC, he has Quinn so he does not have to overpay....we do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aec4 Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 he can make more $ in NY on endorsements than Cleve at some point woody should call bowlen and get things done EM doesn't have to mortgage the farm on JC, he has Quinn so he does not have to overpay....we do The money that he can make in NYC has nothing to do with this. All, and I mean ALL the power is held by Denver. They have him under contract for 3 years. Cutler can hold out, and then he'll NEVER get out of Denver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 The problem is "this" hasn't happened yet. It's no different than Ocho Cinco and Boldin last year and they weren't traded although they insisted on being traded. I'm not saying Cutler will definately remain with Denver. There is a real possibility he'll be traded. But according to multiple reports, Bowlen doesn't want to trade Cutler. He says he's dissapointed in how this is going on, but he doesn't want to give up Cutler yet. I believe that McIdiot wants to trade Cutler, but it's ultimately up to Bowlen to make the move. If the Jets are "monitoring," it likely means they are waiting for Bowlen to flip. Once he flips the Jets have to become active. Right now with Bowlen against the trade Tanny will simply ruin his negotiation position. i don't think the owner is ever going to say "we are shopping him" the jets or another team will have to call and find out what it'll take.. the broncos will then sell as being blown away by an offer.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 The money that he can make in NYC has nothing to do with this. All, and I mean ALL the power is held by Denver. They have him under contract for 3 years. Cutler can hold out, and then he'll NEVER get out of Denver. for wanting to play in NY over Cleve.... His Agent can say, he wants no part of Cleve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNJet Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 Yes because 90% of the anti-Cutler are pro-Ratliff. agree. Im Clemens all the way. He could be just as good or better than Cutler behind our good oline,we just have to see... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Favorite_Toon Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 ARE YOU FCKING KIDDING ME?? cmone now... better then cutler.... suuuuuure... the org has been watching kellen for some time...they know hes not great..he couldnt even beat pennington out of a job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Babe Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 JetsBabe i'm not defending him in any way, just curious, how would you write the article better? That's the thing, I wouldn't. It's a non-story. He's just speculating. He's the Perez Hilton of football journalists. The article made it seem like he had some late-breaking news info from a source. Boland is the best Jets writer.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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